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BattleMaster => Locals => Colonies => Topic started by: Skirting boards on April 25, 2016, 06:23:42 AM
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you cant make a thread like this for a pathetic gangbang, sorry
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you cant make a thread like this for a pathetic gangbang, sorry
How is it a gangbang exactly? The whole thing is quite involved how it initially started and how it got to where it currently is.
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Wetham declared hatred. Portion had reason to pile in, as their land was being used without permission. Lukon did not, they're merely jumping in because they can. So basically, this is a war of aggression by Wetham at this point to destroy Minas Thalion. If I was part of MT and Aren I'd be pissed off too.
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Nope... Wetham tried to end the war, Minas Thalion refused as they insist on vengeance against Wetham...
During their marches against Wetham, MT on numerous occasions caused damage in Portion lands, Portion then refused them access rights, but they continued anyway, so Portion got into the war.
After a few more issues within Portion lands, Lukon declared that they would be giving defensive assistance within Portion lands, not going out of allied lands.
Aren then attacked Lukon lands, changing the play once more.
Aren have been working alongside MT at numerous times throughout all of this, I'm not entirely certain about Orit's involvement at the moment, but if you're going to intentionally be aggressive against multiple realms, you can't then complain that they all start fighting back...
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Here's my understanding of events from skimming messages.
MT was mad at Wetham for an assassin and/or some other dastardly deeds. They waged war upon Wetham. But they had to march through Portion. Apparently MT's ruler didn't ask Portion's ruler nicely and after doing it more than once, Portion started defending their lands from MT. Lukon started demanding MT stop trespassing as Portion is Lukon's sister (i think they should be federated based on how close their two rulers behave) until it joined in. So Aren said Portion or Lukon or both were big and bad meanings beating up pon poor MT and they'd defend MT.
Completely unrelatedly, nobles in Oritolon got grumbly with their king about not being at war while the rest of the continent was, so they went to liberate the king's family's region of Abaka from Aren.
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Nope... Wetham tried to end the war, Minas Thalion refused as they insist on vengeance against Wetham...
During their marches against Wetham, MT on numerous occasions caused damage in Portion lands, Portion then refused them access rights, but they continued anyway, so Portion got into the war.
After a few more issues within Portion lands, Lukon declared that they would be giving defensive assistance within Portion lands, not going out of allied lands.
Aren then attacked Lukon lands, changing the play once more.
Aren have been working alongside MT at numerous times throughout all of this, I'm not entirely certain about Orit's involvement at the moment, but if you're going to intentionally be aggressive against multiple realms, you can't then complain that they all start fighting back...
I didn't say Wetham declared war, I said they declared hatred, which means they will be at war until either their own or the other realm's destruction. If you don't believe me, look at the diplomacy page. The rest is meaningless, it's disproportionate retribution.
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Almost. If Keplerstan declares hatred on Evilstan, then Keplerstan cannot raise relations back to regular war. Unless Evilstan sends an offer to do so (or maybe an offer of neutrality). On the other hand, if Evilstan also declares hatred back on Keplerstan, then both realms are stuck at hatred for all eternity until death do them part.
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...which is the state Outer Tilog & Giblot Magnum are in... :)
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You miss out on Wetham. Wetham did war against MT no?
How is it a gangbang exactly? The whole thing is quite involved how it initially started and how it got to where it currently is.
If we can separate out the wars one by one. I would say like this.
-Oritolon versus Aren (To reclaim Oritolon King family homeland)
-Lukon, Portion versus Aren, Minas Thalion (To fight off MT trepassing Portion lands and killing Portion militia)
-Wetham versus Minas Thalion (MT noble was attacked by Wetham Ruler brother who was an infiltrator but the brother has disappeared since then)
-Outer Tilog(OT) versus Giblot Magnum (OT dislike Giblot name for Giblot name reminds OT of their ancient enemy Giblot. Both Outer Tilog and Giblot used to be ally when Giblot name is Inner Tilog. Well, you get the idea why both realms named Tilog)
Here's my understanding of events from skimming messages.
