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Title: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 27, 2017, 04:51:28 AM
First conceptualized in late 2015, this project has been in the works for a while, waiting for an ideal confluence of events before taking shape. There is a long-term, epic plan that I have in store, assuming the realm survives long enough or thrives well enough. But for those of you who see my posts, I challenge you to find the last time I ever described anything as epic.


Anywho, here's the wiki I hashed together that describes the events immediately leading up to the realm's creation. I hope you all enjoy what I have in store.

http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Sacred_Obia%27Syela

http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Heralds_of_Obeah (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Heralds_of_Obeah)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on April 27, 2017, 08:31:38 AM
Great work, looking forward to see how this unfolds ;)

Was actually getting a bit bored with the daimons and their surprise attacks.
Can't wait thill their gone or somehow change into some other role.
They are constricting the players from doing anything else, because fighting them depletes resources and investing resources into anything else, a war with the other humans realms for example, is almost immposible and atleast self destructive.

The whole idea that the daimons can strike any time any where with great force makes any move on anything else far too risky.

The previous invasions where quicker, cleaning up the continent then leaving it almost complete destroyed.
However the build up from that was slow, it did create room for many new opportunities for lots of players.

Right now there is nothing to do but wait thill the daimons attack...
Hopefully this new will change that.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Wimpie on April 27, 2017, 09:17:56 AM
Well now, this is interesting! The last realm that was created in the North (BA in Ossmat) did not last long, although they claimed to be friendly towards us, secretly.

Anyway, this has potential. Might mess with Nothoi's plans since they claim Keffa though!

Why isn't Rania ruler yet?
EDIT: Oh yeah you lost everything when becoming Prophet of your new religion.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on April 27, 2017, 02:07:32 PM
Holy !@#$!

Yup, that's pretty much all I have to say.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 27, 2017, 03:54:19 PM
Well now, this is interesting! The last realm that was created in the North (BA in Ossmat) did not last long, although they claimed to be friendly towards us, secretly.

Anyway, this has potential. Might mess with Nothoi's plans since they claim Keffa though!

Why isn't Rania ruler yet?
EDIT: Oh yeah you lost everything when becoming Prophet of your new religion.


Yeah this is my first time foundign a religion and I did not realize all the titles would go away. I'm hoping that anyone can run and vote in the elections (because I forgot to check the settings) otherwise Obia'Syela will be pretty short lived!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 27, 2017, 04:32:09 PM
Sooo atm, Yao Ling, accompanied by an army from Nivemus, is in Keffa. Rania, unconscious from her ordeal, lies naked in the gravel of the crater where she'd arrived. Yao Ling navigated her way through the hundreds of lessor Daimons protecting Rania to cover the younger noblewoman's modesty with her own cloak.


OOC...I tried preaching and the followers of the Portal took exception to that, wounding her, so now Rania really CANT respond to messages.


Gotta love how the game mechanics sometimes serve to reinforce the RP!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D'Espana on April 27, 2017, 06:12:59 PM
JeVondairs are pretty much like some sort of tectonic plaque. You KNOW they're there, you KNOW they're always moving and you always keep forgetting about them due to the glacial speed of their plans. That's when they pop a volcano in your garden and cover your lawn in ashes and lava.

Damned JeVondairs.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 27, 2017, 07:08:20 PM
JeVondairs are pretty much like some sort of tectonic plaque. You KNOW they're there, you KNOW they're always moving and you always keep forgetting about them due to the glacial speed of their plans. That's when they pop a volcano in your garden and cover your lawn in ashes and lava.

Damned JeVondairs.


That's the sweetest thing anyone has ever said to me
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D'Espana on April 27, 2017, 08:09:55 PM
And I wasn't even trying that hard  ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on April 27, 2017, 11:27:35 PM
So! I've read the RPs (very nice writing btw, especially from story-making point - both JeVondair and whichever dev/mod plays the daimon lord), and I have this weird question, and I don't mean it as anything. Surely not anything other than curiosity.

My question is (and I wouldn't have to ask it if I had a noble on BT)... from OOC POV - is Rania really leading a daimon unit? Or is it a regular unit RP'd out as a daimon unit? Or I could really ask - are devs/mods involved in the new event/story/realm/whatever ? Because, you know, that could really reinforce the awesomeness.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on April 28, 2017, 01:11:22 AM
There is a daimon militia unit loyal to the realm, in the capital region. Its effectively just like any other militia unit, so not controlled by any players. GM involvement is through the daimon lord.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: steelabjur@aol.com on April 28, 2017, 09:19:34 AM
Sooo atm, Yao Ling, accompanied by an army from Nivemus, is in Keffa. Rania, unconscious from her ordeal, lies naked in the gravel of the crater where she'd arrived. Yao Ling navigated her way through the hundreds of lessor Daimons protecting Rania to cover the younger noblewoman's modesty with her own cloak.


OOC...I tried preaching and the followers of the Portal took exception to that, wounding her, so now Rania really CANT respond to messages.


Gotta love how the game mechanics sometimes serve to reinforce the RP!

Nothoi, army of Nothoi. Bunch of Daishi zealots, most of them.  ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 28, 2017, 03:33:23 PM
So the peasants are upset because of the extreme distance to the capital...


From Keffa...


IN Keffa...


Can I get some help/advice please?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on April 28, 2017, 04:07:25 PM
That's in reaction to the previous realm's distance from capital. Peasants take a few days to update their opinions after taking a region.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 30, 2017, 01:34:34 AM

Now then, I don't suppose either of you dabble in theology? The Heralds of Obeah can use some work and any ideas or experience is welcome!


Here are some ideas I have for
Realm titles:
Ruler = Archon
General = Ecclesiarch
Judge = Inquisitor
Banker = Chancellor


(I may or may not be playing Dawn of War atm so...)


Religion Titles
Founder = First Herald
High Priest = Cardinal
Priest = Chaplain
Noble (Full Rank) = Herald
Noble Follower (non-full member_ = Scholar
Follower (adventurer rank)= Adept
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on May 01, 2017, 08:24:50 PM
Now then, I don't suppose either of you dabble in theology? The Heralds of Obeah can use some work and any ideas or experience is welcome!


Here are some ideas I have for
Realm titles:
Ruler = Archon
General = Ecclesiarch
Judge = Inquisitor
Banker = Chancellor


(I may or may not be playing Dawn of War atm so...)


Religion Titles
Founder = First Herald
High Priest = Cardinal
Priest = Chaplain
Noble (Full Rank) = Herald
Noble Follower (non-full member_ = Scholar
Follower (adventurer rank)= Adept

Ecclesiarch is weird imo, but the rest sounds nice. There was this special title for the dude (or dudess, I guess) who leads a crusade, it would fit perfectly. I can't recall it right now though.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 01, 2017, 09:09:25 PM
I'm really tempted to switch the secular ranks to Eldar hierarchy, just because I want to use the term farseer, lol


but yeah you are right, I'll loose eccisiarch in favor of something else
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Medron Pryde on May 04, 2017, 10:29:12 AM
Good luck.

I hope to see something interesting up there.

Nothoi spent a lot of time and treasure taking Keffa from Old Grehk back before this Invasion started.  It's not a very rich city unfortunately.

But if you are able to secure good relations with nearby realms, you might do well.

Now if we could just figure out how to rebuild the Daishi temple the Daimons burned down..  ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 04, 2017, 05:26:34 PM
The religion game is new to me. Can you have two temples to different religions in the same region?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on May 04, 2017, 06:04:54 PM
The religion game is new to me. Can you have two temples to different religions in the same region?

Yes, but you cant build two temples of the same religion in the same region.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 04, 2017, 11:25:38 PM
But if you are able to secure good relations with nearby realms, you might do well.


Easier said than done. Rania's neighbors do not seem inclined to trust her very much. Imagine that.


Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. Looks like I have my work cut out for me!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Medron Pryde on May 08, 2017, 08:12:41 AM
You can have many temples in a region.  One to as many religions as you wish.

Of course, only the region lord can build a temple, anyone can loot them, a region lord can close the, and other fun stuff.

And the region lord must be a member of the religion in question before he or she can build a temple to that region.

Let us say that very few regions have more than one temple, and fewer still have more than two temples.  I cannot in fact think of one that does.

;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Wimpie on May 08, 2017, 09:12:54 AM
You can have many temples in a region.  One to as many religions as you wish.

Of course, only the region lord can build a temple, anyone can loot them, a region lord can close the, and other fun stuff.

And the region lord must be a member of the religion in question before he or she can build a temple to that region.

Let us say that very few regions have more than one temple, and fewer still have more than two temples.  I cannot in fact think of one that does.

;)

I think 3 of our regions in Thalmarkin have 2 temples. Golden Feather, Daishi are active in the realm and then we have that damn 'The Portal' religion who had been building temples everywhere they went  ???
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 08, 2017, 06:18:52 PM
I think 3 of our regions in Thalmarkin have 2 temples. Golden Feather, Daishi are active in the realm and then we have that damn 'The Portal' religion who had been building temples everywhere they went  ???


Do temples auto-generate followers? I know the Daimon Lords are priests, but nothing short of mind control seems able to explain how wide-spread the Portal is. It will be a long, difficult task to uproot it.


Additional question, is it worthwile for a priest to study oratory at the academy? how does that really affect preaching?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on May 08, 2017, 07:03:00 PM
somebody hasn't seen this page yet ::):

http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Priest_Game

Temples and shrines generate followers
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D'Espana on May 08, 2017, 07:34:47 PM
Additional question, is it worthwile for a priest to study oratory at the academy? how does that really affect preaching?

I don't know about priests, but I can totally speak for diplomats and ambassadors in the middle 2013 period. I got one to almost top skill in a year and a half of praising and badmouthing pretty frequently, never using academy save for checking my skills every now and then.

I would say it is only worth to use the academy if you have absurd amounts of gold at your disposal. Otherwise, just practice (in your realm when possible, as I seem to recall that it was free if you were between your frontiers) and let it grow naturally.

And it is just incredible how much can do a single Ambassador with top skill. In two sessions of 12 hours I could pretty much make an opinion of any given realm from hate to love or the other way around. It felt pretty badass to use Ghaundan's jedi mind tricks like that  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 08, 2017, 09:18:21 PM
somebody hasn't seen this page yet ::) :

http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Priest_Game (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Priest_Game)

Temples and shrines generate followers


I shall study!


It felt pretty badass to use Ghaundan's jedi mind tricks like that ;D

I miss Ghaundan :-[ :-X :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Wimpie on May 08, 2017, 10:15:07 PM

Do temples auto-generate followers? I know the Daimon Lords are priests, but nothing short of mind control seems able to explain how wide-spread the Portal is. It will be a long, difficult task to uproot it.


Additional question, is it worthwile for a priest to study oratory at the academy? how does that really affect preaching?

I believe Vita knows quite a lot about this but I shall try to give highlights. Surely read that wiki page, for if that is still up to date.

I believe Temples in a region retain current followers (you need a temple to keep your followers) and get new followers from within the region.
Shrines attract followers from neighbouring regions. I believe it's something like that. There's a whole strategy in placing these temples/shrines just right so you don't waste unnecessary gold  ;D But don't ask me, because I never really got into it.

And obviously, the higher your oratory, the more followers you can reach and convert. I think it's easier to just preach, which will gain you skill as well.

*Awaits Vita to enter*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 08, 2017, 10:35:54 PM
*Awaits Vita to enter*


As promised I have been studying. Pretty excited about building one of the mega temples. I am hoping the peasants it can support (80k) is not a requirement for building it right? I've never lorded over a city that big!


And I just checked for the option to build a shrine in addition to the temple that is already present, no love. Where would I find that option?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D'Espana on May 09, 2017, 04:35:52 AM
I miss Ghaundan :-[ :-X :-\ :'(

So do I miss Rynn  :'(

And I thought shrines just forced some of your converts to travel to the neighbouring regions, so that your religion spread even without preaching or a temple there?

I am almost 100% positive that you can have bigger temples than the current population of the region. I seem to recall a couple instances of devastated regions with their temples still on them.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anaris on May 09, 2017, 04:39:36 AM
There's no particular restriction on temple size by region population. As far as the expansion code is concerned, they're just guildhouses.

Shrines "motivate" followers in the region, increasing the likelihood of traveling to and conversions in nearby regions.

Priests can build shrines in any region that has more than a bare-minimum following (I think it's 5% or something?).
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Wimpie on May 09, 2017, 07:52:08 AM
There's no particular restriction on temple size by region population. As far as the expansion code is concerned, they're just guildhouses.

Shrines "motivate" followers in the region, increasing the likelihood of traveling to and conversions in nearby regions.

Priests can build shrines in any region that has more than a bare-minimum following (I think it's 5% or something?).

Yes, besides the obvious gold & time requirements, you need a bare-minimum following (10% or a fixed amount of followers to account for very small regions).

You will find the option under the religion tab.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 09, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
Ah, thanks you much. I'll get to work.


Meanwhile, I've a lot more writing to do on this whole religion thing
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 10, 2017, 09:59:24 PM
On a mostly unrelated note, I need opinions as to which of the following names sound best:


The Inquisition
The Templar Inquisition
The Templar Ordo Malleus Inquisition
Inquisitorial Templars of the Ordo Hereticus


I am leaning towards Simple being better...So just the Inquisition...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 10, 2017, 10:29:32 PM

the Inquisition  will be hell-bent on rooting out the various heresies of the Portal and the Netherworld. A multinational effort to end the infernal threat, tree, root, and leaf.


Here's the idea inspired by Warhammer 40,000:


The Inquisition:
Elder Ranks:
Normal Ranks:
Followers:
Kill the Daimon, Purge the Heretic, Cleanse the Unclean.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on May 11, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
Oooh! Remember, to be like the real Inquisition, destroy random regions and kill a minimum of ten thousand peasants each day for suspected Daimonic influence.

Suspected.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 11, 2017, 02:52:26 PM
Innocence proves nothing.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: daviceroy on May 23, 2017, 12:01:32 PM
Burn the peasants... If they survive they are followers of the Netherworld and must be drowned.  If they don't, then their souls have been cleansed.  Logic checked. LOL

I wasn't really sure if this was the start of a new invasion or not because of the way things went down.  It's not often a player is teleported and given a realm.  This is the first time I had seen it myself.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 23, 2017, 02:27:11 PM
Everyone always assumes Daimons. My aren't y'all a jaded bunch...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: DeVerci on May 23, 2017, 02:43:41 PM
*proceeds to offer sanctuary to the conspirators who pledged an entire realm to the Netherworld.
How not to befriend your neighbors 101.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on May 23, 2017, 02:47:00 PM
Daimons.
*gets cultist robes*
Where?!?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 23, 2017, 05:12:41 PM
*proceeds to offer sanctuary to the conspirators who pledged an entire realm to the Netherworld.
How not to befriend your neighbors 101.


