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BattleMaster => Locals => South Island => Topic started by: Zakilevo on August 05, 2015, 02:57:06 PM
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Looks like Sandalak is crumbling rather quickly. Losing too many heroes seem to actually take a toll on them :)
Sandalak had a chance I think. I am surprised Sandalak is putting more pressure on us than Taselak. It is not like Sandalak can do much against us :o
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It's almost as if unilaterally blowing up your agreement with them somehow offended them!
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Whodathunkit?
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Yeah, Ikalak offended Sandalak, now be prepare to die! ;)
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Ha. You Sandies couldn't even fight your way past Taselak. What makes you think you can beat us Ikkies? ;)
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Because Ikkies can't fight their way past a garden party :P
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Ha. You Sandies couldn't even fight your way past Taselak. What makes you think you can beat us Ikkies? ;)
Yeah, sad :(
But is that all the force?
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Are you very very very sure? ::)
Sometimes the only way to win is to lose.
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What is this Dwarf Fortress?
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I guess Sandalak suffered from early winner syndrome, leading directly into secondary loser syndrome :p
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I guess Sandalak suffered from early winner syndrome, leading directly into secondary loser syndrome :p
That is silly, they weren't winning early on Taselak was.
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Don't worry, the cycle will just repeat itself once everyone gets to Sandalak and it's their turn to raise the people's militia of doom. Then whoever suffers the most knights killed and has their army beaten to a pulp will be the next punching bag for the island, which will probably be Ikalak since that's how the island started.
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Are people who have lost heros just not remade a character or something in Sandalak/Ikalak?
Because you can do that, or is that a special Taselakian power? :p
But yeah I do expect the tides to turn again, I am biased of course (though I was totally ready for Taselak to have lost) but I really like how the tides have turned around once again and it's back to a three way fight.
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I figured remaking a character in Sandalak would be cheap. I thought I'd have some losing in Ikalak. But now it seems Sandalak is falling apart.
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and it's back to a three way fight.
No it isn't. It never was. Right at the start Sandalak was preparing for a three way fight only to find themselves getting attacked by all of Taselak and Ikalak and being in disarray but we rallied. De ja vu.
A lot of people did send their next characters to Sandalak after their previous ones died. I'm on my third character in Sandalak, some people have some loyalty. I think it's just the population of the island overall is decreasing.
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I'd prefer having an island that would reset every 12 months or so to give some feeling of refreshment.
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I say it again, a war island with three realms is always going to be a 2v1 until it gets down to two realms. And we've seen how long a 'defeated' realm can hold out... this war is going to go on forever like this. So why not be smart and cut away the third realm right away? Simply turn Ikalak City into another stronghold, or just chop the top off the island, remove them as a realm, and you can have yourself a proper showdown. I'm sure that offends a lot of people, but c'est la vie, n'est-ce pas?
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Previous war islands lasted for a couple years. There's no reason to expect that this one might not.
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No it isn't. It never was. Right at the start Sandalak was preparing for a three way fight only to find themselves getting attacked by all of Taselak and Ikalak and being in disarray but we rallied. De ja vu.
A lot of people did send their next characters to Sandalak after their previous ones died. I'm on my third character in Sandalak, some people have some loyalty. I think it's just the population of the island overall is decreasing.
Except it was Sandelak and Ikalak attacking Taselak...
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That was round 3. Round 1 was a general free for all. Round 2 was Ikalak and Taselak v. Sandalak. We didnt get to I & S v. T until after Sandalak almost got killed.
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Round 1: Free for all, but ended up with both Taselak being within a region away from Ikalak's capital and Sandalak also being on their very doorstep. This round ended when both Sandalak and Taselak agreed to a ceasefire with Ikalak to let them recover from their poor start.
Round 2: Taselak vs. Sandalak, since Ikalak was just sitting within it's own regions fighting with itself. This round consisted of the heavy fighting around the CoG, Moeth, and eventually led to Taselak takingover Fali for a few days and seemed like it would lead to an eventual siege of Sandalak. This round ended when Ikalak entered the fray again and began to capture Taselak's northern gains
Round 3: Taselak vs Sandalak + Ikalak. We all know how this one worked, Taselak fought but was eventually reduced to having just the capital and one outlying region and was besieged 3 times, however the people's militia turned the entire situation around by repelling the invasions and killing a large number of Sandalak and Ikalak's knights. Ended when Ikalak broke it's treaty with Sandalak and began to fight them instead
Round 4(Current): Taselak + Ikalak vs. Sandalak. Taselak rebounded and regained a few more of it's southern regions, a lot of fighting between the Sandies and Ikies. Who knows what will happen next.
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Previous war islands lasted for a couple years. There's no reason to expect that this one might not.
AFAIK only one war was ever properly concluded, when Sandalak destroyed Ikalak and then Taselak. The war after that was ongoing when the island was sunk, though you could argue that Taselak was going to win it.
I can't speak for the SWI as I never played there, but I can't recall having heard of any winners there. It was mostly just a cash farm anyhow.
That was round 3. Round 1 was a general free for all. Round 2 was Ikalak and Taselak v. Sandalak. We didnt get to I & S v. T until after Sandalak almost got killed.
That cycle is going to repeat itself, me thinks. If Sandalak is pushed back far enough, I have little doubt that Ikalak will turn on Taselak again.
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I don't recall exactly what happened because it was several years ago now, but Taselak was pretty declared the victor. I'm not sure exactly what Ikalak was doing or if it was because we were "frozen" in place and unable to move, but we had time to get so bored we started a rebellion (complete with humourous RPing, it was all one big joke) with a big chunk of us in Sandalak. My hero died in that battle.
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DeVerci: Ikalak did indeed go after some of Sandalak's back regions, and some former Ikalak lords defected back to Ikalak. If it had been just Sandalak v Taselak, it would have been a pretty close battle. My character spent quite some time trying to convince Ikalak to switch sides.
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Sandalak didn't have enough quality RCs for such a long time. Eventually when Sandalak got some decent RCs, Sandalak could finally push Taselak out. Also, some of defeats were my fault for trying out some crazy stuff to prepare for future battles. Some paid off while some didn't :o.
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I agree an end game should be set for war isle. 1 year to 18 months to keep things moving. If no champion realm exists, a reset starts it over.
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No reset until victory!
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I don't see how a reset would help end a 3 way war.
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I don't see how a reset would help end a 3 way war.
It wouldn't, but it would ensure that the realms weren't always the same people.
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No it wouldn't. Lots of people joined the same SI realm they were in before. And lots of people who die start a new character in the same realm. You can't /make/ people join a new realm.
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Taselak 4 life.
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I keep saying it, Taselak and Sandalak need to just team up and destroy Ikalak and then slug it out for the win.
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Taselak would partner with either realm if they would stick to an agreement. Neither will so it's not going to happen.
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Taselak would partner with either realm if they would stick to an agreement. Neither will so it's not going to happen.
Taselak didn't stick with Sandalak either. I still remember Sorach stabbing Kurlock in the back. Of course, Kurlock never trusted an infidel to keep her words.
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Everyone betrayed everyone.
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I mean, ya know, that's to be expected. Everyone was just waiting to see who stabbed whom in the back first.
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Everyone betrayed everyone.
I've never been particularly good at betrayal. It's probably the main character flaw of the Dubhaines.
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I've never been particularly good at betrayal. It's probably the main character flaw of the Dubhaines.
Well the Gabanus have some skill for it, but even Taselak under a Gabanus got betrayed first...