MT was mad at Wetham for an assassin and/or some other dastardly deeds. They waged war upon Wetham. But they had to march through Portion. Apparently MT's ruler didn't ask Portion's ruler nicely and after doing it more than once, Portion started defending their lands from MT. Lukon started demanding MT stop trespassing as Portion is Lukon's sister (i think they should be federated based on how close their two rulers behave) until it joined in. So Aren said Portion or Lukon or both were big and bad meanings beating up pon poor MT and they'd defend MT.
Completely unrelatedly, nobles in Oritolon got grumbly with their king about not being at war while the rest of the continent was, so they went to liberate the king's family's region of Abaka from Aren.
What Vita says is correct and pretty much sum up the Subject title above.
Today battle, Oritolon captured Aren General/Marshal/Lord of Warmanoras. He appears to have quite many titles to his name.
What's next? Stay tuned 8)
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the longest excuse train to ever roll thru bm forums. all aboard!
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the longest excuse train to ever roll thru bm forums. all aboard!
The reason for the 'gangbang' is of MT's own doing... Many warnings were given which they chose to ignore on multiple occasions... There are repercussions to actions and complaining of unfairness at something that could have been avoided isn't really right.
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The reason for the 'gangbang' is of MT's own doing... Many warnings were given which they chose to ignore on multiple occasions... There are repercussions to actions and complaining of unfairness at something that could have been avoided isn't really right.
So have said all the rulers of Atamara. :3
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So have said all the rulers of Atamara. :3
I didn't play there so don't get the reference...
However, just for more clarity, Portion stated they would be defensive only, then MT looted their lands rather than just passing through and fighting militia as they had been previously, escalating things. Lukon stated they would be defensive only, then Aren attacked Lukon lands... If you're walking on hot coals to try to get to what you're really after, don't go stoking the flames one the way across or you just make things worse for yourself.
...and if you're in the Colonies and truly object, raise it IC in the Colonial Senate for discussion. Oftentimes nobles are not kept fully informed (not necessarily intentionally) of what is going on and the reasons behind it all.
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I didn't play there so don't get the reference...
However, just for more clarity, Portion stated they would be defensive only, then MT looted their lands rather than just passing through and fighting militia as they had been previously, escalating things. Lukon stated they would be defensive only, then Aren attacked Lukon lands... If you're walking on hot coals to try to get to what you're really after, don't go stoking the flames one the way across or you just make things worse for yourself.
...and if you're in the Colonies and truly object, raise it IC in the Colonial Senate for discussion. Oftentimes nobles are not kept fully informed (not necessarily intentionally) of what is going on and the reasons behind it all.
I have objected. But being a member of Outer Tilog, my objection was given in a suitably irrational manner :P
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why must you all quote essays
and write essays
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What if a Portal suddenly opens up and lot of rogue force come through? Will all the wars stop?
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They'd probably go on hold. Depends where the rogues were I guess :)
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They'd probably go on hold. Depends where the rogues were I guess :)
If in Outer Tilog they'd probably be considered nobility by the peasants and given right to rule.
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the longest excuse train to ever roll thru bm forums. all aboard!
Oritolon will no doubt come up with other reasons for war against others. If not, I'm sure Raziella or Goriad II will create one somehow.
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I just realized that half of the colonies are at war with MT and Aren. It would have been an interesting conflict had Oritolon chosen to either stay out of it or side with MT.
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While I won't debate the choices of enemy, I must assert that it is definitely superior to doing nothing and watching everyone else's battles.
And again, Oritolon's conflict is separate from the wars that Aren declared upon other realms.
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While I won't debate the choices of enemy, I must assert that it is definitely superior to doing nothing and watching everyone else's battles.
And again, Oritolon's conflict is separate from the wars that Aren declared upon other realms.