"Sanctuary"


Do you know what the Inquisition does?  ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on May 23, 2017, 11:56:19 PM
Do you know what the Inquisition does?  ;)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_Y4MbUCLY (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_Y4MbUCLY)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D'Espana on May 24, 2017, 12:32:01 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_Y4MbUCLY (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_Y4MbUCLY)

I was going to summon exactly that. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder804/250x250/32173804/spanish-inquisition-nobody-expects-the-spanish-inquisition.jpg)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 24, 2017, 06:26:55 PM
This may well be my shortest-lived realm ever.  :-\
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on May 24, 2017, 08:40:43 PM
I don't think so...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on June 26, 2017, 02:02:50 PM
Sooo...

They just lost their capital.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: DeVerci on June 26, 2017, 03:22:14 PM
Obia'Syela? More like "Ohbye'Seeya!'  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Wimpie on June 26, 2017, 03:57:24 PM
Obia'Syela? More like "Ohbye'Seeya!'  ;D

Haha damn good one.

Did Netherworld take it over? I'm wounded so can't check  :-\
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on June 26, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
Nope. Rebellion. Spearhold now has a fresh new city...although greatly gnawed upon.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Ketchum on June 29, 2017, 02:41:16 AM
Obia'Syela? More like "Ohbye'Seeya!'  ;D
Hard to say and spell this realm name. Any idea?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 03, 2017, 03:23:35 PM

Question: The ruler of fronen is trying to give Rania Rines now that Obia has been destroyed:

Quote
Realm Destroyed   (21 hours, 10 minutes ago)
message to all nobles of Obia'Syela
Your realm has lost all its regions and has been destroyed. To regain a region and rescue your realm from being forgotten in dusty history books, another ruler must give your ruler a region. Alternatively, a foreign duchy must change allegiance to your ruler or a royal realmmate; of course, that duchy should have regions of its own. Finally, a foreign region lord could change allegiance to one of your duchies. If none of these happen, you must change allegiance to a new realm or you risk being declared a rogue, with the risk of being executed.


However, we get the following message:


Quote
Out-of-Character from Bastian Moore   (1 hour, 10 minutes ago)
The realm of Obia'Syela does not border on this region, and you can not give regions away to a faraway realm.


Andrew Moore


Is that a bug?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: DoctorHarte on July 04, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
Not entirely sure, but I think this has to do with the fact that the Moore player is a Ruler in a Republic. He can't give away the city because we have elected a Governor for the city and only they can change the city's allegiance.

As much as I know you want to kick off Obia-Syela in the south, you're gonna have to wait to come to a better agreement with Fronen than just dealing with Bastian. None of us agreed to his new terms to hand over the city. At this rate, he will not longer be Doge in 3 days time so I understand why you're trying to rush things :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on July 05, 2017, 02:13:24 AM
Not a bug afaik. Would be weird for a bug to be exactly what the IG text tells you to be right.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on July 05, 2017, 08:13:47 AM
As much as I know you want to kick off Obia-Syela in the south, you're gonna have to wait to come to a better agreement with Fronen than just dealing with Bastian. None of us agreed to his new terms to hand over the city. At this rate, he will not longer be Doge in 3 days time so I understand why you're trying to rush things :P

haha, you guys...
Keep electing the wrong ruler.
Bastian also barley communicates with the other rulers and I am quite sure that helping Rania like this won't do Fronen good in terms of foreign relations either.
He never even announced anything, al we got was an in game notification hat Fronen signed an alliance with Obia.

Idle, stuborn players can sometimes really ruin the game. (Bastian isnt THAT bad though)
Atleast you have various ways to get rid of a ruler, to get rid of a Royal duke and Margrave is impossible.
But poor Fronen already had a semi revolution with the last ruler.

I also have one character in Gotland that holds 'the' duke title, margrave of capital and judge but does not communicate anymore for a long time now.
He just click plays BM and ignores all letters, including ooc on purpose, and only responded once saying something like " he didnt need to respond to our nonsense".
We managed to attract allot of new players that roleplay and communicate frequently that want to discover more about the game.
Luckily this guy alone isnt enough to completely ruin a realm, but it is definitely frustrating.


Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Wimpie on July 05, 2017, 11:35:06 AM
Considering the so called bug.. I would expect handing over a region to OS would be possible. At the very least, it shouldn't say OS doesn't border Rines because obviously OS has no regions.

I would need to check further into that.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: DeVerci on July 05, 2017, 04:49:22 PM
No realms should be in Rines or the graveyard of Riombara, all that's going to do is isolate them, and isolated realms only go two ways: They either get wiped out by rogues and daimons(like Riombara), or they're far enough away that no one cares/can do anything feasible and build up and become gold-farmy conflict starters. With the current mixmash of borders and neighbors we're forced to deal with each other, whether it be for good or bad.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on July 05, 2017, 05:05:32 PM
No realms should be in Rines or the graveyard of Riombara, all that's going to do is isolate them, and isolated realms only go two ways: They either get wiped out by rogues and daimons(like Riombara), or they're far enough away that no one cares/can do anything feasible and build up and become gold-farmy conflict starters. With the current mixmash of borders and neighbors we're forced to deal with each other, whether it be for good or bad.

It's a challenge but not impossible.
A realm in Rines can become a westgard like realm fighting rogues, or it can become a looting realm, with the entire east coast at their disposal.
It can also expand, seceed and fight it's self.

I Think a realm in Rines can definitely impact the entire islands politics if it finds an effective way to loot other realms.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: DeVerci on July 05, 2017, 05:15:29 PM
Except that we don't have the major natural rogue issues here on BT. Right now all the realms are war weary and have all been significantly impacted in terms of wealth, regions and even nobles. Taking a realm that is for all intents and purposes marked for death, and putting it in a location that is known to have no meaningful interaction with other realms is a cheap way out. At least with Fronen controlling it, although it may serve as an income booster, it's more of a 'colony', while they're still forced to deal with everyone on the mainland and still can face consequences.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 05, 2017, 07:42:44 PM
As much as I know you want to kick off Obia-Syela in the south, you're gonna have to wait to come to a better agreement with Fronen than just dealing with Bastian. None of us agreed to his new terms to hand over the city. At this rate, he will not longer be Doge in 3 days time so I understand why you're trying to rush things :P


That's interesting as it wasn't Bastian's or Rania's idea in the first place. But Fronen did get Wudenkin out of this, making it really hard to understand why JoeFronen in the street would complain about 'losing' Rines.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on July 05, 2017, 09:33:12 PM

 making it really hard to understand why JoeFronen in the street would complain about 'losing' Rines.

Between special powers to save humanity and being a witch is only a very fine line.
How much does Rania weights compared to a duck?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anaris on July 05, 2017, 10:10:10 PM
Is that a bug?

It is.

Please try again, as I believe I have fixed it.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 05, 2017, 11:11:35 PM
Between special powers to save humanity and being a witch is only a very fine line.
How much does Rania weights compared to a duck?


There exists a tipping point between gods and monsters, they say. but in this case there is an actual WitchKING out there that really no one is making a big enough deal about.


And didn't anyone ever tell you to never ask a lady about her weight?  ;D

It is.

Please try again, as I believe I have fixed it.


Thanks Anaris! Will try next turn and report back
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on July 05, 2017, 11:33:31 PM
Quote
WitchKING out there that really no one is making a big enough deal about.

Allot is happening actually, it's just not shared with your character, your new ruler or your realm by your new ruler.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 06, 2017, 12:12:00 AM
Allot is happening actually, it's just not shared with your character, your new ruler or your realm by your new ruler.


yeah....i was referring to the forums.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on July 06, 2017, 08:12:31 AM

yeah....i was referring to the forums.

Ow yeah, I forgot.

Shame on you Angmar! WITCHKing? may we burn her/him?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 06, 2017, 06:49:09 PM
It is.

Please try again, as I believe I have fixed it.


I'm afraid it still is not working. i updated the bug tracker with the specific game message received.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on July 07, 2017, 04:01:47 AM
It's a challenge but not impossible.
A realm in Rines can become a westgard like realm fighting rogues, or it can become a looting realm, with the entire east coast at their disposal.
It can also expand, seceed and fight it's self.

I Think a realm in Rines can definitely impact the entire islands politics if it finds an effective way to loot other realms.

Westgard is close enough for a handful of realms to have come help on multiple occasions. Astrum, Avernus, Arnor, and Morek, namely. And has a permanent source of rogues to fight. Daimons aren't persistent, and Rines isn't really close to any realm.

I think it'd be better to leave it rogue.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on July 07, 2017, 06:26:22 AM
Westgard is close enough for a handful of realms to have come help on multiple occasions. Astrum, Avernus, Arnor, and Morek, namely. And has a permanent source of rogues to fight. Daimons aren't persistent, and Rines isn't really close to any realm.

I think it'd be better to leave it rogue.

I think Rines wasn't Jevondairs first choice either.

I am also curious what rogues will be doing in beluaterra in the future.
Perhaps they will stop coming when the daimons leave?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on July 07, 2017, 07:14:25 AM
Unlikely.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Wimpie on July 07, 2017, 08:24:51 AM
Unlikely.

Haha straight and to the point.

Anyway, Rines is given to OS. So bug is gone.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 07, 2017, 07:11:05 PM
As is Bastian, he was voted out almost immediately and I think the character was deleted? Rania no longer has him in her contacts and now has to deal with a rather ornery replacement in Duchess Nyx.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 07, 2017, 07:13:42 PM
Anyway, Rines will be for the better, I think. I new realm-building challenge that I've never encountered, thankfully not between 4 far stronger powers.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Bronnen on July 07, 2017, 08:22:17 PM
No, Bastian is still there, but Rines might not be shortly. Or at least might not be OS's for much longer.

Not from Fronen mind you, but just because that area is a !@#$show.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 07, 2017, 10:40:34 PM
I have no idea why he would not be in her contacts anymore  :-X
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Logar on July 08, 2017, 01:22:55 AM
A few of us can atest that building a new realm is quite a challenge. Dominorum had a disadvantage that we were building Ete from a population of one single peasant (a half-breed), plus we have a rival next door. Of course there is the rogue attacks too. As stated Rines has 5000 population which is a good start. It will be quite a challenge for you and interesting to watch, although Zraath denied us a settlement there forcing us to move further South  :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 12, 2017, 07:17:21 PM
Well the capital is moved and things seem to be [hopefully] stabilizing. I've never seen a region in as rough shape as Rines, though.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on July 13, 2017, 02:13:42 AM
Huh, that's where Salion died against Aletha.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D'Espana on July 15, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
Well the capital is moved and things seem to be [hopefully] stabilizing. I've never seen a region in as rough shape as Rines, though.

I've seen a few region rebuildings from the 1 peasant mark, so believe me when I tell you it can be far worse.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on July 15, 2017, 07:35:05 PM
Well the capital is moved and things seem to be [hopefully] stabilizing. I've never seen a region in as rough shape as Rines, though.

This statement surprises me. Are you really sure about that? Because I thought you were around for a number of regions needing to be brought up from 1 pop.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 16, 2017, 01:11:03 AM
I have yes, but those were desert regions or other frontier-type spots.  I've never seen a city with such a low percentage of it's population. Rines has just over 4000/64000. Starving. All the infrastructure was gone and not a single turn has passed without being hit by rogues. The militia that Fronen left suck up tax gold. It will be very challenging, slow going


It will certainly be an uphill adventure!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: DoctorHarte on July 16, 2017, 02:58:35 AM
As is Bastian, he was voted out almost immediately and I think the character was deleted? Rania no longer has him in her contacts and now has to deal with a rather ornery replacement in Duchess Nyx.

Bastian is here, wounded, but here. Not as chatty either since not being re-elected. Thanks for the compliment, at least you get Sheja for a bit. We might not need it since we lack food and Sheja doesn't produce jack.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on July 16, 2017, 03:21:45 AM
I have yes, but those were desert regions or other frontier-type spots.  I've never seen a city with such a low percentage of it's population. Rines has just over 4000/64000. Starving. All the infrastructure was gone and not a single turn has passed without being hit by rogues. The militia that Fronen left suck up tax gold. It will be very challenging, slow going


It will certainly be an uphill adventure!

That's... pretty good!

The number of times D'Haran cities fell to 1 pop is too great to count.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anaris on July 16, 2017, 04:32:42 AM
D'Haran cities nothing; Rines itself has been very, very badly starving many times. It got a very bad reputation during the earlier invasions.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: DeVerci on July 16, 2017, 04:52:59 AM
It's not called starving in a city full of priests, the proper term is fasting  ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D'Espana on July 16, 2017, 04:33:42 PM
I remember a certain starving cycle in Port Nebel that left it in a pretty sorry state when I was first made its lord and duke. That was actually little after my arrival to the game, was left wondering if I could had done something to save it from doom.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 17, 2017, 05:27:22 PM
It's not called starving in a city full of priests, the proper term is fasting  ;)


+1


lol
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 17, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
So as it turns out Sheja was too far to lift food from. I might make a feature request for markets to be able to conduct trade over sea tiles and for a greater distance if the city has a shipyard or something.


Anyway, SOS needs to TO an adjacent region. one has 6k and the other has 4k and i don't remember how many men it takes to TO a region that size. The assign militia function for generals has never worked for me.


