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BattleMaster => Helpline => Topic started by: Antonine on June 06, 2011, 02:21:21 AM
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In Thalmarkin we recently had an unusual situation.
A candidate running for general was banned in the middle of the election for an unrelated reason. However, the judge was then protested out of office. The ban remained in place and the candidate in question won the election. However, the ban was due to come into effect one turn after the candidate had been elected. When the turn came the noble remained in the realm and, according to the player, the ban ticker disappeared. But the ban still remains on his family's page and has never been lifted. A new judge has not yet been elected.
So is this a bug or is it something else?
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Sure seems that way. So far as I know the ban should have been applied, but it seems to have only been half applied. That is it was applied to the characters history, but not actually carried out within the realm.
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That's probably because the new General's Council immunity prevented the ban from being implemented, but the ban was spoken and I don't know of any means where things are ever removed from family histories.
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I wonder what will happen if he dont get elected next month? Will ban take effect or does it go totally null?
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Well it sounds to me like the game needs a tie breaker here then. It should either be that the ban prevents him from running in elections or that a message pops up saying that the ban has been lifted due to his immunity as a council member.
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I'm inclined to make it the former. He may not have been sent rogue before the election ended, but the ban did go into effect in all other ways before then, preventing him from recruiting, cashing bonds, or rebelling. I don't see any reason why people who have been banned should be able to run for office.
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Well yeah, that would be my instinct as well. I suppose the alternative otherwise would be for players to couple exiling with a ban in order to try and keep them from running.
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How many times do I have to say it?
Once someone is exiled, they cannot be banned!
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Sorry Delvin - I wasn't aware of that. Probably because it's not mentioned on the ban page on the wiki.
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Sorry Delvin - I wasn't aware of that. Probably because it's not mentioned on the ban page on the wiki.
Seems to me it ought to be on the Exile page.
...Which seems not to exist. Hm.
Wanna create it, while I fix some more bugs? ;D
(Yes, typical dev, I hate writing documentation ;) )
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Wiki page added.
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Wiki page added.
Huzzah!
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Seems to me it ought to be on the Exile page.
...Which seems not to exist. Hm.
Wanna create it, while I fix some more bugs? ;D
(Yes, typical dev, I hate writing documentation ;) )
I love writing documentation! For other people. :P
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I'm the current Judge of Thalmarkin. The Grand Marshal in this discussion still shows that he has an active ban from my predecessor. Just out of curiosity we're going to leave it in place to see what happens if he ever steps down or gets voted out.
On a related note, has anybody run into the situation where a knight has been awarded enough good marks to gain immunity from all punishment, and his Lord is a council member, who is also immune? There seems to be no recourse as a judge to punish either the deserving party or to pass on the fine to his Lord. Essentially this means that the knights of council members who are also region lords can run amok with impunity provided they have enough good marks to protect them. This has caused a problem twice in our realm and it seems like a broken mechanic as it renders the judge powerless against a certain group of nobles who aren't even on the ruling council.
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Try to protest the council lord out? If you can't manage that, then you might be on the wrong side of the conflict. If you're not, then sucks for you to have made that guy lord and council member.
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What sucks is other realm members protest me for not punishing them even though I'm powerless to do so.
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What sucks is other realm members protest me for not punishing them even though I'm powerless to do so.
Haha. I think there's nobody in Thalmarkin eager to be in Pyrix' shoes. Except for Seko Sepi, of course; painfully obvious.
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I'm still trying to work out whether Pyrix is the enemy or not.
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Ohh man, Thalmarkin... Only place where a lady who lead monsters prominently (Annaej), AND a failure who tried and was rejected by the daimons and then the Light (Forgot the first name, Octavius), can gain council positions.
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Mwhaha... Seko Sepi will haunt Pyrix for his ill words towards him and his family...
;)
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Haha. I think there's nobody in Thalmarkin eager to be in Pyrix' shoes. Except for Seko Sepi, of course; painfully obvious.
Haha, indeed. :)
Anyway, I'm working on a solution that will hopefully see the light of day soon... :)
Oh and yes Artemesia (though dunno about Immanuel), but also the only realm that survived the invasion without capitulating or allying with sorcerers or beasts, victory (or well, survival) purely by merit of steel and mind. Anyway, to explain: we're a pretty open realm and it's not that hard to gain a position if you want it, though all that openness has resulted in kind of a shortage of positions at the moment... :p
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And ever increasing radicalisation, as well as Medieval Trolls.
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According to the GM for the Undead, the Thalmarkin result went apparently according to his "masterful plan". I shall do some creative invention of facts and say that Unger was infiltrated to be the new nexus of the Undead.
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Yeah, I've thought about that... :p I guess it would kinda suck, being the duke and all, but on the other hand: epic start of the invasion :P
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Ohh man, Thalmarkin... Only place where a lady who lead monsters prominently (Annaej), AND a failure who tried and was rejected by the daimons and then the Light (Forgot the first name, Octavius), can gain council positions.
For your information, Immanuel wasn't rejected by the daimons - there was a bug which prevented him from declaring fealty to them. Secondly, he wasn't rejected by the light - he decided that it wasn't worth giving his life for it.
So seriously, stop acting like a dick and quit talking as though you know about things when you don't.
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My my, you're one to talk, huh? 8)
So seriously, stop acting like a dick and quit talking as though you know about things when you don't.
So funny, when we consider what Antonine wrote in the Zuma thread.
You were rejected by the daimons. You were quite intentionally unable to "swear fealty", and yes, indeed, the daimons had no need for someone as useless and unskilled as Immanuel (Thanks for the first name, Lorgan). The Light? Meh, whatever you say on that subject.
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Stop trolling already. Seen plenty of that in Thalmarkin :o
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So funny, when we consider what Antonine wrote in the Zuma thread.
What, you mean accurate and factual? I'm not the one acting like a troll here so why don't you be quiet, acquire some manners, and go and bother somebody else.
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Still thinking you were right about the Zuma, I see.
But anyway, time to get back on topic. You really shouldn't be so sensitive about your characters being made fun of. They're just characters in a game, and this is an OOC forum that should have absolutely no effect on those characters.
This all said, I still think Thalmarkin is the second suckiest realm to be in on BT. Last? Nothoi. And yes, I know I play there...Guess why I say it's last place?
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And yes, I know I play there...Guess why I say it's last place?
Because you play there? 8) >:(
;)