Honestly, that's meaningless. Technically, the Soviet Union's war with Germany was separate from the Allies. That meant little to Germany, who was fighting them on two fronts.
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Honestly, that's meaningless. Technically, the Soviet Union's war with Germany was separate from the Allies. That meant little to Germany, who was fighting them on two fronts.
Except for those parts where the Soviet Union and the Allies shared information and had multiple strategic conferences about the war and then the war's conclusion.
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Except for those parts where the Soviet Union and the Allies shared information and had multiple strategic conferences about the war and then the war's conclusion.
And who's to say the players here aren't sharing info?
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An even better example would be Poland vs. Germany and USSR
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And who's to say the players here aren't sharing info?
They could be. I do not know. But you seem to indicate that You Know.
An even better example would be Poland vs. Germany and USSR
I'm rather certain it was Germany/USSR vs Poland. And again, Poland had alliances/agreements with UK and France that resulted in the the Allied involvement in the war.
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They could be. I do not know. But you seem to indicate that You Know.
I'm rather certain it was Germany/USSR vs Poland. And again, Poland had alliances/agreements with UK and France that resulted in the the Allied involvement in the war.
Minas Thalion = UK/France, an ally that is in no position to help them.
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Minas Thalion = UK/France, an ally that is in no position to help them.
I agree Minas Thalion = UK/France in World War 2. Not in good position to help Aren until they settle their own war first.
Actually if MT willing to compensate Portion for its militia loss, that will take out 2 realms, Lukon and Portion out of the war. Then it will be left to Wetham to hold up the war banner against MT. Lukon, sister of Portion already say it crystal clear. If only MT does what we thought they should do...
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After Minas Thalion initial success at taking over Windaria from Portion realm. Minas Thalion managed to enter deep into Padaost city, Lukon land only to find it is outnumbered there in strength. Only time could tell if they find ways to break through Lukon or Portion. With Wetham is too far away to be affected and threatened land-wise, it appears Minas Thalion is targeting Portion and Lukon.
Meanwhile Oritolon force twice attacked Aren force at Irdalni, only to be met with defeats. Assassins infiltrators are spotted lurking nearby the south war zone, what could they be up to?
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After Minas Thalion initial success at taking over Windaria from Portion realm. Minas Thalion managed to enter deep into Padaost city, Lukon land only to find it is outnumbered there in strength. Only time could tell if they find ways to break through Lukon or Portion. With Wetham is too far away to be affected and threatened land-wise, it appears Minas Thalion is targeting Portion and Lukon.
Meanwhile Oritolon force twice attacked Aren force at Irdalni, only to be met with defeats. Assassins infiltrators are spotted lurking nearby the south war zone, what could they be up to?
Damn, knew the 80 man guard assasin attempt was a stupid move :-)
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Damn, knew the 80 man guard assasin attempt was a stupid move :-)
Now I gotta make up some excuse for you.
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Now I gotta make up some excuse for you.
I thought assasins were now allowed by the senate right? I should just expect a ban no?
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I thought assasins were now allowed by the senate right? I should just expect a ban no?
Yes and no. Ever since Nikita joined the Senate shes been fighting to allow infiltrators in realms and now it seems the general consensus is that yes harboring infiltrators is now legal. However non-Assassin infiltrators will not be afforded the same protections as Assassin infiltrators.
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Damn, knew the 80 man guard assasin attempt was a stupid move :-)
Now I gotta make up some excuse for you.
Someone say now whole realms coming after Orit :o
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Yes and no. Ever since Nikita joined the Senate shes been fighting to allow infiltrators in realms and now it seems the general consensus is that yes harboring infiltrators is now legal. However non-Assassin infiltrators will not be afforded the same protections as Assassin infiltrators.
which is fair, as they have the worst infiltrators on the island and need all the help they can get 8)
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Would someone like to explain to me why Oritolon is warring Aren.
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-Oritolon versus Aren (To reclaim Oritolon King family homeland)
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