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Title: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 08, 2016, 05:13:46 PM
Watchtower bug

I have yet to see reduced wood gathering from not manning the tower. On the previous day on Ulmendorp, 22 people gathered wood, and the tower was not manned. All 22 people still gathered 3 wood for that day!
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 10, 2016, 11:46:32 AM
You found a bug. Thank you. Fixed it now.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 10, 2016, 05:03:25 PM
You found a bug. Thank you. Fixed it now.

Damn  ;D

I was enjoying that free wood-gathering  ??? ??? ;D
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: James on September 10, 2016, 05:09:15 PM
Damn  ;D

I was enjoying that free wood-gathering  ??? ??? ;D

I was enjoying the AI wood gathering when their families starved to death. Guessing AI shouldn't really survive as long as some have in a couple of games.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 11, 2016, 08:00:58 AM
I am honestly surprised how long the really, really stupid AI survives. It's a good indicator that game balance is still off. But that's exactly what the open beta is for. :-)
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: James on September 11, 2016, 08:25:30 AM
I am honestly surprised how long the really, really stupid AI survives. It's a good indicator that game balance is still off. But that's exactly what the open beta is for. :-)

Looks like we've got a couple that will make it to the spring in one game... One benefited from being inline with a player, so their hut was also more defended, the other just seems to have been very lucky!
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 11, 2016, 09:00:23 AM
Beta 13 should take care of some of this with a big balance update.

And then there's the unresolved mystery of Build 12...
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Andrew on September 11, 2016, 02:32:01 PM
So... I decided I'd try playing a match again, but I can't use my old player ID of 26 with it's key to login and if I try to setup a new account with my email, I get "Server error." Email is the same as the one for my forum account, Tom, if need it to figure out what's going on.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 11, 2016, 03:30:51 PM
So... I decided I'd try playing a match again, but I can't use my old player ID of 26 with it's key to login and if I try to setup a new account with my email, I get "Server error." Email is the same as the one for my forum account, Tom, if need it to figure out what's going on.

I believe I can answer your questions, as the same thing happened to me & I consulted with Tom regarding it:

1) Only part of the key is going through, which leads to it giving a false login password.
2) The server error is because you are using the same email (it would allow a different email).
3) Tom asked that I email him from my email account used for that game account, with the details of the issue. I'll message you the email that he directed me to email to.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 11, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
What Bael said. Also, it really just says "server error"? It should really show something more informative.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 11, 2016, 10:23:16 PM
What Bael said. Also, it really just says "server error"? It should really show something more informative.

Yep
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 11, 2016, 10:38:15 PM
Looks like the well is now having no effect on fields  ;D

Eberhorst has over 50 fields, and the well wasn't manned on day 3. No fields were negatively affected.

And the lumuria/jira site also seems to be down right now  ;D
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Andrew on September 12, 2016, 10:22:48 AM
If I use the ID and access key from Jun 22nd, the most recent I appear to have, it tells me I either have the wrong ID or Key. If I attempt register with that email it tells me, "Server error. Please try again in a few minutes. If the problem persists, please report it on the forum." It has been 18+ hours, so I believe I have fulfilled both the try again later and report on forum requirements.

If you want to check your logs, you should see an access attempt at approx 0920 GMT+1 (which is local to you Tom, IIRC) failing for user ID 26 and then a failing attempt to register with me email address. I also sent you the email with ID and key from the address I was trying to use Tom.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: James on September 12, 2016, 03:20:01 PM
Might be an issue with food consumption again. My family in one game (day 30) has 2 fine, 2 hungry, and 2 famished...
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 12, 2016, 08:04:08 PM
If I use the ID and access key from Jun 22nd, the most recent I appear to have, it tells me I either have the wrong ID or Key. If I attempt register with that email it tells me, "Server error. Please try again in a few minutes. If the problem persists, please report it on the forum." It has been 18+ hours, so I believe I have fulfilled both the try again later and report on forum requirements.

If you want to check your logs, you should see an access attempt at approx 0920 GMT+1 (which is local to you Tom, IIRC) failing for user ID 26 and then a failing attempt to register with me email address. I also sent you the email with ID and key from the address I was trying to use Tom.

Strange, I see no errors in the logfiles. I don't even see an access at all. I need to check timezones.

Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Andrew on September 13, 2016, 11:43:57 AM
Apparently that was the activation key that was supposed to go for the activation link, which no longer works because I used it to get a player key, which I don't know. My laptop may still have it setup, now that I think about it, but this does highlight an issue: what happens when players lose their Player Keys? Seems like we should have a way to just request a new one using whatever email we registered with.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 13, 2016, 07:46:31 PM
Really odd bug: If I run BF from steam or my desktop shortcut for the steam version, it registers that I am playing Black Forest on steam.

If while I am running it I pin it to my taskbar, close the game and run it from there, it doesn't show up. I even deleted my standalone version.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 13, 2016, 10:30:22 PM
Apparently that was the activation key that was supposed to go for the activation link, which no longer works because I used it to get a player key, which I don't know. My laptop may still have it setup, now that I think about it, but this does highlight an issue: what happens when players lose their Player Keys? Seems like we should have a way to just request a new one using whatever email we registered with.