I have a few questions:
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on July 17, 2017, 06:39:43 PM
1. What do you mean by prophet-status? You won't lose your founder position. But a religion must maintain half of its elders as priests, or all the temples lose one size every day.
2. Religions spread into other regions, especially regions where they are no temples to maintain beliefs.
3. No. As far as I know, the only way to ever take over a rogue region is militarily with an army using traditional takeover methods. There is no buying, religious claiming, or other means to acquire rogue regions.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 17, 2017, 08:17:54 PM
Thanks for the insight. i wonder if the Cause Unrest function could be used instead? Can rogue regions even revolt? lol. I've never seen it happen.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on July 17, 2017, 08:46:56 PM
No, rogue regions don't revolt from independence. They savour their sweet local independence under a tribal chieftain, equals under an anarchist-syndicate, or just participating in good ole town hall governance with a board of selectmen. :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 17, 2017, 09:50:37 PM
No, rogue regions don't revolt from independence. They savour their sweet local independence under a tribal chieftain, equals under an anarchist-syndicate, or just participating in good ole town hall governance with a board of selectmen. :P


Well then, i'll just have to find away to disabuse them of such foolhardy notions...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 20, 2017, 08:15:58 PM
It turns out that looting your neighbors isn't always a bad plan. Things seem to be on the mend!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on July 29, 2017, 06:25:26 PM
And just when you think, thinks look positive....... daimons show up...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on July 31, 2017, 01:54:26 PM
Daimons ARE positive.

If you're Spearhold or Dominorum.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on July 31, 2017, 04:52:19 PM
And sea landings are difficult for all of us. Undead slaughtered daimons on the beach...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on July 31, 2017, 05:07:33 PM
Hah! And there are bandits brave enough to steal gold from daimon overlords too!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on July 31, 2017, 06:27:52 PM
Overlords?  :o

I thought Jomorosh was the only one left...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Logar on July 31, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
There is of course Zraath. However not many people know much about him, and he does not exist in actual physical form... as far as I know  :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on July 31, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
The overlord is the ruler, so basically 'bandits attack daimonic rulers too'. Referring to the class of rulers/overlords, not that there are multiple daimons left. Jomorosh is only played-character that is a daimon; anyone else would be mere roleplay.

Zraath...*chuckles and smiles*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on July 31, 2017, 11:09:40 PM
They feed on broken hope.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on September 21, 2017, 06:10:35 PM
I think we are safely out of the redzone. It was touch and go there for a while, but players dug their heals in, contributed, and found a way to make it work. There are two armies now, Rines is producing gold, there's even an internal rivalry brewing. With only 15 nobles, however, I think our expansion will arrest pretty soon. But with Dominorum destroyed, the actual kingdoms Obia'Syela is officially at war with are wayyy too far away for us to do anything against. ideally, I'd love to start colonizing and forming daughter-kingdoms, but alas we are too few. We make it to Grehk, I believe, but I doubt we'll get farther. Food isn't a terribly big issue, but Rines has been on double rations for a month now, increasing the population from under 3k t over 11k. Rania is presently the only priestess in the Heralds, so I'm really failing at convincing people to try the priest game, but its fun y'all swearswear, lol. Ideally I'd like at least 3 priests to hold the ruling council positions so Rania can step down and focus on the faith-side of things. We did have a character from Dominorum join, but he was banned shortly after for not conforming. Can't very well have an officially unrepentant daimon worshipper in our ranks?


While I've started Wikis for the realm, the Heralds, and the Inquisition, I really haven't had the time to delve into it further. I suppose my next goal as ruler will be to invite my players to generate some content that I can then sort onto the wiki: Prayers, stories, roleplays, etc.



Now that my report is done, I have a question about production. All of the infrastructure in Rines is suffering from lack of production. The city was severely depopulated and production has been crawling since we took over. Is there anyway to address this besides the gradual repopulation of the city?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Logar on September 21, 2017, 07:30:41 PM
Ooh curious, who was the character joined you from Dominorum?

P.s. Take a closer look at the map, Dominorum is still hanging around like a bad smell  :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on September 21, 2017, 07:43:28 PM
That little scrap of land far to the north west? Does that count? Will it become a realm? Not sure what's happening there, but the south at least is free of them.


The character that joined was Gnaeus. i forget his position but it was ruling council. Initially, Rania wanted to convert him (just to stick it to Jomorosh). Unfortunately, I think the player was going through some OOC stuff and did not respond to her. So...banned.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Logar on September 21, 2017, 08:10:08 PM
I was angling for Dominorums relocation closer to Obia, but alas things didn't quite work that way...lucky for you  ;D

Oh yes Gnaeus, of course.... although he was of Spearhold, not Dominorum.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: DeVerci on September 21, 2017, 08:16:22 PM
I think Gnaeus has been in every realm! In a way I believe Ar Agyr is partly responsible for releasing his fury on Belu since we were the first ones to ban him after he tried to steal one of Riombara's cities.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on September 21, 2017, 10:25:38 PM
Gnaeaus was General of Spearhold and later tried to rebel and take the lead after the ruler left.

Anyway, back to the realm matter Obia'Syela, I must say at first I honestly had my doubts, but I joined it on good faith because I didn't have the time to RP my char in Spearhold and it was boring so I paused her and moved my colony char to BT (1 char less to worry about) and for some reason he's become my most active char atm  ::) *

But for real, the realm is awesome, quite a lot of deverse characters already and a lot of roleplays back and forth. And JeVondair, don't worry you'll get more priests in time. I seriously think that once we're established and all it would be cool to have all Lords become priests for a period and start converting and then have most of us alternate between priests and warriors (looting !@#$, come on who doesn't like looting !@#$!), meaning you're not stuck in priest mode always.

Ps, how do you like having a psychopath with an ego in your realm?  ;D









*Might have something to do with Oligarch falling as well...meh
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on September 21, 2017, 10:49:17 PM
I'm thinking about giving a shot at priest game in Obia'Syela. If it goes well with how stuff unfolds for my character there, then why not. One of the better realms to have a priest at, I assume.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on September 21, 2017, 11:58:54 PM

Ps, how do you like having a psychopath with an ego in your realm?  ;D



Honestly I think we are all enjoying it quite a bit. Goriad II is an interesting character. He respects who he respects and couldn't be bothered for those he doesn't. I love the byplay brewing with Blint: Two lethal characters trading pointed barbs because they know Momma Rania will be upset if one or both of them got hurt. So it's a lot of fun reading you two dance around each other and I am hoping other players join in and take sides Capulet/Montague style.


I'm thinking about giving a shot at priest game in Obia'Syela. If it goes well with how stuff unfolds for my character there, then why not. One of the better realms to have a priest at, I assume.


I have several goals with this realm and whatnot, one of which is simply to grow. When I first started, SA was in full swing and I thought it was fun to watch how religion affected the politics of all Dwilight. I want to push it and see just how far we can go. Can't do it alone though! So, to encourage people to try being priesty, the theocracy's laws forbid anyone not of the faith to hold public office, including lordships and ruling council positions. In fact, with the exception of the General position, all the ruling council seats have the requirement that only priests can hold them.

So here I am, sitting here, waiting to lob titles at people :-) With those responsibilities off my shoulders, it will be a lot easier to flesh out the wiki's and get some regular sermons going. Rania is rapidly becoming my main char as well.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on September 22, 2017, 09:47:57 AM
Honestly I think we are all enjoying it quite a bit. Goriad II is an interesting character. He respects who he respects and couldn't be bothered for those he doesn't. I love the byplay brewing with Blint: Two lethal characters trading pointed barbs because they know Momma Rania will be upset if one or both of them got hurt. So it's a lot of fun reading you two dance around each other and I am hoping other players join in and take sides Capulet/Montague style.

Yeah I love the Vahanian/Goriad II conflict a lot as well.

Rania is rapidly becoming my main char as well.[/size]

Welcome to the club, !@#$ Xavax and Selenia  ::) 8)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 05, 2017, 05:52:45 PM
For anyone that is good with Wiki's a need some help. I've got all the content up there and (relatively) organized, but the tables are giving me trouble and it doesn't feel very streamlined.


I also started a writing contest for the Region description of Rines. i was surprised to find that after all this time there was nothing there! So I found a pic I thought looked about right and hopefully some players will help me out, lol.


Also, We need a LOT more adventurers. The south is rife with hordes. More nobles wouldn't be bad either. lordships for everyone! Carve out your own destiny, define a new legacy, submit to the mysticism of Obeah!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on October 05, 2017, 11:46:58 PM
Psst! More advertising JV.

*cough, cough*

Riches beyond imagination, constant strife! Internal and external conflicts! Internal and external bleeding! Mystical cult or evil cult? Or mystical evil cult even? (try reading the last one out loud, and swiflty)

Smear the peanut butter of your imagination on the receptive bread of our small but bustling community and make the ultimate story-sandwich! Make a cocktail party and serve your story-sandwich to your friends. I'm lost in my metaphores. I've been so for quite a while.


There. ;)

I'll try to make time and look at those tables but no promises.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 06, 2017, 01:02:57 AM
Psst! More advertising JV.


Obia'Syela, Beluaterra: "Come Get Swifty"
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Ketchum on October 07, 2017, 04:20:39 PM
I should have join this realm. Look like fun times here :)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Tandaros on October 13, 2017, 01:03:04 AM
Can I sign up for a tour?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 13, 2017, 03:13:41 PM
Why sure you can!


The Templar's and the Inquisition were jut arguing over who gets to roll out the red carpet for royal guests...


But seriously, we are developing a rivalry between the Templars and the Inquisition and with players like Gabanus and Blint running the show, it should be great.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 13, 2017, 05:41:28 PM
Ok, so there has been an ongoing OOC discussion in the realm as to whether and how we should differentiate between our two armies, Templars and Inquisitors..

As it stands presently, Any ordained knight of Obia'Syela is automatically accorded the honorific of Templar, however it is also extended to all knights who share the Heralds of Obeah faith. The Templars, lead by the Grand Templar [General] are collectively responsible for the defense of the realm and the expansion of its borders.

The Inquisition, on the other hand, is less defined. Originally, I had Rania found the Inquisition guild in Keffa with the idea of it becoming an international organization ruled by the islands judges [Lord Inquisitor's] to organize against the Netherworld. In Obia'Syela, however, the Inquisition has taken on a new flavor. Under the direction of Inquisitor Goriad II Gabanus, a private Inquistorial army was founded with the goal of raiding the roguelands in the south and 'punishing' the non believers beyond our borders. Since then, the conversation has refined itself. Yesterday, i and others suggested the following:

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Random thought, but what if Inquisitors were characters he specialized in swordskill?!

Think about it, it would make sense:
  • It delivers a fundamental difference between Templars and Inquisitors bc 2 diff fighting types
  • Inquisitors kill heretics right? Random chance wont do. Duels will.
  • Templars would be focused on the noble cause of defending the realm with armies, whereas inquisitors train all day
  • Gives the Inquisition a reason to be small, elite, and infiltrator-oriented. For the righteous good of all, of course...

Anyhow... I like, nay - love, nay - adore the idea of Templar Cavaliers / Inquisitor Infiltrators. Were we to go the class/army route, it would in no way infringe upon the rules or inalienable rights as players still choose their own class for their own reasons. For example, The Templars would be our large, general, standard army. The Inquisition would basically be smaller and specialized for raiding and shadow work and such. Should a player be an infiltrator, they'll most likely join the Inquisition because that would be oriented to their playstyle, etc.
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So if it goes this route, the Inquisition will become a group of players specialized in dueling and/or infiltration. These players, as inquisitorial agents and enforcers (which aren't bad names for official ranks), would seek out whomever the faith deems as heretical and neutralize them. The Inquisition's current hierarchy would change so that infiltrators (agents) and duelists (enforcers) will be just beneath Lord inquisitor's and above regional lords/title holders. They would be a smaller, selective, selective order, cherrypicking the best recruits from the Templars, which would not doubt be a source of friction between the two.

For comparison, you can see many parallels in existing fantasy like the contention between soldiers/warriors and rangers. You know? one works in groups, the other works best alone, etc. One is not necessarily better than the other, they are both different, equal, and highly leatho
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: House Drake on October 13, 2017, 06:09:37 PM
Solomon Drake, here. I really like the distinction between the two, not just because it gives players something more to strive for, but also grants the opportunity for a unique realm back story!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 13, 2017, 06:33:23 PM
Solomon Drake, here. I really like the distinction between the two, not just because it gives players something more to strive for, but also grants the opportunity for a unique realm back story!


Weclome to the forums, Drake. If you like the idea, then I encourage you to start up a an RP or two. Even better, if you want to help me generate some content for and refine the Wiki, I think we'll need to have Obia'Syela subpages for both forces
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 13, 2017, 06:54:46 PM
I know I spoke against the OOC discussion and that's not because I don't like the rivalry (duh, I started it...), but I'm against forming the culture on an OOC level.

Let's be honest, no 'honorable' knight will join the inquisition and have a good time under Goriad II and the others who joined. At the same time, no "rebel" will do well with Vahanian and the Templars, so the division is growing by itself through IC means.

I'm an advocate of letting the armies grow themselves and develop their culture rather than deciding now what it should be. I mean I can tell you know, Goriad II will just do whatever no matter what we decide here. He's a psychopath lunatic whom you guys granted titles, I mean, trust me the Inquisition is going into quite a different direction than the Templars are and more rivalry will certainly emerge.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 13, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
If only he had that super fancy GRAND INQUISITOR Title...


ah well
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 13, 2017, 08:29:55 PM
You have got to learn to have some patience  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on October 16, 2017, 07:53:17 PM
I don't think we really need anymore rivalry between the two armies. Vahanian and Goriad II are doing that quite handedly by themselves..

That being said, I don't like the idea of all knights being Templars, it gives the Templars less meaning and feels like the Inquisition is the place to be (Which it's just not :P)

Besides the General is called The Grand TEMPLAR :p
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 16, 2017, 08:03:22 PM
That being said, I don't like the idea of all knights being Templars, it gives the Templars less meaning and feels like the Inquisition is the place to be (Which it's just not :P)

Besides the General is called The Grand TEMPLAR :p

You already lost my friend  ::) Inquisition has become the elite army and thus the place to be for cool people  8)

This does make it a new goal for me though. Become General and then ask the title to be changed to Grand Inquisitor

Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on October 16, 2017, 08:59:08 PM
You already lost my friend  ::) Inquisition has become the elite army and thus the place to be for cool people  8)

This does make it a new goal for me though. Become General and then ask the title to be changed to Grand Inquisitor

LOL That would really piss Vahanian off...

NOT IF I BECOME GENERAL FIRST!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on October 16, 2017, 09:33:47 PM
hah, you both want to become general, funny people
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 16, 2017, 09:46:07 PM
LOL That would really piss Vahanian off...

NOT IF I BECOME GENERAL FIRST!

