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Title: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 06, 2016, 08:14:50 PM
Everyone hates us, but that's because we know Truth and everyone else is a Liar.  8)

I figured we should start a thread for all the Spearhold people and for those wanting to get a glimpse of what it's like to worship the Gods of the Portal.

Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: T0mislav on July 06, 2016, 08:22:17 PM
It seems imminent that Netherworld forces will overtake Beluaterra...
What then?
War for dominance between worshipers of different Demons?
Or sunk of another continent?
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 06, 2016, 08:30:57 PM
I think Beluaterra will be downsized but I don't think the Neatherworld will completely TO the island, I'm sure a few Lying Realms will survive to start a genocide against the Akkanese people of Spearhold.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Zakilevo on July 06, 2016, 08:32:48 PM
Time to sink it!
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Logar on July 06, 2016, 08:33:53 PM
War for dominance between worshipers of different Demons?


That might be interesting, considering Usul has for years been secretly worshiping another demon, not present on the island.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 06, 2016, 09:03:34 PM
Time to sink it!
They're already calling to sink an active island with rich RP value because they fear us so much. ;D It's funny because as a collective realm of players we have no intention of wiping out the Liars, where would the fun be in that? I think having a presence of both Liars and Truthseekers on the island would really make for an interesting atmosphere. I think sinking it entirely would be a shame, a lot of people play on Beluaterra specifically for the invasions.

If you only knew Truth then you would know the path before all of us as residents of Beluaterra. Portal followers get some interesting RPs with a lot of cryptic hints as to what is going, I have a theory as to what will happen, but I'll keep that to myself for now. I'll tell you one thing, Daimon worship is unpredictable and often times extremely frustrating but some how that's what makes it so much fun.

The Irony of this situation is that Josep lied to the King of Thalmarkin that he would be part of the human resistance in return for Spearhold's surrender after Josep's rebellion. Josep was little more than a petty criminal in his youth, then he was a rowdy legionnaire, now, people speak much worse of him.


That might be interesting, considering Usul has for years been secretly worshiping another demon, not present on the island.

That would be very interesting indeed, I wonder what the Might of Aku might think of that?
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Logar on July 06, 2016, 10:11:21 PM
That would be very interesting indeed, I wonder what the Might of Aku might think of that?


I am fairly sure he knows that something aint quite right with Usul....and Erasmus ;)

I am enjoying this island a lot. When I came back after some time off, I was specifically looking for an evil realm to place Usul into, to match his own characteristics. When he was in the Far East, although the realm wasn't particularly evil, they turned a blind eye to some of his antics. Here in Spearhold, Usul feels more at ease.

However, out-of-character I have been pondering a while over how to integrate Usul into the realm although he Worships his own demon Zraath. I shall have to get down to catching up on some RP's.
Basically there are still many missing pages from Usul's book, so Usul is unsure if there is any connection between Akkan and Zraath. He will follow Akkan under the premise that Akkan is doing the work of Zraath, until proved otherwise.
Erasmus though....doesn't really favour Akkan, the professed demon god. He just doesn't seem to connect with him... for some strange reason....
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: JDodger on July 06, 2016, 11:00:01 PM
is this an rp thread
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: JDodger on July 06, 2016, 11:02:42 PM
because if so i put on my robe and wizard hat
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Victor C on July 06, 2016, 11:35:45 PM
is this an rp thread
I don't see why not, we're a RP realm after all. Just has to relevant to the topic is the rule for all threads I believe.


I am fairly sure he knows that something aint quite right with Usul....and Erasmus ;)

I am enjoying this island a lot. When I came back after some time off, I was specifically looking for an evil realm to place Usul into, to match his own characteristics. When he was in the Far East, although the realm wasn't particularly evil, they turned a blind eye to some of his antics. Here in Spearhold, Usul feels more at ease.

