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BattleMaster => Locals => East Island => Topic started by: GundamMerc on March 10, 2016, 12:13:47 PM
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As I expected, everyone's getting on the train to beat-down Oligarch and keep the status-quo of Sirion being the main realm in the north.
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As I expected, everyone's getting on the train to beat-down Oligarch and keep the status-quo of Sirion being the main realm in the north.
Are you aware of Oligarch's current political landscape? I don't see this happening yet tbh.
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Are you aware of Oligarch's current political landscape? I don't see this happening yet tbh.
Caligus, Sirion, Vix, and Perdan all at war with Oligarch, with Oligarch lacking any allies.
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Caligus, Sirion, Vix, and Perdan all at war with Oligarch, with Oligarch lacking any allies.
On paper that is indeed true, in reality things are a bit more complicated than that.
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Gotta learn to look beyond what is on the diplomatic relations page. EC's politics is weird.
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You've got that righ!
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Oh Caligus....y u do dis
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If i understood right, Oigarch could have easily dodge Perdan & Vix off from that list.
-Jaune
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If i understood right, Oigarch could have easily dodge Perdan & Vix off from that list.
-Jaune
I expect them to be removed from that list soon enough. Still, a war against both Caligus and Sirion will be hell nonetheless. But I had expected nothing less from Caligus :-)
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You should have expected that. Since when do BM players say no to a completely unbalanced gang-bang?
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You should have expected that. Since when do BM players say no to a completely unbalanced gang-bang?
I'd say Perleone...but I'm not certain if I am right or wrong about that... On paper, 3v1 sounds like it. But in reality it's like 3 Warwick Davis's going after Rhonda Rousey.
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I think realm versus realm counts are very simplistic and thus often misleading in declaring something a 'gangbang'. Noble versus noble counts are better. But are even better when considering capital distance to warfront and noble responsiveness/recent-war-experience/average-honour-per-noble. And ability to coordinate effectively with multiple realms.
3vs1 isnt a gangbang if 2of3 have lengthy refit times, the 1 has many more nobles than the 3, or many in the 3 have low honour, aren't responsive, or have poor cooperation.
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I'd say Perleone...but I'm not certain if I am right or wrong about that... On paper, 3v1 sounds like it. But in reality it's like 3 Warwick Davis's going after Rhonda Rousey.
More like 3 Rouseys going after Holms. :3
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As I expected, everyone's getting on the train to beat-down Oligarch and keep the status-quo of Sirion being the main realm in the north.
I do not remember Perdan jumping on the train to beat-down Oligarch. What Perdan want is their namesake city back and they declare war to take it. "Everyone" word is misleading here :P
On paper that is indeed true, in reality things are a bit more complicated than that.
Yes, very complicated. I need drink cup of coffee just to read all the information and hit my own head a few times before Brock replying, in order to avoid him reply wrongly ;D
Gotta learn to look beyond what is on the diplomatic relations page. EC's politics is weird.
Oh Caligus....y u do dis
Never say the politics is dull on EC... It is a big mess, more so if this realm A ally with that realm B, and that realm B ally with realm C, and realm C dont like realm A. And so on and so forth.
Diplomatic relations page is just a guide book, a basic ones at that. To learn and understand more, you need know the central characters ;)
If i understood right, Oigarch could have easily dodge Perdan & Vix off from that list.
-Jaune
You got that right. It should be easy for Oligarch *Looking at Garas hungrily* ::)
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Is Oligarch really *THAT* badass? If so, I'll have to start looking at them as bullies >:(
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Is Oligarch really *THAT* badass? If so, I'll have to start looking at them as bullies >:(
Bullies? No that would be going to far, but we are that awesome yes! 8)
Truth is, Oligarch has no allies and is assaulted from 2 sides by nations which are in theory larger/stronger each, althoug practically, that may be less so atm. Honestly I don't know how this will turn out though.
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Bullies? No that would be going to far, but we are that awesome yes! 8)
Truth is, Oligarch has no allies and is assaulted from 2 sides by nations which are in theory larger/stronger each, althoug practically, that may be less so atm. Honestly I don't know how this will turn out though.
If you end up alive and somehow manage to do something pretty I'm gonna be quite impressed, just sayin'.
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Well, you did well against Sirion and I warned you about Caligus when Garas tried to attract them using Akesh Temple as excuse. You kind of wanted them to wage war against Oligarch. About Vix and Perdan, they are not attacking Oligarch, just taking over the regions by the river. After that, I think they just want passage rights to attack Sirion/Nivemus... not that they want to help you or Oligarch, but if you survive Caligus/Sirion until Perdan/Vix are ready to march, maybe we can do something about Sirion... or maybe Ivo can think about how to solve the northern division about Nivemus and Sirion giving lands to new, smaller realms. The real problem is that these new realms in the north are less attractive... the south have small realms, but with more people. Now, try to look at the new realm in Karbala.