All the more reason to make it happen  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on October 17, 2017, 12:47:54 AM
On another note - why the hell rogues have to invade precisely when there's rp event in the capital? Does that suck or what? :(

About your fued - I love how it developed. I don't know if it was intended but it kind of looks as if SPOILER ALERT Goriad intentionally pushed Vahanian to challange him to a duel (cause it looks better to be challanged and kick some ass than to challange someone and kick some ass, assuming there will be any ass kicking at all) and perhaps even intentionally pushed Vahanian to step out of line with the General, that's crazy slick!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 17, 2017, 08:38:04 AM
Well I knew the duel was gonna happen someday when we started this and there will be more duels probably. Just wait for my RP on this one which I'll write up next.

As to Vahanian (Marshal) stepping out of line with Erheas (General), no I hadn't expected that tbh, but it makes for some awesome RP. Now for a mind!@#$, Goriad II is gonna stand up for Vahanian  :o
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on October 17, 2017, 03:22:40 PM
Of course he will! He's one slick son of a biscuit. I may be projecting this cause I just love when a manipulative char is well played, cause that's so damn rare, but still - good job at running this storyline.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 17, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
In the distance, low, pained groaning from Rania and Erheas
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 17, 2017, 10:14:08 PM
Well Erheas is openly bashing Vahanian now so... ::)

And Vahanian and Goriad II going against Erheas. This is the weirdest military command I've ever seen and that says a lot.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on October 17, 2017, 10:37:37 PM
It just pisses Vahanian off that Erheas is leading the army from the comfort of his city.

Vahanian in all likelihood will be ignoring all commands to stop dueling Goriad II.... Unless Rania specifically tells him he cannot duel, or a law is put in place :P

I thought of this quote today which I think is a compilation of other quotes and I intend to use it against Erheas..

"A man who will send others to die for a cause he will not fight for, can never be a true leader"
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on October 17, 2017, 10:43:01 PM
:D At least you two have a common target now...... its a start! I have a feeling though this might escalate a little bit too much for my taste
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 17, 2017, 11:53:07 PM
Why do so many people claim to be most beautiful or smartest in this realm?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 18, 2017, 12:19:04 AM
Why do so many people claim to be most beautiful or smartest in this realm?


Beautifullest, smartest realm
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on October 18, 2017, 04:52:16 AM
People want to imagine they're playing the hero/protagonist. What is forgotten is that you can't just say you're a hero, and be a hero. I find the most incredible protagonist stories in BM are those who take crazy risks and succeed.

Like King Fingolfin's legendary invasion success that resulted in Thalmarkin trying to spread his authority upon invasions throughout BT. Or the incredible survival of Eponllyn and the beginning of a turnaround with relations with Perdan...before Perdan went back to its same old lame self with Vix's help. Or the tale of the People's Republic of Avamar survival against all odds until the largest battle in BM history (up to that point, since surpassed) ended them. Or Glaumring's survival story. Or the survival of Luria Nova against an invasion by all Dwilight sans Swordfell, which Luria won and forced peace terms upon (most) of their enemies. Sint surviving in-between invasions with the nefarious reputation they acquired during invasions. And many more...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 18, 2017, 12:53:50 PM
:D At least you two have a common target now...... its a start! I have a feeling though this might escalate a little bit too much for my taste

Hehe, well Erheas did ask for it  ::) Picking a fight with two already jacked up Marshals...rookie mistake

Why do so many people claim to be most beautiful or smartest in this realm?

Because this realm has some crazy characters. Don't you like it?

People want to imagine they're playing the hero/protagonist. What is forgotten is that you can't just say you're a hero, and be a hero. I find the most incredible protagonist stories in BM are those who take crazy risks and succeed.

Like King Fingolfin's legendary invasion success that resulted in Thalmarkin trying to spread his authority upon invasions throughout BT. Or the incredible survival of Eponllyn and the beginning of a turnaround with relations with Perdan...before Perdan went back to its same old lame self with Vix's help. Or the tale of the People's Republic of Avamar survival against all odds until the largest battle in BM history (up to that point, since surpassed) ended them. Or Glaumring's survival story. Or the survival of Luria Nova against an invasion by all Dwilight sans Swordfell, which Luria won and forced peace terms upon (most) of their enemies. Sint surviving in-between invasions with the nefarious reputation they acquired during invasions. And many more...

Well first off there is a difference between what our chars think and what we do obviously, but Obia'Syela simply has some flavoured characters so to say. Kiki keeps insisting she's the most beautiful and nothing is good enough for her and is very anti peasantry for instance, makes for some nice RP's. There is some purging on the horizon for sure. But yeah, there are some great stories across BM.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on October 19, 2017, 02:55:17 AM
People want to imagine they're playing the hero/protagonist. What is forgotten is that you can't just say you're a hero, and be a hero. I find the most incredible protagonist stories in BM are those who take crazy risks and succeed.

Like King Fingolfin's legendary invasion success that resulted in Thalmarkin trying to spread his authority upon invasions throughout BT. Or the incredible survival of Eponllyn and the beginning of a turnaround with relations with Perdan...before Perdan went back to its same old lame self with Vix's help. Or the tale of the People's Republic of Avamar survival against all odds until the largest battle in BM history (up to that point, since surpassed) ended them. Or Glaumring's survival story. Or the survival of Luria Nova against an invasion by all Dwilight sans Swordfell, which Luria won and forced peace terms upon (most) of their enemies. Sint surviving in-between invasions with the nefarious reputation they acquired during invasions. And many more...

Ahhh Glaumrings survival story... Which one? The time we left the ashes of Virovene with perhaps 80 troops between two nobles and marched from Muspelheim to the Storms keep through some of the most monster infested areas of the north and founded a kingdom under the most damn near impossible odds? Then to face a tribunal of SA as a supposed heretic with the entirety of SA wanting to come and kill a newly founded realm with probably 3 knights fighting off huge hordes of monsters almost daily, aye it was glorious, unprecedented, legendary. One of the greatest and saddest of failures of a story that has ever existed. I can go on and on with stories of daring-do and skullduggery but the above one is my absolute favorite.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 19, 2017, 04:05:22 PM
Yeah....we need someone to help make this realm even more...Glaumorous...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 19, 2017, 05:05:02 PM
Nah Glaumring should never leave Dwilight. But his other chars are more than welcome  8)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 19, 2017, 06:25:10 PM
Can you imagine? Blint for the Templars, Gabanus for the Inquisition, and a Glaum for the Heralds?


The Holy Trifecta of Doom!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on October 20, 2017, 03:40:35 AM
Nah Glaumring should never leave Dwilight. But his other chars are more than welcome  8)

Akrogath of Bel is my good character, sad for Bel but I chose him to be different than the other two characters. Glaumring will never leave Dwilight, he'll die there.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 20, 2017, 10:04:23 AM
Too bad though. We could always use more mor excentric characters
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 24, 2017, 07:50:58 PM
Akrogath of Bel is my good character, sad for Bel but I chose him to be different than the other two characters. Glaumring will never leave Dwilight, he'll die there.

This is going to sound silly but until you mentioned it I hadn't realized Akrogath was yours. Hope you enjoy the Summit RP!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 24, 2017, 08:04:43 PM
Hope you guys share it with all the realms. Way too many syeps for me too climb. Some people have important duties other than sitting in the capital.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 24, 2017, 11:20:56 PM
Hope you guys share it with all the realms. Way too many syeps for me too climb. Some people have important duties other than sitting in the capital.


I'll be sure to collate the RPs and save them on the realm wiki for you and the rest of our players.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on October 25, 2017, 03:45:48 AM
This is going to sound silly but until you mentioned it I hadn't realized Akrogath was yours. Hope you enjoy the Summit RP!

Thats how differently I play each character. lol  ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 25, 2017, 04:45:59 AM
Thats how differently I play each character. lol  ;)

Nah. You are just not famous enough. I am sure one day people won't even look at your character name and just check your family name right away.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 25, 2017, 05:27:03 PM
Nah. You are just not famous enough. I am sure one day people won't even look at your character name and just check your family name right away.


I hate it when my family name gets checked. Cue Lich insults  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 25, 2017, 05:34:53 PM
Same here except for the liche thing. Some people go: "Oh it's a Gabanus again," while all my chars are very different. You can never work hidden anymore pretty much.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Dystopian on October 26, 2017, 12:06:17 AM
Be a new player :p you wont get many opportunities
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 26, 2017, 11:13:07 PM
MEANWHILE


While the Grandmistress deals with havoc surrounding the emerging Morgul Alliance, Chaos erupts among the military hierarchy as the unexpected alliance between Templar and Inquisition marshals Vahanian and Goriad II show a united front against the Grand Templar...only to be undermined themselves when their own officers voice their agreement with the Grand Templar. But that may all be in the past as both Marshals plan to join the priesthood, heralding unknown changes for both the Heralds, the Templars, the Inquisition, and even the realm as a whole.


What will come of this only the Veiled Goddess of Mysteries knows, but Her Oracle is going to have to work some JeVondair magic to keep everything together and functioning as these massive changes in the realm's hierarchy get underway :-)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 27, 2017, 07:45:09 AM
Player of Vahanian said he won't make him priest. Too bad as that would have been awesome in terms of the current RP. But Obia'Syela is lively as usual
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on October 27, 2017, 11:28:58 AM
Hm... if Vahanian doesnt become a priest than Erheas cant either as that would leave the army in Vahanians hands...

Got to love our military leadership, good thing for Rania that the vice-marshals are without ... issues...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 27, 2017, 12:31:55 PM
And why shouldn't the military go to Vahanian?  :D Erheas would make  fine banker and we'd end up with a government who doesn't like each other, sounds perfect to me.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 27, 2017, 04:26:16 PM
So many different and powerful personalities...I've had an easier time herding actual kittens. Just a s fun tho  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anaris on October 27, 2017, 04:27:35 PM
I doubt the powerful personalities are nearly as adorable, though.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 27, 2017, 05:55:15 PM
I doubt the powerful personalities are nearly as adorable, though.



Rania: G2 like an abused puppy...


Erheas: A lethal, borderline homicidally manic abused puppy...


Vanhanian: An insubordinate runt of the litter you mean...


Rania: PUPPY
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 27, 2017, 09:17:45 PM
A wounded puppy I might add
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 27, 2017, 11:30:08 PM
I can't keep up with this realm. XD
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 28, 2017, 11:11:18 AM
I can't keep up with this realm. XD

Hehe, is that a good or bad thing?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 31, 2017, 12:26:14 PM
Damn, 120 unread messages and still seriously wounded (beter said, again, since he went from wounded to serious, to wounded again and now seriously wounded again) so I'm afraid this number will only grow and that's despite me reading what I can in between xD
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on October 31, 2017, 12:41:23 PM
G2 took a stale cookie from a cookie jar and now has to suffer through it. :P

Honestly thought - that's pretty much my experience with bm last several weeks - being wounded. Especially on EC.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on October 31, 2017, 12:44:49 PM
He tried to steal one, but they stopped him and cut him in the chest. At first I was happy he was wounded and not captured, now I'm not so sure hehe.

Goriad II is collecting scars, not gonna be prettyer this way and he still doesn't have a wife. He has to hurry now hhe  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 06, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
Realm Update:


The Trifecta Treaty has been finalized and proposed
The Heralds of Obeah now sport multiple priests whom I'll have to promote as soon as I get to a temple.
Armies of rogues 10k strong are wandering the southern wilderness, but the Templars will put them down.
A good amount of roleplays are happening.
The First Grand Templar, Glidre, has returned


Literally no one trusts Angmar.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gildre on November 07, 2017, 12:02:59 AM
;) Long live the Inquisition!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 08, 2017, 08:30:48 PM
Meanwhile, Rania on the ruler's chanel...


(http://i.imgur.com/lbvBoA4.gif)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 09, 2017, 03:50:15 PM
;) Long live the Inquisition!

All hail the Grand Inquisitor
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Nosferatus on November 09, 2017, 04:56:10 PM
Is Angmar gone yet?  :o

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l41m3CgTJJZcI54NW/giphy.gif)

scary Angmar...  >:(
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 09, 2017, 07:17:58 PM
I like that gif more than I should, lol.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Bronnen on November 09, 2017, 10:34:00 PM
Lol what's happening now?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 09, 2017, 11:46:28 PM
Lol what's happening now?


There is a lot of restructuring going on atm. We've been kind of struggling to find definition that differentiates Templars from Inquisitors while nursing a healthy rivalry. But it feels a lot like riding a mechanical bull and trying not to fall off. Lots of strong personalities with strong opinions.


Meanwhile, in the Ruler's channel, not a thing was broadcasted today, but Rania is pleased where things appear to be going.

There is a critical referendum occurring in Fronen that concerns the fate of Obia'Syela, but Doge Akrogath is a big fan of being terse.


On the plus side the faith is growing. There are more priests and members across more realms than ever before, many of whom have chosen to contribute to the wiki, which I am thrilled with.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on November 10, 2017, 12:47:58 AM

There is a lot of restructuring going on atm. We've been kind of struggling to find definition that differentiates Templars from Inquisitors while nursing a healthy rivalry. But it feels a lot like riding a mechanical bull and trying not to fall off. Lots of strong personalities with strong opinions.


Meanwhile, in the Ruler's channel, not a thing was broadcasted today, but Rania is pleased where things appear to be going.

There is a critical referendum occurring in Fronen that concerns the fate of Obia'Syela, but Doge Akrogath is a big fan of being terse.

On the plus side the faith is growing. There are more priests and members across more realms than ever before, many of whom have chosen to contribute to the wiki, which I am thrilled with.

My mouth has gotten me in trouble before so I keep myself in check, plus Akrogath is a bit more terse than Glaumring is.  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 10, 2017, 01:31:45 PM
My mouth has gotten me in trouble before so I keep myself in check, plus Akrogath is a bit more terse than Glaumring is.  ;D


I do miss mouthy Glaum. You play Akro like the exact opposite, lol
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 10, 2017, 01:35:28 PM
Aye, Glaumring's shenanigans will forever hold a place in our hearts.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 10, 2017, 02:56:58 PM
Lol what's happening now?