However, out-of-character I have been pondering a while over how to integrate Usul into the realm although he Worships his own demon Zraath. I shall have to get down to catching up on some RP's.
Basically there are still many missing pages from Usul's book, so Usul is unsure if there is any connection between Akkan and Zraath. He will follow Akkan under the premise that Akkan is doing the work of Zraath, until proved otherwise.
Erasmus though....doesn't really favour Akkan, the professed demon god. He just doesn't seem to connect with him... for some strange reason....
You could just roleplay the confusion going on in your head as you want to believe that Akkan and Domina are the true gods while you have the counter force of Erasmus attempting to pry at your beliefs. This will make for an interesting clash of belief vs family. I'd evovle it to the point that there is a violent showdown the forces Usul to decide, but that's just me.

Time to sink it!
But... But... I like the island  :'(

It seems imminent that Netherworld forces will overtake Beluaterra...
What then?
War for dominance between worshipers of different Demons?
Or sunk of another continent?
The end of humanity on BT is unlikely, it will most likely not end in daemonic factions due to the fact that players refuse to worship daimons (because everyone's the golden good guy who will never be evil). What I see is Daimon Worshippers vs Humanity. That's just my hopeful thinking however, because I truly don't know  ;D
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 07, 2016, 03:04:25 AM
I don't think Josep ever intended to be evil, I think he was just a hoodrat that got forced into the military. The military was the only thing in life was ever good at, and I think with the influence of all the daemon worshipers so close he's begun to act more like them. His victory over Caelum brought out a pretty ruthless side to him though.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on July 07, 2016, 04:17:46 AM
Loving the invasion and glad Spearhold is around to liven it up. Things are getting lovely grim lately allover its so good. Dont sink Bel its the best.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Vita` on July 07, 2016, 04:35:54 AM
Everyone can rest easy. BT will not be sunk. There is no discussion of sinking any island, at this time.

I recommend roleplaying and seeing where it takes you. Most of the 'development' through the Invasion has originated in a player idea somewhere, so run with your idea/interpretation/twist and see where it goes.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Zakilevo on July 07, 2016, 06:04:57 AM
Everyone can rest easy. BT will not be sunk. There is no discussion of sinking any island, at this time.

I recommend roleplaying and seeing where it takes you. Most of the 'development' through the Invasion has originated in a player idea somewhere, so run with your idea/interpretation/twist and see where it goes.

I am disappointed  :'(
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 07, 2016, 05:11:57 PM
Everyone can rest easy. BT will not be sunk. There is no discussion of sinking any island, at this time.

See I told you guys! Don't be scared, the Truth will guide you.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Vasik on July 07, 2016, 07:56:39 PM
Fear the day Vasik becomes a deamon!!!! I shall devoure the souls of all mortal men!!!!

Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 07, 2016, 08:52:47 PM
Fear the day Vasik becomes a deamon!!!! I shall devoure the souls of all mortal men!!!!



We have to survive the coming genocide before that can happen.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Vasik on July 09, 2016, 06:05:14 AM
What coming genocide?

Finally got the Pale Rat...that's like wining the Caelish war all over again.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Logar on July 09, 2016, 12:20:30 PM
Credit where it's due. He was a slippery rat indeed. He was very difficult not just to catch, but to hold him down aswell. He did cause a headache, but was fun.

The player knows how to build a good infiltrator, and I hope he comes back to build another.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Gabanus family on July 09, 2016, 12:38:20 PM
Credit where it's due. He was a slippery rat indeed. He was very difficult not just to catch, but to hold him down aswell. He did cause a headache, but was fun.

The player knows how to build a good infiltrator, and I hope he comes back to build another.

Building a good infil takes ages. Even if he does come back, I doubt Spearhold would ever see him as an infil. First you need the honor and prestige and then the swordfighting and the infil at insane high levels to be effective.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Victor C on July 09, 2016, 10:54:13 PM
Building a good infil takes ages. Even if he does come back, I doubt Spearhold would ever see him as an infil. First you need the honor and prestige and then the swordfighting and the infil at insane high levels to be effective.

(skilled infiltrator here)

Takes about two months to log in and train. Upon then, everything else is literally just increasing as you do minor infiltrator tasks like killing militia and damage production .