There is a "forgot my key" button on the login page. :-)
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 13, 2016, 10:30:50 PM
Really odd bug: If I run BF from steam or my desktop shortcut for the steam version, it registers that I am playing Black Forest on steam.

If while I am running it I pin it to my taskbar, close the game and run it from there, it doesn't show up. I even deleted my standalone version.

Very strange. I don't have a Windows PC to reproduce. Any way to figure out what, exactly, it's doing?
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Andrew on September 14, 2016, 04:31:50 AM
Very strange. I don't have a Windows PC to reproduce. Any way to figure out what, exactly, it's doing?

Steam games played via Steam are basically just a fancy URL: "steam://rungameid/523070". Steam games launched from a desktop shortcut that Steam made also use that URL, so they interact with Steam to launch the executable. And URL is Window's term, not mine. You can also use these URLs in a webpage to have a link open a certain title in Steam or even launch a game in steam.

If you make a shortcut yourself by pinning it to the taskbar while the game is running, you get a traditional shortcut, as made by Windows and most other OS's: "C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Black Forest\Black Forest.exe"; which just goes straight to the executable, skipping Steam altogether.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: James on September 19, 2016, 07:16:30 AM
the Bronzewasser game has gone strange. The others I just played were fine, but that one doesn't load up a village, all I get is the grass texture. No other info at all, family not listed either. As if it can't be found to load it. Games before and after that village have been fine, just that one with the issue.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 19, 2016, 07:50:38 AM
the Bronzewasser game has gone strange. The others I just played were fine, but that one doesn't load up a village, all I get is the grass texture. No other info at all, family not listed either. As if it can't be found to load it. Games before and after that village have been fine, just that one with the issue.

Do you have a time for me when you tried it so I can check the logs? I think I'm not in that game.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 19, 2016, 09:22:20 AM
Checking it now, at time of posting, and it is still like that.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 19, 2016, 11:41:46 AM
I see it, but it's a library error, not in my code. Will be tricky. I'll take your family to my account for a few minutes to fix it.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 19, 2016, 11:52:02 AM
Found it and fixed it.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 19, 2016, 12:15:38 PM
Found it and fixed it.

Looks good - thanks! So its pretty much just myself and James there  ;D
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 19, 2016, 08:18:10 PM
I can't be in every game. I have like 20 running. :-)
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 19, 2016, 08:44:58 PM
I can't be in every game. I have like 20 running. :-)

I think I'm at that number now also  ;D
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Bael on September 28, 2016, 11:29:36 PM
Tom, can you please re-open the ticket on attacks canceling repairs? This is a game-breaking bug. ???
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: James on September 29, 2016, 11:15:48 PM
It appears that stone walls cannot be attacked in PvP. Only option I get is to repair them (and that's not what I want to be doing :) )
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2016, 08:53:06 AM
That is strange, because there is no such check in the code. Is something else different about them, or the plot they are on? Or maybe it's just not a PvP game?
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2016, 08:53:50 AM
Tom, can you please re-open the ticket on attacks canceling repairs? This is a game-breaking bug. ???

should be fixed now
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: James on September 30, 2016, 11:17:03 PM
That is strange, because there is no such check in the code. Is something else different about them, or the plot they are on? Or maybe it's just not a PvP game?

Definitely PvP (I've had my hut destroyed a few times by one of the other players (huts seem to break quite quickly now, it certainly didn't take 8 damage to destroy it each time)) and others seem to have been able to attack the fences (on common land) next to my plot, but I only get repair or improve options on any of the fencing (I was wrong first time, I've now looked and it's the same for fences, wood walls and stone walls), no attack option.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on October 01, 2016, 09:28:55 AM
give me details please. which game, family, etc? I might take your family for a few minutes to check.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: James on October 01, 2016, 10:09:27 AM
give me details please. which game, family, etc? I might take your family for a few minutes to check.

Can't get to my Mac to fully confirm at moment but, based on the emails, I'm pretty sure it's Eberhorst, family Meier.

We've just moved back to the top right after rebuilding our hut again (but issues were there when had hut, no hut, and living on common ground.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: James on October 03, 2016, 05:15:47 AM
Looking at another game, I've been attacked in a non PvP game (though my family does not have the option for any offensive actions against the other one). That's in Efeukirchen - not a PvP game but my hut and walls were attacked by the other player. (I'm not a fan of the PvP way of playing and have stopped selecting them as games to be involved in, so having it happen in a non PvP one is very sad :( )
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on October 03, 2016, 08:51:09 AM
true, found the bug, fixed it, will be fixed in the next beta.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: PolarRaven on October 23, 2016, 11:03:33 PM
I just clicked on the OPEN MANUAL link in the UI and got "Apache HTTP Server Version 2.4 Documentation" page which I am pretty sure is not the game manual.
Same page several times.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: Tom on December 06, 2016, 06:15:56 PM
PolarRaven - can you try that again, please? Sorry for missing it back in October, I don't read this forum very often anymore.
Title: Re: General Bug Reporting
Post by: fodder on December 14, 2016, 08:49:04 AM
assuming you mean the menu -> open manual link within a game, that's been working for me with no issues. (steam version anyway)