Obia'Syela is splitting up more and more and while the endgoal is the same, the schism is real. Goriad II is Judge now, beware!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 10, 2017, 05:49:56 PM
If G2 keeps trying for so much so quickly, He'll find that he'll likely bite off more than he can chew  ;)


But yes, there was a military restructure in the realm that some players took personal exception to. The decision was made entirely IG at the highest levels. Rania, as a character, believes in Order through Hierarchy. In governance, if she has a problem or a question, she relies on her closest advisors - those higher up the foodchain - to field them rather than cluttering realm discussion more than she already does. In this case, the Grand Templar, whom she's given total jurisdiction over the military, has been asking for an army merger for almost a month now and Rania, after G2 became a priest and eligible for the Grand Inquisitor slot, ran out of excuses as the GT made increasingly better arguments (which I think we all acknowledge by this point).


I will go on to say that Rania keeps a sort of achievements mental ledger of everyone in the realm, so when she endorsed the recommendation for Boltgan to be Marshal over Solomon, it was because Boltgan was the senior officer in every way. Of course, I recognize how Rania's endorsement, and indeed the army mergy in general, could b seen as her favoring the Templars over Inquisitors (and I should probably start roleplaying favor towards one group or the other now) but the decisions were logic driven with a mind to realm cohesiveness. As a player, i hoped that promoting G2 to Grand Inquisitor prior to the army merger would have been seen as more tit-for-tat, to say nothing of her asking Vahanian Blint to step down as Marshal.

Rania is not a tyrannical ruler like Selenia was, nor is her control as unquestioned as Rynn's was. With every decision Rania makes, there were likely 2 to 3 comprises she had to make just to keep things balanced between the Templars, Heralds, and the Inquisition. I'm having fun with this balancing act, but it takes a lot.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: House Drake on November 10, 2017, 07:53:45 PM
I understood that the change was coming. It was inevitable, since it doesn't make sense for a small realm that just got its feet under it to have two armies. xD *cough*COMPENSATING*cough*
It was just that it happened so abruptly. There was no discussion or at least forewarning, so I was taken aback.

Boltgan is definitely more experienced in command than me, or at the very least he's more knowledgeable, and so I was actually (don't hate me for saying this, G2!) relieved that I was not promoted to Marshal. But I pushed for split-command duties because of two reasons, one being the in-game atmosphere. The rivalry. What kind of man would Solomon be if he just accepted a place under the armpit of a Templar?! xD

Solomon also deserved a chance to help command because he earned it. He worked his buns off.

And it worked out well! ^_^ Boltgan was totally cool about it (wish I knew the player's name), and split the duties with me so that he commands the day turns and I command the night turns. This also gives me a great opportunity to learn and sharpen my skills. Like I said, I'm definitely not on the same playing field as him yet, but this gives me the chance to get there.

Lastly, I work two jobs in real life and am a full-time college student with a 4.0 GPA that I'm constantly battling to maintain, so I don't have a ton of free time, but the little bit of free time I get I spend on Battlemaster. If I don't have time, I make time, because Obia'Syela (not to get all mushy here) is probably one of the funnest, realest gaming atmospheres I've found in a long time. It is genuinely important to me. I spend more time on Solomon than I do any of my other characters, even though I've had them longer.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 10, 2017, 07:59:35 PM
*applauds* That's what we like to hear! Gonna have to get in on this one, perhaps. Such fun to be had.

Save me a heretic to skin, will ya?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on November 10, 2017, 10:19:56 PM
I like Solomon. He reminds me of some of my favourite deadpan/literal fellows from books and movies. It's hard to get me laugh but when Jarra joked to Solomon about the need for teal paper when someone wants to write a report and request together in one letter and he took it literally, dutifully replying that he'll look into it I genuinely chuckled.

But still, Shawna, keep in mind that you started out in Vix and got used to every decision being discussed with the whole realm. It's not like that in most of the realms. Feudal rule, pecking order and all that. There will still be a boatload of entertaining experience for you in Obia'Syela though, I'm certain of it. Almost every player/character there plans something, has some goals, plays some angles and many of those plans/goals/angles include other players/characters. The ratio of those who create/contribute to flow of events to those who drift with the flow of events is exceptionally high here, higher than any other realm I've seen.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 11, 2017, 12:40:14 AM
For G2 this was a matter of show of force. As he's building the Inquisition it's important the movement isn't destroyed but instead maintains power. Plus he was genuinly unhappy that people tried to sabotage his efforts without so much as a word.

As a player I only saw the logic of this move and know G2's shenanigans earned him this.

But Erheas and Rania forgot about one thing though and Solomon is the only one who knows what I mean hehe :) In due time you might find out, but not yet.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: House Drake on November 11, 2017, 01:49:57 AM
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I like Solomon

Yay! <: D Thank you! ^_^

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when Jarra joked to Solomon about the need for teal paper when someone wants to write a report and request together in one letter and he took it literally, dutifully replying that he'll look into it

I thought you might like that. xD I made sure it totally went over his head.

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But Erheas and Rania forgot about one thing though and Solomon is the only one who knows what I mean hehe

Yes, yes indeed he does!

(https://i.imgflip.com/s3nnr.jpg?a419280)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 11, 2017, 02:53:05 PM

guys, I've got it. I've got the perfect metaphor!


Knights-Templar = Gryffindor/Hufflepuff
Agents-Inquisitor = Slytherin/Ravenclaw
Heralds of Obeah = Professors


Boom. I've done it. I've solved Obia'Syela. I'm the best...around...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 11, 2017, 07:27:52 PM
Hmm, Actually, that does kind of work. Sort of.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 11, 2017, 08:21:20 PM
Sort off, except the Inquisitors are the cool kids here who save the day 8)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 11, 2017, 08:42:03 PM
Hey, we should probably fix the Daimon page up. About to put those damn Daemon names in alphabetical order >_> It stops at the fifth invasion, why not add the others too?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: House Drake on November 11, 2017, 08:59:19 PM
It's extra funny for me because I'm a Ravenclaw on an HP roleplay site. xD

Random side note: Solomon only has four hours this turn for some reason. I keep calculating and thinking he should have five, and I can't for the life of me figure out where the extra hour went...? He had 11 hours the previous turn (because they were full, and then the battle in Avengmil only took 1), and travel to Ardmore (after some complications) took 11. So the turn changes and he should've gotten 8 fresh hours (right?). He arrives in Ardmore, where the battle lasts for 2 hours, and then he shared 1 scout report. By my count he should have five hours right now....?

Does being slightly wounded suck up hours during healing?

Also, I agree with Crypt. I went to read the page a few days ago to get the updates story on Beluaterra, but the page hadn't been updated....well, a while. xD
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 11, 2017, 09:03:46 PM
Could use some help filling in the blanks. Its been a long time since I romped around Riombara...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 11, 2017, 09:16:25 PM
Pretty sure lightly wounded gives you fewer hours.

And I already have enough on my plate with the J
Inquisition, not gonna update the daimon stuff hehe
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 11, 2017, 09:27:37 PM
I'll handle it, just expect inquisitive interrogation to unveil data I can't find elsewhere. :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: House Drake on November 11, 2017, 10:42:16 PM
I'll be gone most of today running errands, but later tonight or early tomorrow I can try to track down players who are still around that were present for the invasions and see if any of them can fill in some of the blanks?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 12, 2017, 11:19:04 AM
Obia'Syela now second largest realm in terms of nobles

(https://i.imgflip.com/1z8im3.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1z8im3) (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 12, 2017, 02:28:43 PM
20+ nobles might be a big deal on the mainland, but where we are? Not nearly enough. We still have all those rogue regions to reclaim and enlighten, colony realms to found, culture to forge. Realistically we could make every noble into a regional lord and STILL not have enough people to resettle the south.


I need more blood
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 12, 2017, 02:37:43 PM
I'm still not very convinced that we should do that in the first place. Maybe one realm towards Shattered Vales and leave it at that. The real conflict also for Obia'Syela is up north in due time. Think of continent density etc.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 12, 2017, 04:18:25 PM
The mainland's wars offer no real threat to us. I am thinking ahead to the next daimonic invasion. There's a reason we have so much room to expand. Far better, then, to be prepared.


Besides, I have seen too often how isolated realms die a slow death. far better, to my mind, to literally make some new friends.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 12, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Isolist realms often die a swift death because they do nothing and thus grow boring to the characters there who then move away. I would not propose to not interfere with 'mainland' matters, in stead I would actively interfere. Making a bunch of 'friends'  in the south won't create any additional value unless they end up fighting each other, for in the end you simply split up your nobility, but add no true opportunities as you'll still have no wars and dynamics etc.

In stead I'd suggest to continue with the faith, leave regions like Irombro rogue, but maybe add one colony between Obia'Syela and the Shattered Valed and in turns you can choose to raid AA etc, you can move in to attack Nothoi, or simply protect your allies.

Due to it's position I don't see Obia'Syela being a standard realm in terms of what you can do with war, but the reason it's so unique is because of the culture and the RP. Focus more on that, keep the realm alive, adding 3 micro realms in the south won't help that much I think, especially not if they're friends.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on November 12, 2017, 11:11:55 PM
If we split up the core of nobles that we have in Obia to create new realms I fear that it all will just be a bit meh. Rather keep us where we are with a good core of players and just deploy armies rather than realms abroad.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 13, 2017, 12:44:56 AM
Or, do all of that while trying something truly revolutionary: don't make a standard micro-realm. Make a specialist realm that serves as the long-arm of Obeah. ;) (somewhere down the road, or now, or whenever. More variety!) As long as we have the faith and the guilds (inquisitors, etc), we can all communicate as if we were in the same realm. Except, a micro-realm does have certain benefits not afforded to a large realm with high density and many mouths to feed. Namely, the ability to engage in extra-diplomatic activities, rummage around places they shouldn't usually be without immediately compromising the theocratic realm as a whole, housing assassins and spies in a place that can shield them from wary eyes and perhaps even recruit them... So on and so forth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition) Los profetas oscuros no ha esperado el tribunal del santo oficio de la inquisicion! Muerte a los hereticos y agentes diabolicos de caos! ;)

Those from Might&Fealty may recognize some of these:

Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 13, 2017, 08:47:12 AM
What would be the advantage of doing this in small realms rather than have subdivisions in one or 2 realms?

The only true advantage I can see is holding more regions total and have a bit more gold? Tbh, to me that would be very poor reasons to focus south rather than north
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 13, 2017, 02:46:33 PM
Never said anything about focusing north, btw, nor doing any of this right now. Simply put, because we all know how swiftly a minority gets thrown under the bus. :P Thinking in the long-term... Come the next invasion or two, if Obia'Syela "wins", we'll become a super-blob of theocratic stability (and thus boring). Providing opportunities for disgrunted Obia'Syelani to have their own brand of fun, rather than move to other realms or continents, may help us along the way. Cause we all know not everyone has as much fun as they first think, or once did. Retention is a big problem as soon as we're not a fancy new concept being fleshed out, and there will always be players who like kicking the hornet's nest, so to speak. Hell, whenever we get some "undesireables" (its bound to happen) just start a prison colony buffer zone for all it matters. We all know how that went for the British in Australia :P Small realms grow into large realms when opportunity allows.

All I'm saying is, I want to see this realm's concept and culture still boom in 2020 and beyond. :) With all our eggs in one basket we may have more bodies to throw around, but somewhere down the road it'd be wise to consider "giving birth" to a few break-off concept realms to seed the world beyond our borders, and keep the spirit alive in refreshingly new ways.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 13, 2017, 05:19:56 PM
I want it to bloom also or I wouldn't put this amount of effort into it, but I disagree that more small realms in the south bring more fun. In stead Obia'Syela in my mind should seed maybe one and focus her attention on the north in the future. As to undesirables, we're filled with them, that's part of what makes it fun. We will have multiole factioms, but that doesn't necessarily have to be divided up in realms to make it possible as the realm allows just about anything.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on November 13, 2017, 06:13:59 PM
Problem with creating new realms is that they tend to take the more actives leaving only the established/rather inactive nobles behind. Rather make other realms your puppet instead of creating colonies, than the original player base in a realm can stay and further conflict is ensured.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 13, 2017, 06:20:18 PM
Precisely as D'este stated, a single puppet realm would be nice. Definitely not seeding colonies this way and that. Lets leave that for when priests convert enough members of a foreign realm that we consume it from within. ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 13, 2017, 08:35:57 PM
I feel like nobody read the treaty  :-X


I thought about what might happen if Rania got her way and the south were fully colonized and unified. Even realms of the same faith and origin develope problems. So I wrote the following...



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The Trifecta: Article VII States...
Total War between Signatory States shall be absolutely forbidden. In the case of irreconcilable differences, Belligerent States must submit a credible Cassus Belli (to be judged by Trifecta and/or Herald Leadership), and specific goals. In the event of a Declaration of War between Signatory States, it is generally understood that said War will only have a period of 3 months, or 90 days, to be resolved at the risk of directed intervention from signatory members at the direction of Trifecta Leadership towards the purpose of ending said war in the swiftest possible manner.



Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 13, 2017, 09:11:49 PM
I did read it, and I still wrote the above (read it carefully  ;))
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 13, 2017, 09:23:24 PM
I did read it, and I still wrote the above (read it carefully  ;) )


At least someone did, i worked hard on that alphabet soup  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 13, 2017, 09:50:32 PM
Hmm. Do you think maybe that bit is *why* some refused, OOC-wise at least? Treaties banning war just end up with a bunch of bored realms doing nothing, unfortunately. Not that I mind, but some players live for the PvP aspect.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on November 13, 2017, 10:24:17 PM
Yea, as a player I am not in favor of that kind of treaties as well, war should be allowed as long as it doesnt lead to the destruction of realms (well normally).
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Renodin on November 13, 2017, 10:54:50 PM
You guys still need an additional thug?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 13, 2017, 11:07:11 PM
You guys still need an additional thug?


We call them 'Templars' or 'Inquisitors' here  ;)  But yes, we do need more. We are also very short on adventurers imho.


As for the treaty, it is coached in the language of a few mutual defense pacts I studied. Naturally, that won't leave much room for signatories to fight each other. Fortunately, this is Beluaterra, and island that is subjected to Daimonic invasions with fair regularity. The treaty is made with that in mind, in addition to other potential threats. That said, I doubt that players in these signatory realms will have very much time to be bored, at least not for long.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Dystopian on November 14, 2017, 04:35:44 AM
You'll be hearing of Fronen's concerns shortly, this is a starkly Obian alliance with little thought put into the pressure being put on Fronen by signing it.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 14, 2017, 11:02:20 PM
All of you together might be more than I can handle  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Bronnen on November 15, 2017, 02:24:44 PM
Josiah really doesnt like obia. He's going to use all his influence to ensure fronen doesnt sign unless it's as obia as a tributary.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on November 15, 2017, 05:21:41 PM
Josiah really doesnt like obia. He's going to use all his influence to ensure fronen doesnt sign unless it's as obia as a tributary.