Once you get passed the train phase, it's a fun class to play ^^
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: JDodger on July 10, 2016, 01:19:05 AM
you dont have a boss infil vic whatchu talkin bout
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Victor C on July 10, 2016, 04:40:59 AM
you dont have a boss infil vic whatchu talkin bout

I HAD an infiltrator...

After I made a new account I stopped playing only Infil so I could experience the rest of the game. My swordskill was one of the highest in Atamara and I stabbed Ottar, ruler of Tara. I HAD a boss infiltrator  :'(
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Gabanus family on July 10, 2016, 09:37:29 AM
I HAD an infiltrator...

After I made a new account I stopped playing only Infil so I could experience the rest of the game. My swordskill was one of the highest in Atamara and I stabbed Ottar, ruler of Tara. I HAD a boss infiltrator  :'(

In my memmory it takes longer to built an 80/80 infiltrator than 2 months. That's without the having to get enough h/p to be even considered when you have to start over with a new knight.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Victor C on July 10, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
In my memmory it takes longer to built an 80/80 infiltrator than 2 months. That's without the having to get enough h/p to be even considered when you have to start over with a new knight.

True, though it doesn't take more than a few months, I assure you. No more than a year guaranteed (if you're not lazy)

I'm sorry, but an infiltrator rarely trains in the academy all the way to 80/80. That is wasteful in the gold department and boring, around 50/50 or 60/60, you train through the actions and deeds of killing militia because it trains both infiltration and swordfight.
A boss infiltrator is in the 90/90 area... 80/80 is just someone who hasn't died yet. Though, great impossible feats can still be commonly accomplished in the 70/70 area.

The Infiltrator class requirements for honour and prestige can be gathered within a month, hunting rouges. Inna war, twice as quickly.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Gabanus family on July 10, 2016, 01:58:02 PM
Gold has never really been an issue for me, so maybe that's where we differ on that one :p

What I did notice is that many do as you suggest and then get captured much quicker and risk bans and executions before they're properly trained. My infil (well now paused after being banned, going rogue and losing his infil sub-class...) was actually at 100 fame for infil and 97 or so at SF on the colonies, but trained him mostly in the academy actually. It took very long though as the SF training was typically in between the Talerium raids.

I also made the mistake with another char of mine (60/60) to try and stab people. Not a good idea, do always just steal tax gold and what not.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 10, 2016, 04:55:28 PM
Pale was pretty good, Josep has 77 sword skill last I checked. He's been in numerous duels and never lost once. When Pale showed up, he lost fair and square, so even though I am disappoint over losing, I am much impress with Pale. He was a pain in the ass, a very serious threat to Spearhold, but as a player I felt bad we executed him. To be honest he did more damage to Spearhold than any Army has yet, we came within an inch of losing Heen solely because of him. Literally killed thousands of CS worth of militia, we're all sleeping good knowing he's gone now.

What coming genocide?

The one that always happens after an invasion when the Daemons go away. We're pinned as being the evil maniacs but when you look at the history of Beluaterra, after an invasion, or even during the anti-daemon forces band together Axis style and start genociding the pro-daemon forces. Who are the real killers on Beluaterra? We're just fighting for our way of life and right to exist, that's all.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Logar on July 10, 2016, 05:30:52 PM
but as a player I felt bad we executed him.

When I created Usul a few years ago (Have had OOC breaks between then and now), I intended to play him as an evil character. I found that playing an evil character was not that easy-- There is always an OOC obstacle to climb over (for me anyway). That obstacle was knowing that there is a player behind the characer that you are performing evil deeds to. Everyone who plays BM knows that there should be a seperation between OOC and IG actions, but it is not always that easy.

