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Title: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Zakilevo on June 08, 2015, 09:12:40 AM
Morek is officially not an empire anymore. Well only in name pretty much.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: GundamMerc on June 08, 2015, 04:24:07 PM
So it's exactly like the Holy Roman Empire. :3
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Ossan on June 09, 2015, 02:31:00 AM
I knew that Urtagoth guy was only trouble.

I'm still honestly not even sure what the point behind this was. but let's start some new FUN!, no Homers or lurians allowed.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Zakilevo on June 09, 2015, 03:12:23 AM
I knew that Urtagoth guy was only trouble.

I'm still honestly not even sure what the point behind this was. but let's start some new FUN!, no Homers or lurians allowed.

Indeed. Eviera was right about him. Urtagoth was never loyal to Morek to begin with. He is only loyal to his ideals - freedom, chaos, and war.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Sypher on June 09, 2015, 03:27:41 AM
I knew that Urtagoth guy was only trouble.

I'm still honestly not even sure what the point behind this was. but let's start some new FUN!, no Homers or lurians allowed.

No Lurians allowed ? But we want in on the fun...  :(
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Ossan on June 09, 2015, 03:48:20 AM
No Lurians allowed ? But we want in on the fun...  :(
You're hogging more than your fair share down south with Fissoa and D'hara.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: De-Legro on June 09, 2015, 03:53:29 AM
You're hogging more than your fair share down south with Fissoa and D'hara.

Not sure anyone is finding much fun in that, we except for me laughing that I finally seem to have gotten my way and convinced people to abandon Fissoa.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Sypher on June 09, 2015, 04:03:37 AM
Did Urtagoth make every Townsland and City in Morek into different duchies?

Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Zakilevo on June 09, 2015, 04:06:18 AM
Did Urtagoth make every Townsland and City in Morek into different duchies?
Yes.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: GundamMerc on June 09, 2015, 04:18:08 AM
Yes.

I can only imagine the bureaucratic nightmare it's become IC. :3
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Ossan on June 09, 2015, 06:46:21 AM
Probably a very quiet one with the game yelling at us more than people are talking.

Also lol someone put a 50g bounty on Urtagoth!

Not sure anyone is finding much fun in that, we except for me laughing that I finally seem to have gotten my way and convinced people to abandon Fissoa.
Oh? The only news I get is region take overs and battles.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: De-Legro on June 09, 2015, 07:07:32 AM
Probably a very quiet one with the game yelling at us more than people are talking.

Also lol someone put a 50g bounty on Urtagoth!
Oh? The only news I get is region take overs and battles.

Yes the slow death of Fissoa, which is not so slow now that D'Hara isn't help defend them. But then there are only so many times you can act as the meat shield for your ally before starting to think you are being used.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Constantine on June 09, 2015, 09:30:56 AM
If you're not playing you character in an ooc thread right now and these are your actual thoughts as a person, you have no idea of how military alliances work and what they are for.  ;)
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: De-Legro on June 09, 2015, 11:59:24 AM
If you're not playing you character in an ooc thread right now and these are your actual thoughts as a person, you have no idea of how military alliances work and what they are for.  ;)

works for which side though? Any alliance is only good so long as it continues to bring benefit. How benefit is define obviously varies greatly depending on situation, but in this case the benefit for D'Hara as long since shrunk in comparison to the cost to maintain it.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Constantine on June 09, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
On the contrary, supporting Fissoa in these last weeks was more important for D'Hara than it ever had been before.
Failing to do so and letting Fissoa fall on its own is very bad news for D'Hara if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: De-Legro on June 09, 2015, 12:40:11 PM
On the contrary, supporting Fissoa in these last weeks was more important for D'Hara than it ever had been before.
Failing to do so and letting Fissoa fall on its own is very bad news for D'Hara if you know what I mean.