Aww what's not to like? We're delightful!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Bronnen on November 15, 2017, 06:21:48 PM
Who knows. Well i do but you don't!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 15, 2017, 06:52:41 PM
Heh. The irony. Just started playing "Inquisitor", an awesome old-school RPG from the late-2000s. Totally reminds me of Belluaterra and Obia'Syela, Templar-Inquisitor feud and all. Glorious stuff, and good inspiration. :) I wouldn't be surprised if it, or something of the sort, inspired someone else here.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on November 15, 2017, 08:21:10 PM
Never heard of it tbh, what's it about?

And my last RP, acceptable or over the line?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on November 15, 2017, 09:11:35 PM
Entirely acceptable in my opinion.

EDIT:

As in - you are miles away from crossing the line.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on November 16, 2017, 04:04:47 AM
Inquisitor?

Quote
Its an old school rpg version of Baldur's Gate meets Belluaterra/ObiSye. Demon invasion, theocratic holy order, fight between templars and inquisitors, and shenanigans. So many shenanigans. Sort of like if we stuck Obia in Diablo II crossed with Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall and Baldur's Gate thrown in for good measure.

Made by some guys from the Czech republic in the late 2000s, then finally got translated into English in 2012. Plenty of good lets plays on youtube. For the time, the graphics and gameplay were incredible. The environmental sounds are glorious, alignment/magic/loot/crafting system rocks, and the trees wave in the breeze. They WAVE.

Anyway, fanboying too much. Back to Obeah's glorious charge.

PURGE ZE HERETICS! I mean, glory be to Obeah.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 01, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
Question: There's obviously been a lot of chatter about things in the realm. The hottest topic being in regards to Templars Vs Inquisitors. However, a decision that will have a more immediate impact is what to do with all of this territory we'eve enlightened. One camp says keep all the land and make duchies. The other says we should start founding new realms based around the cities we've laid claim to.


With 23 nobles for our current 10 regions, we could certainly start doing the latter. But I kind of like looking on the realmstat page and seeing that our numbers closely rival the powerhouse that is Nothoi. Thus, I'm torn.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on December 01, 2017, 08:28:25 PM
Question: There's obviously been a lot of chatter about things in the realm. The hottest topic being in regards to Templars Vs Inquisitors. However, a decision that will have a more immediate impact is what to do with all of this territory we'eve enlightened. One camp says keep all the land and make duchies. The other says we should start founding new realms based around the cities we've laid claim to.


With 23 nobles for our current 10 regions, we could certainly start doing the latter. But I kind of like looking on the realmstat page and seeing that our numbers closely rival the powerhouse that is Nothoi. Thus, I'm torn.

Personally, I think end goal is split into separate realms.. but as it stands now I don't think those realms would survive let alone thrive. I think we need to establish cities/duchies that have decent production and food supplies before tossing them to the ether.. My vote is for us to remain as one realm for now and build up until we feel we can create a realm that isn't going to wither and die, or become a burden on Obia'Syella.

On a separate note, I had a thought today. What if we encounter a player/player(s) that don't like or don't want to participate in the religion aspect of the game? We can't - I don't think - tell them to F*ck off and go find another realm.. at least I would feel bad about doing that.. So my question is how would we handle that IC? I imagine G2 would want to burn them at the stake and eat them for dinner...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 01, 2017, 08:54:56 PM
I'm glad you asked, because we already have the answer built in to Obian society: The Sacred Realm is a theocracy, therefore anyone is not a member of the church are likewise forbidden from holding office. That is, any office. No lordships, no marshalships, and certainly no ruling council seats. These knights are effectively second class citizens and will be treated accordingly. If the player(s) don't like being treated as such, then it is their choice to either join the temple or find some other place to call home.


We do not have the right to tell players how to play. Similarly, we are not obligated to make any special accommodations.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on December 02, 2017, 12:11:00 AM
What if we encounter a player/player(s) that don't like or don't want to participate in the religion aspect of the game? We can't - I don't think - tell them to F*ck off and go find another realm.. at least I would feel bad about doing that.. So my question is how would we handle that IC? I imagine G2 would want to burn them at the stake and eat them for dinner...

Nonsense! We both know that he would eat them raw and still alive, and then burn what's left.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on December 04, 2017, 08:08:09 AM
Mmmm. Apostate Bacon?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on December 04, 2017, 10:35:09 PM
So I didn't want to lose track of this discussion and thought it would be best to move towards the forums.

Recently in OS JeVondair posted this:
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Out-of-Character from Rania Eastersand JeVondair(3 days, 2 hours ago)
message to all nobles of Obia'Syela

Ok y’all, so I’ve been thinking on the various critiques offered publicly and privately regarding the confusing system of titles between the realm and the three organizations Obian society has been built upon. Someone, I forget who, suggested a unified title system so as limit confusion.

PROPOSED TITLE CHANGES


 ==Elder Rank==
•Guild Leader:            Arch Herald/Templar/ Inquisitor -OR- Herald/Templar/Inquisitor Archon
•Ruling Councilors: High Herald, High Templar, High Inquisitor

==Full Rank==
•Regional Lords:       Lord Herald/Templar/Inquisitor
•Knights:                      Herald/Templar/Inquisitor

=Entry Rank==
•Adventurers:             Initiate

I am not locked on these, per se, but I figured this would be a good platform to start the conversation. Do you agree with this list or have suggestions to contribute? Please do! All are welcome. Once we get a consensus, I’ll make it official

While I see how that "could" be useful, I have to express my firm and unyielding disagreement with this notion in the case of Obia'Syela. I think unifying titles and, in essence, mandating that each organization (in this case, The Heralds, Inquisition, and Templars) must have similar titles/naming conventions kills the creativity and uniqueness of the groups. We have separate groups for a reason, forcing them into a similarity, in my mind almost defeats the purpose of the different groups. I really don't want to come off as childish here, but were we to "mandate" this.. I can see Vahanian, as a character, and myself as a player, losing interest in the different organizations. I understand that we are getting a little.. "excited" with our titles and so I am all for looking at revamping the nomenclature we use, but I think mandating a uniformity across the three groups is a terrible idea.

Myself and a few others have worked hard on developing a culture in the Templar order and establishing a "ruling council" that works similar to the Roman Senate for the order, whereas I imagine the Inquisition is structured differently. I think that is a special attribute of the groups that we should maintain, as there is already a rivalry among them, and conflict drives great storytelling.. Unifying them diminishes (in my mind) some of that conflict.

I also have a feeling that as soon as we get the groups wiki pages up and running (I am working on the Templars and I think the Heralds and Inquisition already have a pretty good foundation) that some of the confusion can be mitigated by pointing players to the wikis where they can read through the different organizations, their ranks and so on.

There has been some discussion in game via OOC chat about this topic, but it seems like it may have fallen to the wayside.. wanted to bring it back up because I think it's an important discussion to have. I would love to hear others thoughts/opinions.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on December 04, 2017, 10:58:12 PM
What the problem at this moment is are the double meanings of ranks. In the church erheas is a high Templar, which is the rank of the Templar leader in the Templar order. The grand Templar council role in the rank, is the rank for rulers in the church. Stuff like that makes that there need to be some uniformity between the ranks, in the sense that they don't mean something different in every organisation.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 05, 2017, 12:15:52 AM
Fun fact: Military branches had the same issues with naming conventions for ranks when new branches (navy, air force, etc.) came into service.




soooooooo I don't wanna see anyone blaming ME for not thinking far enough ahead!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on December 05, 2017, 01:10:59 AM
You're not some measly military, you're JeVondair! Have some standards damnit!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on December 05, 2017, 02:35:28 AM
    Clearly we're caught between two distinct branches of thought: Mechanical Uniformity and Organic Decentralization. Both have unique merits and vulnerabilities.

    It may seem innocuous but experience has shown many a veteran how titles carry meaning and intent beyond conscious design. Clever minds can and will use every tool, situation, and word at their disposal to uplift or denounce the veracity, influence, and reputation of said titles. Sometimes these clever word-games become canon; whether foreign or domestic.

    For example, note the complex attitudes, widespread rumors, mythical legends, spiteful foreign propaganda, and domestic humor that resulted from the "Lich-Queen" bit about Xerarch Selenia JeVondair of Xavax. A single word, "Lich", which continues to evolve and be applied in numerous ways to both deify and slander a woman, a culture, a people, and now, one of the realms they inhabit. Its truly quite genius, and a hallmark of roleplayers' skill in propagandist wordplay. There's a reason why many modern-day intelligence agents are Dungeons & Dragons types rather than your stereotypical buff bravado-filled spy novel protag/antag. The ability to communicate complex ideas custom-tailored to the viewer's perspective is a powerful tool... Arguably the most powerful tool in the arsenal of Humankind.

In many ways our choice defines both perspective and behavior for generations to come.

Do we strive for a more orderly centralized federalist approach with uniform titles, ranks, and methodology?

Or do we purposely infuse our factions with individual flair, variable personality, and deviation from the norm?

It all depends on our long-term goals according to the vision of both the Faith/realm's Founders and the successive generations of character personalities who call it their own.

I'd love to look back at this thread a year-or-three from now and see how it all played out! Xavax was one hell of a psychological experiment and look how that turned out. JV and I used every trick in the book, and I personally spent long nights researching potential additions to the Xavax concept and its proposed off-shoot sub-realms. (which never came to be, unfortunately.) Every vital mechanism of early Xavax was discussed both publicly and privately, IC and OOC, with various individuals and factions who each presented and preferred alternate proposals of cultural, religious, and strategic identity. Despite quite a few purposeful handicaps thrown in for good measure, (because a perfect template is the opposite of entertaining!) our fun little thought-project turned into a long-standing militant theo-culture that people alternately love-hate across the continents - a tale of strife and betrayal, vision and passion, expansion and isolation, brotherhood and rivalry, and so much more. Despite starting Xavax as a sneaky way to build a multi-party storyboard for a story I was writing, it evolved into so much more than I - or likely JV - had ever dreamed.

I have absolutely no doubt that Obia'Syela will achieve such a level of infamy and complexity, if not more.

"Love us er hate us, our name's on the tip o' yer tongue... And 'at is the greatest honor you can b'stow upon our people. Thank you for thinking of us all these years. Friend or foe, we wouldn't have made it without you." ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on December 05, 2017, 07:23:42 AM
I must agree with Blint here. I'm much in favor of not dictating things ooc too much. The chaos actually adds to the fun I think to a certain degree and 'organized chaos' is how I planned to lead the Inquisition.

*Note to JeVondair, you still have to hand over controll of the guild for that matter... I can't even do a thing atm

Another option would be is to add some titles to the church and make a separation between the two as well. Those faithfull becoming Inquisitors will also be inquisitors in the church and same with Templars. That should solve 90% of the confusion I think.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 05, 2017, 01:35:58 PM
*Note to JeVondair, you still have to hand over control of the guild for that matter... I can't even do a thing atm


Rania made G2 an elder, did she not? If so, there should be only two things he can't do.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 05, 2017, 01:37:05 PM
Another option would be is to add some titles to the church and make a separation between the two as well. Those faithfull becoming Inquisitors will also be inquisitors in the church and same with Templars. That should solve 90% of the confusion I think.


Would you mind expanding on this further? I, for one, am all ears
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on December 05, 2017, 03:13:10 PM
What the problem at this moment is are the double meanings of ranks. In the church erheas is a high Templar, which is the rank of the Templar leader in the Templar order. The grand Templar council role in the rank, is the rank for rulers in the church. Stuff like that makes that there need to be some uniformity between the ranks, in the sense that they don't mean something different in every organisation.

I think rather than changing the government and guild titles, changing the religious ones makes more sense. Especially since we started moving away from referring to all OS nobles as 'Templars' and instead calling them the Enlightened.

Which I think might be what Gabanus is getting at..
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 05, 2017, 05:55:55 PM
Liiiike changing "Templar" to "Enlightened"?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on December 05, 2017, 06:33:09 PM
I think Gabanus ment that he can't do anything in the Inquisition guild. Inquisition guild is pretty much dead atm and for no reason as there's[b ] huge[/b] need for inquisitors to organize themselves.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on December 05, 2017, 07:26:11 PM
@JeVondair

Especially since we started moving away from referring to all OS nobles as 'Templars' and instead calling them the Enlightened.

I gave you credit for that.. But also, I think reworking faith titles might be more effective then changing inquisition & Templars & heralds.

Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 07, 2017, 01:14:43 AM
@JeVondair

I gave you credit for that.. But also, I think reworking faith titles might be more effective then changing inquisition & Templars & heralds.


Np. Please let me know if you have any suggestions.


In the meantime... RUMBLES... :o 8) ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anderfhstim on December 07, 2017, 01:51:11 AM
Unfortunately this realm really wasn't for me. Not a fan of theocracy. Already have a character in one and it is super annoying.

But I've been recommending people this realm since I heard it has a lot of RP going on. Hope that is true.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on December 07, 2017, 04:50:20 AM
It had a LOT of RP, and not just RP but damn GOOD RP.

Well... Sometiimes damn-evil RP for those who use the theocracy bit to be douches, but we welcome all RP. :)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anderfhstim on December 07, 2017, 04:56:49 AM
Not a fan of reading walls of text with yellow background. I don't mind short witty ones but most of RPs I got were way too long with too much details.

It is like being a difference between a casual player vs a hardcore player. The level of RP of that realm was just too hardcore for me.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 07, 2017, 06:42:35 AM
The attack failed,  Rania, was captured. Although her heroic powers allowed her to escape immediately
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on December 07, 2017, 07:25:26 AM
The attack failed,  Rania, was captured. Although her heroic powers allowed her to escape immediately

I checked in 10 mins too late...got captured as well
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: steelabjur@aol.com on December 07, 2017, 08:06:04 AM
*Drawulf whistles to himself while sharpening his iron pokers*

 ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 07, 2017, 03:13:01 PM
So they captured all three of us at the same time? What exactly effects this mechanic bc priests walked through Xavax like it was nothing.