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The problem with the north is that on one hand, you have Sirion whose cities are clumped together (Sirion City is one region away from Avamar and Sir Temple, and two regions out from Slimbar and Parm, and even these two are one region away from Sir Temple), while on the other hand you have the smaller cities and many badlands of Nivemus and OI. It's kind of hard to center new realms with this landscape in mind, unless they're all in league together anyway.
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Well, you did well against Sirion and I warned you about Caligus when Garas tried to attract them using Akesh Temple as excuse. You kind of wanted them to wage war against Oligarch. About Vix and Perdan, they are not attacking Oligarch, just taking over the regions by the river. After that, I think they just want passage rights to attack Sirion/Nivemus... not that they want to help you or Oligarch, but if you survive Caligus/Sirion until Perdan/Vix are ready to march, maybe we can do something about Sirion... or maybe Ivo can think about how to solve the northern division about Nivemus and Sirion giving lands to new, smaller realms. The real problem is that these new realms in the north are less attractive... the south have small realms, but with more people. Now, try to look at the new realm in Karbala.
I know, contrary to common perception, Garas actually did speak with Perdan and Vix now. And Eponllyn is moving to peace again with Perdan/Vix as well.
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Well, if Oligarch decides to meddle (although forced because of the duchy moving) in the Perdan/Vix/eppy/nivemus war..
As it's been said here, I don't think Perdan and Vix are actively warring Oligarch. But if they will, it'll be because they searched for it themselves ;)
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Oligarch has been doing fairly well so far.
We lost a couple of our farthest regions to each Sirion and Caligus, but as always happens in war the further they have to go the harder it is for them.
Basically, if you can maintain a good army it is very hard for another nation to march within a day of a capital and maintain their strength when you sally out to meet them.
Oligarch was able to expand easily while fighting just Sirion. Caligus has made that less easy, but our losses have been minor and we may have stabilized matters once more.
The recent smashing of a Caligus takeover and then instant march to wipe out a Sirion takeover was a very well done one-two punch for instance and shows that Oligarch is a rather hardy little target for those who wish to look on them with avarice...
;)
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Does Caligus actually have a functional army?
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Basically, if you can maintain a good army it is very hard for another nation to march within a day of a capital and maintain their strength when you sally out to meet them.
That's a very big "if" these days.
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That's a very big "if" these days.
And the only way to combat that is to go to war. Which means risking the existence of the realm for a time period before you attract those war-hungry nobles. Because players restraining themselves to limited war aims is rare, even when they set out to do just that initially. So most prefer to sit and enjoy their titles than risk interacting with others.
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And the only way to combat that is to go to war. Which means risking the existence of the realm for a time period before you attract those war-hungry nobles. Because players restraining themselves to limited war aims is rare, even when they set out to do just that initially. So most prefer to sit and enjoy their titles than risk interacting with others.
Couldn't agree more.
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And the only way to combat that is to go to war. Which means risking the existence of the realm for a time period before you attract those war-hungry nobles. Because players restraining themselves to limited war aims is rare, even when they set out to do just that initially. So most prefer to sit and enjoy their titles than risk interacting with others.
hmm 8)
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And the only way to combat that is to go to war. Which means risking the existence of the realm for a time period before you attract those war-hungry nobles. Because players restraining themselves to limited war aims is rare, even when they set out to do just that initially. So most prefer to sit and enjoy their titles than risk interacting with others.
I applaud the leaders of Alara and Minas Nova's boldness. They raised their relations with Xavax to hateful a few days into the war. Now we Xavaxians avoid that point of getting moral hesitiations when our limitied war goals inevitable transforms to an urge for total annihilation ;D
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I applaud the leaders of Alara and Minas Nova's boldness. They raised their relations with Xavax to hateful a few days into the war. Now we Xavaxians avoid that point of getting moral hesitiations when our limitied war goals inevitable transforms to an urge for total annihilation ;D
Like pretty much everyone else, you mean? ;)
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I only hope that some day Garas will change FO's colour scheme so it is not completely indistinguishable from Nivemus on the map.
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I only hope that some day Garas will change FO's colour scheme so it is not completely indistinguishable from Nivemus on the map.
agreed, its my biggest petv peeve in bm... that and how messed up bels map is , thalmarkin looks like clear? like rogues like empty?
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where are you seeing that, thal logo is black and white on my map and quite visible
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where are you seeing that, thal logo is black and white on my map and quite visible
On the dynamic map
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ah, no worky on my celly so i never check it