I did feel some OOC guilt for executing him, that cannot be denied... but again we all know to try and keep OOC and IG seperate. Because I attempted an execution once before and he escaped, the player knew IG and OOC that Usul will go through with another. I had to use that to allieviate some OOC guilt. Also looking through his character history I concluded that he was quite a long term player, (A new player I probably would have not been so cruel) and has a history of creating infiltrators on a regular basis, and have had some of those executed. The point I am tryng to make is, that some actions are not taken without some OOC consideration no matter how much anyone tries to seperate.

The least I could do, was to RP the event and at least make something of it as a small consolation for the player of Pale. I would be pretty peeved if a character of mine was executed and just left as that in silence.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Chamberlain on July 11, 2016, 04:38:45 AM
The one that always happens after an invasion when the Daemons go away. We're pinned as being the evil maniacs but when you look at the history of Beluaterra, after an invasion, or even during the anti-daemon forces band together Axis style and start genociding the pro-daemon forces. Who are the real killers on Beluaterra? We're just fighting for our way of life and right to exist, that's all.

You've been peddling that you actually summoned the Daimons in the first place and were a daimon religion worshiping group before the invasion...
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 11, 2016, 10:03:31 AM
You've been peddling that you actually summoned the Daimons in the first place and were a daimon religion worshiping group before the invasion...

Josep has peddled nothing, what our former Harbinger might have said in the ruler channel is unknown to me.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Vita` on July 11, 2016, 10:10:52 AM
You've been peddling that you actually summoned the Daimons in the first place and were a daimon religion worshiping group before the invasion...
I think, more accurate, was that they worshiped a dark-lord/god more than anything specifically daimon. The daimons just took the opportunity to use their existing roleplay for their own ends. Just like in other Portal roleplays mentioning religion. Don't Invent New; Build On What Already Exists.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 12, 2016, 12:00:21 AM
I think, more accurate, was that they worshiped a dark-lord/god more than anything specifically daimon. The daimons just took the opportunity to use their existing roleplay for their own ends. Just like in other Portal roleplays mentioning religion. Don't Invent New; Build On What Already Exists.

Yeah, true that.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 13, 2016, 05:40:42 PM
A Hemmings joined our realm, I don't know how to feel... He's either going to be really good for us, or really bad for us. My money is on being bad for all of Beluaterra, at least he's interesting as he trolls his way through the lands. I won't even lie, I've fallen for a trick of his before, now I'm ultra suspicious of him.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, well, ya see, I can't be fooled again." -George W. Bush.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: GundamMerc on July 13, 2016, 05:53:49 PM
A Hemmings joined our realm, I don't know how to feel... He's either going to be really good for us, or really bad for us. My money is on being bad for all of Beluaterra, at least he's interesting as he trolls his way through the lands. I won't even lie, I've fallen for a trick of his before, now I'm ultra suspicious of him.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, well, ya see, I can't be fooled again." -George W. Bush.

I find his characters all annoying. End of story.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Vita` on July 13, 2016, 06:10:49 PM
It doesn't help BM's social aspect that people often associate family traits with all characters. Yes, there are some noticeable tendencies, since its the same player, but there are also plenty of times a character breaks a family mould. Let's not typecast others into roles, even if past history has given us a grain of skeptical salt on them. Perhaps a new story might be written instead of the same old.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Gabanus family on July 13, 2016, 06:23:14 PM
It doesn't help BM's social aspect that people often associate family traits with all characters. Yes, there are some noticeable tendencies, since its the same player, but there are also plenty of times a character breaks a family mould. Let's not typecast others into roles, even if past history has given us a grain of skeptical salt on them. Perhaps a new story might be written instead of the same old.

I agree with you for about 99% but there are some players who can simply only play one type of noble unfortunately. And after seeing 4 different nobles of one family doing the same (for some that's white knight) then you can sort of make that assumption.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 15, 2016, 05:54:12 PM
I find his characters all annoying. End of story.