I'm actually, physically pouting rn.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on December 07, 2017, 03:17:25 PM
Hm interesting, there was almost a moment where the inquisition would have been in charge with Rania captured and Erheas wounded...

As for those who think we only RP, there is also plenty of fighting going on with the related struggles....
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: steelabjur@aol.com on December 07, 2017, 04:15:34 PM
So they captured all three of us at the same time? What exactly effects this mechanic bc priests walked through Xavax like it was nothing.


I'm actually, physically pouting rn.

Militia picked up you and Kiki, I gave a warning to my fellows when I saw you two drop in my dungeon and Goriad was arrested conventionally.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 07, 2017, 04:59:19 PM
Bah, it sucks for us. If I'd known the chance for capture was so high, I'd have planned something else. Are amphibious landings of any kind just anathema between realms at war? bc I remember Archibald just waltzing through Xavax like he owned the place.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on December 07, 2017, 05:06:10 PM
Bah, it sucks for us. If I'd known the chance for capture was so high, I'd have planned something else. Are amphibious landings of any kind just anathema between realms at war? bc I remember Archibald just waltzing through Xavax like he owned the place.

He was probably riding his donkey  ;D

Anyway, yeah this sucks. I wonder if they can take our scrolls? That would make it extremely sick.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: steelabjur@aol.com on December 07, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
Bah, it sucks for us. If I'd known the chance for capture was so high, I'd have planned something else. Are amphibious landings of any kind just anathema between realms at war? bc I remember Archibald just waltzing through Xavax like he owned the place.

I'm under the impression that sea landings in the regions of hostile realms are generally a bad idea if you're not packing along a good-sized group of soldiers.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 07, 2017, 05:33:20 PM
I'm under the impression that sea landings in the regions of hostile realms are generally a bad idea if you're not packing along a good-sized group of soldiers.


I suppose so. I actually thought that there'd be a smaller chance of interception without soldiers. guess I was wrong.


Oh well, onto plan B.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: House Drake on December 08, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
I have no idea what's going on, Solomon is injured, East Continent is going in circles, MT has left, RL life is hell -
HELL

On the plus-side, I'm going to get poptarts and do homework and not care. xD
Also, I have a feeling that Obia'Syela and Solomon are going to be my main place and character soon, if not my only one.

Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on December 08, 2017, 05:18:09 AM
I have no idea what's going on, Solomon is injured, East Continent is going in circles, MT has left, RL life is hell -
HELL

On the plus-side, I'm going to get poptarts and do homework and not care. xD
Also, I have a feeling that Obia'Syela and Solomon are going to be my main place and character soon, if not my only one.

D'aww, keep the faith brother.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on December 12, 2017, 10:42:22 PM
Meanwhile.....

Vahanian is working slowly to have Astros brutally murdered in broad daylight.....
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 12, 2017, 10:58:27 PM
On the plus-side, I'm going to get poptarts


I am grossly susceptible to bribes...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: House Drake on December 19, 2017, 08:52:30 AM

I am grossly susceptible to bribes...

It's the power of the poptarts. We all have that kryptonite. xD

Also, we finally heard back about my fiance's MRI. He needs brain surgery, which we suspected. Our doctor is looking for a neurosurgeon who will do the operation, but we might have to go to Seattle or out of state. I also don't know what kind of recovery we'll be looking at, so if I have to pause Solomon I'll hopefully be able to let you guys know ahead of time. Don't think it'll come to that, but better to be prepared.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on December 19, 2017, 11:31:57 AM
*hugs*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: House Drake on December 19, 2017, 12:19:35 PM
*hugs*

Aw thank you! <3 <:D I was not expecting that! ^_^
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Bronnen on December 19, 2017, 03:07:41 PM
!@#$ty. My sister just passed away 3 weeks ago due to brain cancer. Hopefully it's not that.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on December 19, 2017, 03:11:15 PM
It's the power of the poptarts. We all have that kryptonite. xD

Also, we finally heard back about my fiance's MRI. He needs brain surgery, which we suspected. Our doctor is looking for a neurosurgeon who will do the operation, but we might have to go to Seattle or out of state. I also don't know what kind of recovery we'll be looking at, so if I have to pause Solomon I'll hopefully be able to let you guys know ahead of time. Don't think it'll come to that, but better to be prepared.

Best of luck to you and your fiancé! Hope all goes well!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: House Drake on December 19, 2017, 09:45:12 PM
Best of luck to you and your fiancé! Hope all goes well!

Thank you! We feel pretty hopeful and confident right now. We'll know more soon. (We're mostly glad that they didn't tell us they found nothing, which would leave us right back at square one.)

!@#$ty. My sister just passed away 3 weeks ago due to brain cancer. Hopefully it's not that.

Oh god, I am so sorry. D:> You have my condolences! But no, luckily the radiologist says that he has something called a something-something-something vascular loop (?). It's not dangerous I don't think, except in the capacity that it's caused him to have tinnitus, which makes him want to kill himself. My mom had coil-and-stent surgery for a brain aneurysm when I was 16 and she was in and out in like four hours, so hopefully his surgery will be equally smooth.

This experience has been really scary and eye-opening though. That's one reason I'm writing Solomon as being mentally unstable (maybe Schizophrenic?). Originally I was just going to write him as a sociopath, but I've come to realize that there's plenty of more common, realistic scenarios that would be even scarier to deal with in medieval times, where no one can really tell you what's wrong with you.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 20, 2017, 01:03:52 AM
Drake, Brennon, my heart is with you both.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on December 21, 2017, 11:29:32 AM
...I got bored at 4 in the morning. Insomniac shenanigans.

And Obeah said, Behold.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on December 21, 2017, 11:46:45 AM
*looks knowingly at JeVondair*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on December 21, 2017, 11:52:33 AM
*chuckles and waits for JV*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Dystopian on December 22, 2017, 01:49:53 AM
*ugh*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on December 23, 2017, 07:34:39 AM
Got room for a wraith?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 27, 2017, 09:12:32 PM
Sorry for the Holidelay, Attano. Hopefully things will start picking up. I have an idea or two to run through with you...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on December 28, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
No worries. I have a few ideas as well.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 28, 2017, 08:44:30 PM
No worries. I have a few ideas as well.
Diplomacy, Violence, and Pasta?  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on December 29, 2017, 05:26:46 AM
Diplomacy, Violence, and Pasta?  ;D
Hehe, those are among them.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on January 02, 2018, 08:07:55 PM
So a few small changes to commemorate the coming of the new year...
Ok, that just about wraps it up!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on January 03, 2018, 04:33:43 PM
Meanwhile, I am over here praying to god that G2 runs and gets re-elected as GI.......

What have you done to me...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on January 03, 2018, 06:00:13 PM
Meanwhile, I am over here praying to god that G2 runs and gets re-elected as GI.......

What have you done to me...


Bedlam calls...lmao ::)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on February 09, 2018, 07:32:41 AM
Looks like a bunch of us got captured in Ardmore after that crazy freak horde came at us from every direction simultaneously. Wrote an RP but finished it a few minutes after the turn :( Was going to call the retreat after the RP. !@#$.

Ruler's in rogue prison, marshal's in prison, vice-marshal's in prison... Who else?

May as well post the RP here.

Quote from: Yxevarii Auru'in
    We never saw them coming.

The bane of generations - an ancient scourge borne upon the howling wind.

Harbingers of a plague given form; their bleak silhouettes carved unto memory.

Souls of black without conscious spark.

...Or so we believed.



    A fell wind blew that night - that blasphemous wail of dark lament.

Profane mutterings born of an eldritch macrocosm far beyond Man's perception.

Shambling hordes scattered beyond leagues; devoid of cause nor destination...

By the naive nature of callous Men, we mistook them for naught but mindless wanderers.

How could we be so wrong?



    Putrid maws called out unto the darkness in a tongue Man cannot fathom - and something answered the call.

Like a plague of locusts they coalesced. A leviathan horde descended from the pits of oblivion to cleave our ranks asunder.

Despite the best training and preparation money can buy, our defensive positions were overwhelmed without warning.

How does one defeat an enemy who feels no pain; which never tires; that knows no fear?

We never stood a chance.



    First they ambushed our scouts. Then they probed our response - unveiling vulnerabilities we were too blind to notice.

The flood broke upon our flanks like a tsunami - consuming the front-lines like loose grains of sand.

They were too swift, too vast a force to reform our lines. There was no second charge.

What few men survived will forever relive that night in their darkest nightmares.

We've doomed us all.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on February 12, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
What was the CS during the battle?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on February 24, 2018, 06:11:31 PM
Yxevarii's going to have about as many friends as Astros himself after today's shenanigans.  ;D

 8) When cleaning house, one is likely to step on a few toes.

Sometimes you need the open palm... Others, the clenched fist.

If I don't get at least one protest tomorrow, I'm not sure if I'll be relieved or disappointed.  :o
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on March 06, 2018, 12:13:31 PM
A long travel with my adv from Nothoi to Obia... tell me you have guilds there.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on March 06, 2018, 12:58:47 PM
We most certainly don't  ::)

That is one of those things that still need to happen but never got priority.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on March 06, 2018, 06:44:32 PM
Just do it!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on March 07, 2018, 12:05:08 AM
I'm not a Lord atm...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: CryptCypher on March 07, 2018, 05:54:28 PM
We need an adv guild in OS? I'll create one in Avengmil.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on March 08, 2018, 11:33:06 AM
I'm hunting in Avengmil.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on March 08, 2018, 06:41:52 PM
Plentiful Bounties
message to Uidor
You find a dying fellow adventurer who mentions the generosity of bounties in Rii. When he begins making noises after having died, you have to kill him a second time.

Poor fellow...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on March 20, 2018, 03:16:50 AM
I love how OS developed over the last couple months. Anyone wants to gimme a short summary of bigger things? And what happened to Drakes, is Shawna still around?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on March 29, 2018, 08:51:14 PM
I feel like these people RP even more than the Xavax did. I never thought I'd ever say that.  ;D  It's difficult to keep up, but keep rocking, y'all. I am one very happy camper <3


Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on March 30, 2018, 01:19:27 PM
All it needs is a good push ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on March 30, 2018, 03:05:09 PM
Did the Heralds became a state relligion? :(

It's sad to see but I've noticed there are hardly any followers from outsite OS. What happened to the great evangelisation? Get priests out in the world and start convertin'
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on March 30, 2018, 03:08:19 PM
It should be yeah so gotta convert those in the realm. And G2 is actually outside of OS now to do just that. Kinda fell apart when both I and JeVondair stepped back.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 02, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
Did the Heralds became a state relligion? :(

It's sad to see but I've noticed there are hardly any followers from outsite OS. What happened to the great evangelisation? Get priests out in the world and start convertin'


There are temples in Fronen and the Shattered Vales, our closest neighbors. But the problem was always too few priests-players :-(
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 03, 2018, 05:26:19 PM

There are temples in Fronen and the Shattered Vales, our closest neighbors. But the problem was always too few priests-players :-(

Yes and no. Part of the reason is also that the priest chars we did have were very busy with internal OS matters. I actually intend to change this. Assuming that G2 is re-elected (no opponent yet, so guess so ::)) I intend to give people free reign internally per government role etc so I can focus almost exclusively on foreign affairs and spreading the faith. Having you return somewhat and add to the faith as well will make that even greater, plus from the looks of it we'll get another active priest as well, so there's a lot of optimism on my part.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 10, 2018, 01:55:28 PM
SOS needs to find a way to found a new kingdom in the south or it will be destroyed in the next invasion.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 10, 2018, 10:13:56 PM
SOS needs to find a way to found a new kingdom in the south or it will be destroyed in the next invasion.

Well we may, or we may not. There is still a lot of time, plus Ardmore keeps failing hehe.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on April 10, 2018, 10:30:18 PM
Well we may, or we may not. There is still a lot of time, plus Ardmore keeps failing hehe.

I am furious at Ardmore... Every single time we move into a magical horde from nowhere materializes and decimates us.... FeelsBadMan
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 10, 2018, 10:50:01 PM
Well it was only 3k this time, that's actually not really bad. But the orders went out way too late, so very few people moved.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on April 10, 2018, 10:51:58 PM
Well it was only 3k this time, that's actually not really bad. But the orders went out way too late, so very few people moved.

I know, I know, but scout reports ahead of time showed 0 enemies in Ardmore.. and because I can't get Astros or Boltgan to figure out who wants to issue orders when... Or actually do it... It's like what I imagine being a parent is like...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on April 11, 2018, 01:15:24 AM
It's a big realm and Grand Templar doesn't really have to micromanage. Yo can just tell them "attack Ardmore with full force at your earliest convenience" or something like that and let them decide who issues orders, when to attack, full or half-day move, scout reports, predictions, formations etc.

There are countless ways of organizing military structure in a realm. None of them really wrong, but some of them can prove to be more right for each realm. Find a way that works IC and is enjoyable OOC and bam! stuff's suddenly peachy.  ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Renodin on April 11, 2018, 07:13:46 AM
To be fair  Astros is being an ass as much as he seems capable of being one. At least Vahanian is being addressed as General now. Kenobi  :-X
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 11, 2018, 01:46:29 PM
Ever since G2 became Ruler you all may have noticed he does things a bit different than those who came before him. Today I finalized my intentions with clear instructions and thought it would be interesting to explain this OOC shortly as well.

G2 should in theory not deal with anything within Obia'Syela, but rather the rest of the government should. Now they all have their areas, but they have no boundries so I'll expect some back and forth pushing between the Judge/Banker/General against each other. The idea is to move completely away from one person micromanaging everything (even though JeVondair did that perfectly, if that one person falls away you get total chaos as we saw). Once people are settled in I could theoretically become inactive and you'll have no issue because the institutions are present. Each of the government members has their own council (of which G2 is not a member I should add) to arrange their affairs and complete control over that message group.

So G2 is gonna lean back? Obviously not :) I hope to focus him entirely on foreign diplomacy and expanding the faith and thus RPíng a lot more about the faith as I've recently been doing already.