That a) assumes the help we could provide would prevent Fissoa's death
        b) assumes we didn't know that Fissoa is seeking peace with Luria independent of the alliance
        c) assumes that D'Hara hasn't been working on a strategy for the eventual demise of Fissoa.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Fleugs on June 09, 2015, 01:01:35 PM
With Morek's demise the North looks a lot more interesting. As a Lurian I enjoy the dismantling of the League in such a chaotic matter, too.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Constantine on June 09, 2015, 01:03:52 PM
a) It actually could. We wouldn't lose Fissoa Fields and a few other regions if we had just 10k more CS.
b) Confusing cause and effect here, not sure if on purpose. D'Haran betrayal basically pushed some nobles to seek separate peace. Still it is not a prevalent sentiment.
c) Okay. That should have been point a) and there was no real need in other ones, you Machiavellian jerks. :P
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: De-Legro on June 09, 2015, 01:10:53 PM
a) It actually could. We wouldn't lose Fissoa Fields and a few other regions if we had just 10k more CS.
b) Confusing cause and effect here, not sure if on purpose. D'Haran betrayal basically pushed some nobles to seek separate peace. Still it is not a prevalent sentiment.
c) Okay. That should have been point a) and there was no real need in other ones, you Machiavellian jerks. :P

And last time we sent 10k of extra CS, we moved when Fissoa told us do, only to find they didn't. Like I said it assumes we could have prevented Fissoa's demise. Even if we prevented this assault, D'Hara can not refit fast enough to continually protect you from Luria, and Fissoa  has shown no signs of adequate recovery of their own military power.

As for B, your King instructed us several battles ago NOT to push into Lurian territory because he was hopeful of Luria entering a ceasefire agreement once they reclaimed their lands. Fissoa has been skirting with peace with Luria in several incarnations for some time now, the most recent is simply their most desperate and thus most likely to yield a result.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Constantine on June 09, 2015, 01:19:38 PM
And last time we sent 10k of extra CS, we moved when Fissoa told us do, only to find they didn't. Like I said it assumes we could have prevented Fissoa's demise. Even if we prevented this assault, D'Hara can not refit fast enough to continually protect you from Luria, and Fissoa  has shown no signs of adequate recovery of their own military power.
Oh, that's not really true. D'Hara moved a bit earlier than they should have.
And yes, we pretty much recovered our strength by now to the level when we could match the Lurian host with some extra help.
As for B, your King instructed us several battles ago NOT to push into Lurian territory because he was hopeful of Luria entering a ceasefire agreement once they reclaimed their lands. Fissoa has been skirting with peace with Luria in several incarnations for some time now, the most recent is simply their most desperate and thus most likely to yield a result.
Oh, come on. That was like half a year ago when a massive chunk of our core player quit the game and we just needed a breather. That ceasefire was null and void in like two weeks after that and there were no plans for new ones.

So yeah... Nice try at anti-Fissoan propaganda.
Jesus, this all sounds so familiar. It's like I'm watching telly. :D
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: De-Legro on June 09, 2015, 02:07:06 PM
Oh, that's not really true. D'Hara moved a bit earlier than they should have.
And yes, we pretty much recovered our strength by now to the level when we could match the Lurian host with some extra help.Oh, come on. That was like half a year ago when a massive chunk of our core player quit the game and we just needed a breather. That ceasefire was null and void in like two weeks after that and there were no plans for new ones.

So yeah... Nice try at anti-Fissoan propaganda.
Jesus, this all sounds so familiar. It's like I'm watching telly. :D

So far as D'Hara was told there never was ceasefire agreed, this was much more recently then half a year ago, since it was 2 expeditions before our last one. We had only just started to internally discuss that the King was kidding himself to believe Luria would honour any ceasefire even if they did offer one, when we were again called upon for aid. Perhaps you simply are not as well informed as you would like to believe about the messages between the realms. Our current PM nicely posts a good deal of the rulers chat for us, and our last general for all his faults was very good about posting info from other generals.

Fissoa so far as I can see can match Luria with help, only with the aid of walls. Given the travel time for D'Hara, the likelyhood that we will receive a plea for help, mobilise and arrive in time to defend walled regions with anything close to consistency is a fantasy.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Shizzle on June 09, 2015, 11:53:08 PM
the King was kidding himself

 ::)
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Constantine on June 21, 2015, 03:50:20 AM
Long time no news from Morek. Are you people falling asleep again?  :P
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Indirik on June 21, 2015, 10:36:20 PM
Well, there are only, like, three of us left in Morek. Did you really think there would be lots of news?

I think that new northern realm (Arnor?) wants to attack us. And that Helwyg place has a demanded we give them some land.
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: GundamMerc on June 23, 2015, 07:01:17 PM
Let the chaos begin. :3
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on June 24, 2015, 04:04:02 AM
Let slip the dogs of war...  8)
Title: Re: End of Morek Empire
Post by: Ossan on June 24, 2015, 06:28:06 AM
brb repairing from 99% damage.