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BattleMaster => Locals => Dwilight => Topic started by: JPierreD on June 05, 2011, 01:21:26 AM

Title: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: JPierreD on June 05, 2011, 01:21:26 AM
What are the religions that are actually alive and kicking? Besides SA, of course.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Indirik on June 05, 2011, 02:52:59 AM
Offhand, I can mention three:

Verdis Elementum: active in Caerwyn, Terran, and D'Hara.
Triunism: Active in Terran
Manifest Path: Active in  Luria Nova (and Pian en Luries?)

There was a branch of Estianism in Madina, but I don't know if it is still around. I heard it was mostly defunct.
There was the Order of St. Iestyn in Pian en Luries, but I think it fell apart after the recent secession that formed Luria Nova.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Bedwyr on June 05, 2011, 04:17:15 AM
Eleryonism is still alive in the Lurian area (and possibly elsewhere, I don't know), but it's future is uncertain.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: inykane on June 05, 2011, 07:32:10 AM
Yes, Eleryonism is indeed alive with its modest but steady number of members. There are temples currently in Caerwyn and Pian en Luries.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Galvez on June 05, 2011, 06:52:07 PM
There are temples currently in Caerwyn and Pian en Luries.
That sounds.. well.. illogical.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Sacha on June 05, 2011, 09:53:32 PM
Eleryonism is still alive in the Lurian area (and possibly elsewhere, I don't know), but it's future is uncertain.

Well, 'alive' in the sense that someone on life support is alive. At least the Lurian branch is.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Vellos on June 06, 2011, 03:24:02 AM
Verdis Elementum: active in Caerwyn, Terran, and D'Hara.


Terran? Really?
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Chenier on June 06, 2011, 04:44:22 AM
Terran? Really?

Either he means Barca, or he means follower bleed, in which case Triunism is active in D'Hara (stupid code makes the religion without a temple naturally replace the religion with a big friggin temple in Paisland).
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Indirik on June 06, 2011, 12:07:39 PM
Meh,... All you non-SA pagans blend together after a while. :)
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: vonGenf on June 06, 2011, 12:18:43 PM
Either he means Barca, or he means follower bleed, in which case Triunism is active in D'Hara (stupid code makes the religion without a temple naturally replace the religion with a big friggin temple in Paisland).

That's why you need to expand! Any temple within 1'000 miles of another temple is not safe. To arms!
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: JPierreD on June 06, 2011, 02:07:27 PM
Interesting. What about State Religions?
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: vonGenf on June 06, 2011, 03:11:32 PM
Interesting. What about State Religions?

Morek, Corsanctum and Astrum are theocracies of SA. All others state are secular, although many of them have one very dominant religion.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Adriddae on June 06, 2011, 05:31:50 PM
Cordatus Bestiarium was just created in Asylon.


http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Igelfeld_Family/_The_Awakening
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Galvez on June 06, 2011, 07:56:21 PM
Demon worship. I guess that does not make you popular amongst other humans.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on June 06, 2011, 07:57:34 PM
Does daimon = demon/daemon?

That remains an intriguing question for some of us.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Galvez on June 06, 2011, 08:42:35 PM
Daemon is British and demon American?  :-\ Don't know for sure. English isn't my motherlanguage.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on June 06, 2011, 08:57:23 PM
That's not what is disputed, as it is quite common that those are two variations of the same concept of Judeo-Christian d(a)emons. However, daimon might or might not be a different case, and it isn't just a spelling choice. In BM, both daimon and daemon are used, seemingly as distinct entities. However, it could be that the distinctions are not as significant as one might think. Who knows. What is a d(a)emon anyway? Pop culture has distorted them a lot from their origins. Furthermore, are we talking about the most commonly known Western Judeo-Christian versions, or the East Asian versions, or African, or Native American, or the many cultures of the globe, most, if not all, of which had some concept of "d(a)emons"? And finally, how do those relate, if at all, to daimons?
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Darksun on June 06, 2011, 10:35:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(classical_mythology)

Daimon and Daemon are from the same root Greek. According to the article, they are typically good or benevolent.

Demons, on the other hand are typically quite evil.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Galvez on June 06, 2011, 11:18:34 PM
"The words daemon and daimon are Latinized spellings of the Greek δαίμων (daimôn), a reference to the daemons of Ancient Greek religion and mythology, Hellenistic religion and philosophy.[1] Daemons are good or benevolent "supernatural beings between mortals and gods, such as inferior divinities and ghosts of dead heroes" (see Plato's Symposium), and differ from the Judeo-Christian usage of demon, a malignant spirit that can seduce, afflict, or possess humans."

What kind do we have on Dwilight? The daemon/daimon or the demon?  ??? I know I'm getting confused.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on June 06, 2011, 11:34:06 PM
Whatever the GM says it is, if he says anything at all about it. You could also ask my dude in-game, but he'll probably be pretty vague about it.
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Chenier on June 06, 2011, 11:47:38 PM
Interesting. What about State Religions?

Dragon Worship in D'Hara's royalty. But all the power was handed down from the royal court to the House of Lords, and nobody outside of the royal court still follows the faith.

(read: the faith died, and all the ones who claimed themselves Dragon Kings or Dragon Queens are long auto-paused, but the republican regime decided not to cut all ties with the past)
Title: Re: Religions in Dwilight
Post by: Hossenfeffer on June 08, 2011, 07:11:27 PM
Daemon and daimon are both transliterations of Greek.  They basically mean 'spiritual messenger', but divinity back then didn't always come with a smile. 

Demon is from the same Greek root, but is a later Christian transliteration with added 'evil!'.