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Title: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: JDodger on November 16, 2015, 10:48:49 AM
This is extremely frustrating. I previously was able to use the full site from my phone, now I can't. I'm automatically forwarded to the mobile site.

I can't stand the layout of the mobile site. Travel is messed up on it. Overall this change is extremely annoying.

People who want to use mobile will use mobile all on their own without a forced forward. It brings zero net benefit to the players of this game to force people logging in from a phone to use the mobile site. Give us the choice, please.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Indirik on November 16, 2015, 04:19:45 PM
Two things:

First: this is new, and I don't think planned. Tom has made some server changes lately. This appears to have come with it.

Second: check to see if your browser has the option to request the desktop site instead. Chrome does, and I think others do as well.


Personally, I find the desktop site unusable on my phone.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Sacha on November 16, 2015, 10:49:14 PM
I, for one, welcome our new mobile site overlord.

Seriously though, I'm super stoked that at least now the sidebar isn't ALL OVER the page anymore.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Indirik on November 16, 2015, 11:07:42 PM
It's the same site that's been available at m.BattleMaster.org for years.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Sacha on November 16, 2015, 11:16:19 PM
It's the same site that's been available at m.BattleMaster.org for years.

YOU WILL NOT DULL MY TRIUMPH!
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Dante Silverfire on November 17, 2015, 01:37:04 AM
I have always used the main site on my phone so that I can have much easier use. I don't like the change if it is intentional long term.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Indirik on November 17, 2015, 02:05:13 AM
Why do you think the main site is easier?
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: JDodger on November 17, 2015, 03:35:44 AM
It's a matter of personal taste. I prefer having the sidebar rather than having to scroll up to the top of the screen all the time. The travel menu on mobile is all messed up and weird, I haven't been able to get routefinder to work at all. With a new char on colonies and zero previous experience with the island, that is a bit frustrating.

Then again others may have trouble with the sidebar, or not care about routefinder, and prefer the more streamlined feel of the mobile site. It definitely has its good points, they just don't outweigh the bad for me. I'd prefer to use the main site.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Dante Silverfire on November 17, 2015, 04:10:28 AM
Why do you think the main site is easier?

I can access the sidebar at any point. I just zoom in and click on the link I want. This saves a bunch of time when you have dozens of messages blocking the links at the top.

There is also the matter of uniformity from how I play on my computer.

The major appeal is definitely the ability to click links on the sidebar at any time.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: GundamMerc on November 17, 2015, 07:23:06 AM
I can access the sidebar at any point. I just zoom in and click on the link I want. This saves a bunch of time when you have dozens of messages blocking the links at the top.

There is also the matter of uniformity from how I play on my computer.

The major appeal is definitely the ability to click links on the sidebar at any time.

I don't know why anyone would use full site on mobile. It's buggy as all hell on a mobile browser.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: JDodger on November 17, 2015, 09:32:28 AM
Every mobile device is different. While the sidebar acts up occasionally on mine I still like the main site better.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Indirik on November 17, 2015, 03:23:26 PM
I can't stand the side menu on my phone. Takes up half the screen, and just gets in the way. The top menus are a bit annoying, but at least they get out of the way when your trying to read stuff.

And the route finder? I don't think I've used it more than half a dozen times. Ever.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Dante Silverfire on November 18, 2015, 12:16:37 AM
I just want the option. Now I can't even access the main site when I try to remove the mobile in the html.

Never hurt anyone before.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Indirik on November 18, 2015, 01:24:14 AM
Tell your browser to force the desktop site. All decent mobile browsers should be able to do it.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Dante Silverfire on November 18, 2015, 03:46:36 AM
Tell your browser to force the desktop site. All decent mobile browsers should be able to do it.

I never realized I could do that. Thank you.

Working great now
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Indirik on November 18, 2015, 04:09:02 AM
I almost never have to use that feature on my phone. Most sites work very well with a mobile site. Some, however, are just lacking a specific function that I need, and not necessarily even a complicated feature, so it's good to know how to do it.

I'm glad you can make it work this way.

As I said before, though, I don't believe this was a planned change. Probably something that came along with a package upgrade to the server. And since I directly access m.battlemaster.org, I never even noticed the switch. We share the server with some other number of Tom's projects, so we have no direct control over this kind of thing. The dev team literally had nothing to do with this.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: JDodger on November 18, 2015, 05:45:04 AM
If it can be changed back, please do so.

I don't know what forcing the main site means. If you could explain I'd be grateful, tho I still don't know if my lightweight phone can do it.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: GundamMerc on November 18, 2015, 06:29:48 PM
If it can be changed back, please do so.

I don't know what forcing the main site means. If you could explain I'd be grateful, tho I still don't know if my lightweight phone can do it.

It means that there is an option that makes your phone browser only use the desktop site for when you use a website.
Title: Re: Forced usage of the mobile site for phone users
Post by: Indirik on November 18, 2015, 07:49:25 PM
Mobile browsers usually have an option to request the desktop site. May have to dig a bit to find it.