Strangely enough, I actually enjoy having him around. I find him to be rather humorous and he brings an element of excitement to the game since you never really know the kind of crap he's going to pull when you log in. I used to live in a poor neighborhood, everyone was really nice and they were great people, but there was this one family a couple houses down from me that the Hemmings family reminds me of. Everyone hated them, they were constantly starting fights and their kids were always stealing from the other kids and getting into trouble. Stegman reminds me of their youngest kid, this red headed boy named Gary that looked like Howdy Doody. The kid would call his mom awful names in public and she didn't seem to care, but that's what I expect out of an alcoholic/drug addict mother. Anyways, that's how I imagine the Hemmings family, they bring me the same laughter that this family I grew up next to did. I figure if the player of Hemmings family can make me reach back 20 years to a memory of mine and amuse me, he's doing something right.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: JDodger on July 15, 2016, 06:10:37 PM
this made me laugh  ;D
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Logar on July 15, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
So whats worse then? a Hemmings or a Mayhem?   :o

I actually don't know the answer to that.

Mods please delete this post if it might cause a nuclear fallout.  :P

Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Zakilevo on July 15, 2016, 08:06:42 PM
Not sure if I should be happy or sad that Lapallanch family is not being grouped up with the likes of Mayhem and Hemmings :o
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Gabanus family on July 15, 2016, 09:07:33 PM
Not sure if I should be happy or sad that Lapallanch family is not being grouped up with the likes of Mayhem and Hemmings :o

Why would we? Lapallanch are just awesome in a different way, don't worry Zakky  8)
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 15, 2016, 10:05:21 PM
I'll take Hemmings over Mayhem any day.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: BarticaBoat on July 15, 2016, 10:19:09 PM
Miskel Hemmings (that was the first one right) was the best Hemmings.

"So a-we're g'nna cause-a lotsa ruckuses while tookin' lik-a Swedish chef"
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Chamberlain on July 16, 2016, 10:23:59 AM
I love having a Hemmings around... there are a couple of families who are trouble for troubles sake, I really wouldn't put Hemmings there, he is ambitious and a definite motivator.  He's the kind of guy who'll tell you he is going to stab you in the back before he does it... gotta respect that.

As to trouble for troubles sake, these guys don't seem to recognise that that doesn't enliven a realm it just gets boring if anything
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Sacha on July 16, 2016, 08:38:22 PM
Eh... they're just annoying to me. Every Hemmings I've encountered was an arrogant, potty-mouthed firebrand. And when you go against them, suddenly you suck at BM because you won't let people have fun. It doesn't help that he insists on using these godawful character names that nobody can type out, let alone pronounce.

Give me a Mayhem any day. Sure, they're just as arrogant and annoying as a Hemmings, but at least that one doesn't feel the need to complain OOC all the time.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: GundamMerc on July 16, 2016, 09:06:45 PM
Eh... they're just annoying to me. Every Hemmings I've encountered was an arrogant, potty-mouthed firebrand. And when you go against them, suddenly you suck at BM because you won't let people have fun. It doesn't help that he insists on using these godawful character names that nobody can type out, let alone pronounce.

Give me a Mayhem any day. Sure, they're just as arrogant and annoying as a Hemmings, but at least that one doesn't feel the need to complain OOC all the time.

Same here.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Gabanus family on July 16, 2016, 11:10:12 PM
Same here.

I don't think I ever had a Hemmings in my realm. Worked with/against the Mayhems often enough though.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: Keuerleber Family on July 17, 2016, 05:09:15 PM
It seems Stegman has been executed, I'm sure many will rejoice. Josep was sad he couldn't do it himself seeing that Stegman tried to kill him many times.
Title: Re: Spearhold
Post by: steelabjur@aol.com on July 17, 2016, 07:22:29 PM
Yep, my character Aramon had him drawn and quartered after a torture session (the roleplay of which can be found on the RP board), his first actual flexing of his new power as Judge in Xavax. It's the sort of thing that sets a tone, executing such a well known character. I got messages from all over giving Aramon virtual back pats for ridding the gameworld of Stegman. Of course that means the Hemmings family has a spot open for a new character. Be interesting to see where he pops up again.

Personally, having shared realms with both families, I find the Mayhem family more enjoyable to interact with than the Hemmings.