Small sneak peak, this is how a 'ruler' addresses his own government members :p
Letter from Goriad II Gabanus
Message sent to everyone in message group "The Grand Council" (4 recipients)
You all have your orders and tasks. You have been elected into your positions, now I expect you to do your job. Do not disappoint me, for if you fail I will interfere where need be and I do not wish to waste my time on cleaning up your mess. In stead there are a great many diplomatic matters to deal with as well as the spread of our faith. Do not fail your job, for I won't fail mine.
Goriad II Gabanus
Regent of Obia'Syela
Royal of Obia'Syela
Ambassador of Obia'Syela
Priest of Heralds of Obeah
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 11, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Here's my worry: Invasions can happen in a lot of ways, but last time it began with monster spawns from sea and rogue regions, which SOS is still completely surrounded by bc the southern monster spawns have been ridiculous. And if you think we're struggling now, wait till those invasion-level, 50k+ Rogue hordes start popping up again. If we don't find a way to populate and pacify the south, we'll loose it.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 11, 2018, 02:05:11 PM
It's impossible atm though. There simply aren't enough nobles on BT to do what you propose. So we'd need Northern nobles to travel south to make it happen. Also not sure if you noticed but so far we're failing in Ardmore already let alone further  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on April 11, 2018, 02:44:30 PM
Here's my worry: Invasions can happen in a lot of ways, but last time it began with monster spawns from sea and rogue regions, which SOS is still completely surrounded by bc the southern monster spawns have been ridiculous. And if you think we're struggling now, wait till those invasion-level, 50k+ Rogue hordes start popping up again. If we don't find a way to populate and pacify the south, we'll loose it.

Sooo, I should unpack my Portal stuff?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on April 11, 2018, 02:58:18 PM
It's impossible atm though. There simply aren't enough nobles on BT to do what you propose. So we'd need Northern nobles to travel south to make it happen. Also not sure if you noticed but so far we're failing in Ardmore already let alone further  ;D

That, and/or we do what has been proposed IC and relocate.. maybe closer to SV or somewhere else north?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on April 11, 2018, 02:59:07 PM
Letter from Goriad II Gabanus
Message sent to everyone in message group "The Grand Council" (4 recipients)
You all have your orders and tasks. You have been elected into your positions, now I expect you to do your job. Do not disappoint me, for if you fail I will interfere where need be and I do not wish to waste my time on cleaning up your mess. In stead there are a great many diplomatic matters to deal with as well as the spread of our faith. Do not fail your job, for I won't fail mine.
Goriad II Gabanus
Regent of Obia'Syela
Royal of Obia'Syela
Ambassador of Obia'Syela
Priest of Heralds of Obeah

Doing everything I can not to pick a fight... :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 11, 2018, 03:11:35 PM
Maybe G2 can convince Fronen and Gotland that they'd be better served with their staunch allies in the much wealthier southern regions.
<turnscapbackwards>
Go, G2! I choose you!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 11, 2018, 03:48:08 PM
That, and/or we do what has been proposed IC and relocate.. maybe closer to SV or somewhere else north?

You'll still have the same problem. The island is as well secured as possible and more than any other due to Avengmil. We will not relocate unless we can get like Creasur  ;) (Nothoi if you're reading, always willing to negotiate xD

Maybe G2 can convince Fronen and Gotland that they'd be better served with their staunch allies in the much wealthier southern regions.
<turnscapbackwards>
Go, G2! I choose you!

Working on it, but that takes time. Good thing I don't really have to focus internaly then  ::)

Doing everything I can not to pick a fight... :P

Perfect hehe!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on April 11, 2018, 05:44:51 PM
You'll still have the same problem. The island is as well secured as possible and more than any other due to Avengmil. We will not relocate unless we can get like Creasur  ;) (Nothoi if you're reading, always willing to negotiate xD

If we could get Vatrona (from Thalmarkin, VB's old stomping grounds) I think SOS thrives, and staves off any invasion.. Thalmarkin did it with like 13 active nobles.. I think we have at least that...

That and it would be a personal victory to make VB the duke of Vatrona...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on April 11, 2018, 06:59:03 PM
Maybe G2 can convince Fronen and Gotland that they'd be better served with their staunch allies in the much wealthier southern regions.
<turnscapbackwards>
Go, G2! I choose you!

I can't see a reason why wouldn't Fronen want Jidington, Thromegor, Bym, Eylmon and everything south from that line. Rich, perfectly defensible. The only issue would be repopulating but several ecstacy scrolls would fix it pretty fast.

Then we would have a triple perimeter (MD-Bym, Rueffilo-Irombro, Avengmil) of fortifiable regions to ward off invasion hordes and stalwart allies next door.

EDIT - btw, Rueffilo is the richest townsland region on BT, right?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 11, 2018, 07:09:38 PM
I can't see a reason why wouldn't Fronen want Jidington, Thromegor, Bym, Eylmon and everything south from that line. Rich, perfectly defensible...


Nobody likes watching the realm they've played in for so long go the way of the dinosaurs. Further, I believe both countries suffer from the general lethargy that makes this whole scenario that much more difficult. If they are having fun doing what they are doing, then good for them.


All I'm saying is that they might just have more fun down south!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on April 11, 2018, 09:38:18 PM
Oh the things I could do with a bigger army!!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 11, 2018, 09:40:19 PM
Oh the things I could do with a bigger army!!

Working on it. Scolded Erheas and Janis for you and got us a new knight incoming. Let's see if I can convert some more
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on April 12, 2018, 01:35:35 PM
Gythrul nooooooooo...ooooo...o!   :'(
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 12, 2018, 04:51:06 PM
What were the odds that Usol Soul and Gythrul Attano would meet their demise in SOS?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 12, 2018, 07:35:48 PM
Within a week. Propaganda time!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on April 13, 2018, 04:06:53 PM
Sooooo anyone spare a healing scroll?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on April 13, 2018, 04:11:31 PM
Sooooo anyone spare a healing scroll?

So its you that's been spamming the advys in Ardmore lol!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gildre on April 13, 2018, 07:40:36 PM
Haha I guess Gythrul and Usul have, what, two months to find a scroll? I think that is the time limit to leave a char unburied. I can't believe they both fell at the same time.

There is a lot of RP potential here. Those two daimon loving bastards need to get resurrected. We have Jessica's hatred, Rania has some sort of plan, who knows what G2 wants to do with them, and I would be disappointed if they didn't have schemes of their own going on!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 13, 2018, 08:39:06 PM
My entire time on BT, I've only seen a healing scroll ONCE :-(. Been looking since Selenia died because reasons, lol.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on April 13, 2018, 08:40:16 PM
My entire time on BT, I've only seen a healing scroll ONCE :-(. Been looking since Selenia died because reasons, lol.

Confirmed Selenia is hoarding them :P :P :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gildre on April 13, 2018, 10:39:26 PM
I am glad they are super rare. The whole thrill of being a hero is the risk of death. You don't get much more out of the class IMO. So if you can just come back from the dead each time it kind of kills it for me...

I wish there was some sort of consequence for coming back from the dead. Although socially I guess there is. Selenia became a pariah among the other rulers... it just added fuel to their hatred.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on April 13, 2018, 10:53:05 PM
I am glad they are super rare. The whole thrill of being a hero is the risk of death. You don't get much more out of the class IMO. So if you can just come back from the dead each time it kind of kills it for me...
Exactly. This type of event should be *exceptional*.

I wish there was some sort of consequence for coming back from the dead. Although socially I guess there is. Selenia became a pariah among the other rulers... it just added fuel to their hatred.
I think its good to be handled by players. Each situation/perspective is different. For a simplistic dialectic, undead or divine resurrection? But I do think there was some discussion awhile back about skills being affected (harsher skill loss by age, softcapping, resetting to lower levels et cetera) by returning from death by healing scroll. Still, since its supposed to be exceptional, dev effort on what shouldn't be a common occurrence isn't exactly the highest.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 14, 2018, 01:34:48 PM
I think the way it was handled in RP with Gythrul was some amazing RP's and I'm sad he's dead dead this time. Maura and Gythrul had just started a really nice RP series.

*Wonders if he can still give the player of Gythrul a medal...should try*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Logar on April 14, 2018, 10:21:14 PM
My character has begun a series of RP's within the region of Ardmore. As yet I havn't found a way to filter them into Obia. I will continue the series this evening or tomorrow and post them into the RP section on the forums if anyone wishes to view them.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on April 15, 2018, 05:03:16 PM
@Logar - make it happen. Everyone's interested in what's happening in Ardmore.

By the way guys, if anyone missed it in realm OOC message, I'm recording all Obia'Syela roleplays (much like Dubhain player does for Luria, I figured with the quantity and quality of roleplays we have in OS it's really worth it). The link for March/April (minus Gildre party) is here: http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Arnickles_Renodin/Maura/OS_march (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Arnickles_Renodin/Maura/OS_march)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Logar on April 15, 2018, 10:54:35 PM
Link to the Ardmore RP's:

https://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,8294.0.html
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on April 18, 2018, 11:01:06 PM
Portal event. What was that Rania said about Gythrul finding no reward in the afterlife the first time he was in the cells of SOS?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 20, 2018, 12:03:01 AM
Portal event. What was that Rania said about Gythrul finding no reward in the afterlife the first time he was in the cells of SOS?


*vexed grumbling*


Of course, its not like we know for sure how he's doing over there. If he comes back we'll ask him.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 20, 2018, 07:58:21 PM
Sea monsters are stupid and should be removed from the game forever.


Change my mind.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on April 20, 2018, 09:18:52 PM
Sea monsters are stupid and should be removed from the game forever.


Change my mind.
I don't need to change your mind. You need to change mine (or Anaris's). :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on April 22, 2018, 09:22:42 AM

*vexed grumbling*


Of course, its not like we know for sure how he's doing over there. If he comes back we'll ask him.

It can’t be that bad, right? That’d be something.

Sea monsters are stupid and should be removed from the game forever.


Change my mind.

You know who doesn’t have monster troubles? Daimons and their followers.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Stabbity on April 23, 2018, 03:53:59 AM
Obia'Syela seems interesting thus far. I look forward to seeing how things progress. >:D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 24, 2018, 10:34:04 PM
Obia'Syela seems interesting thus far. I look forward to seeing how things progress.
Welcome back! I didn't realize we had a Himoura!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 24, 2018, 11:16:35 PM
Damn, there goes the neighbourhood  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Stabbity on April 24, 2018, 11:48:34 PM
Damn, there goes the neighbourhood  ;D

This is why you didn't realize you had a Himoura :p
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on April 25, 2018, 10:21:32 AM
Nah like I said on Discord, you'll feel right at home I reckon  ::)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 03, 2018, 01:01:54 AM
​Question for the group: Given the players that we have [27], does anyone believe it would be possible to have a standing army of 30,000 mobile CS before the next invasion comes around?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on May 03, 2018, 02:14:48 AM
Depends on when the next invasion comes around.

If you have the right RCs and unlimited funds, one character with 50 honor can easily reach 1k CS and upwards of that honor threshold it goes with fibonnaci, so...

If we'd have just right RCs and just right income and just right amount of battles prior to that causing our people to have just right amount of honor... 32 500 CS is my estimate of feasibly achievable full refit mobile CS.

When you factor in the income, luck with building RCs, amount of heroes we have (and that will die before invasion happens) ... 18 000 CS, maybe 20k if we switch all priest and courtiers for warriors.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on May 03, 2018, 04:09:11 PM
​Question for the group: Given the players that we have [27], does anyone believe it would be possible to have a standing army of 30,000 mobile CS before the next invasion comes around?

Not yet, but if we continue proper work, possibly.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 03, 2018, 07:47:53 PM
Well, what we do have just beat a force of almost 50k. Sure we had defenses(2), but we were expecting a force of 4k and won anyway bc GOD WILLS IT
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on May 04, 2018, 12:42:32 AM
Well, what we do have just beat a force of almost 50k. Sure we had defenses(2), but we were expecting a force of 4k and won anyway bc Obeah WILLS IT

Here changed it for ya. I know I actually have the power to change the actual post, but that felt kinda abusive  ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 10, 2018, 12:54:40 AM
I've haven't seen a Coquard, Renodin, and a D'este in the same realm since Alison Arundel ruled Luria Nova, lol. 29 going on 30 players!

Also, fun fact, but SOS's second birthday is coming up on July 19, 2018 and I was thinking that EXTERMINATING ALL THE MONSTERS IN AND AROUND ARDMORE would be a lovely gift to Obeah...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on May 10, 2018, 02:20:44 AM
Best birthday gift to Obeah would be summoning Her, no?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on May 10, 2018, 04:49:06 AM
Best birthday gift to Obeah would be summoning Her, no?
Oh, I don't think you want to do that...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on May 10, 2018, 08:13:38 AM
Oh, I don't think you want to do that...
I think I really do.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 10, 2018, 04:07:30 PM
I don't think a faith of 50,000 followers is big enough to make that happen. Flights from beyond the Veil aren't cheap, you know. Get back to me when we hit a million faithful or a hundred noble followers...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on May 11, 2018, 12:19:55 AM
I don't think a faith of 50,000 followers is big enough to make that happen. Flights from beyond the Veil aren't cheap, you know. Get back to me when we hit a million faithful or a hundred noble followers...
cough Portal Stones cough
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Stabbity on May 11, 2018, 07:32:09 AM
cough Portal Stones cough

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/962/HeresyStamp.png)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on May 11, 2018, 11:21:26 AM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/962/HeresyStamp.png)
*coughs in radical inquisitor*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 11, 2018, 02:05:55 PM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/962/HeresyStamp.png)


+10
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on May 11, 2018, 02:22:46 PM
I don't think a faith of 50,000 followers is big enough to make that happen. Flights from beyond the Veil aren't cheap, you know. Get back to me when we hit a million faithful or a hundred noble followers...

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on May 11, 2018, 03:50:56 PM
Lmao. I am loving the influx of Nobles and units we are getting cause now I can play who has the bigger stick with most regions around us, and WIN, and it makes me happy :)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on May 11, 2018, 03:53:54 PM
Lmao. I am loving the influx of Nobles and units we are getting cause now I can play who has the bigger stick with most regions around us, and WIN, and it makes me happy :)

So time to give you new challenges? What about timely orders?  ::) :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on May 11, 2018, 03:55:28 PM
So time to give you new challenges? What about timely orders?  ::) :P

I cant tell you how many times I've told Astros and Boltgan to do it.... Part of it I think is when the players have the time to login. Like personally, I really only have time to login ~7:30-8 am EST when I get to work LOL...

Feel free to reprimand the marshals and Not Vahanian :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on May 11, 2018, 04:25:15 PM
Enlightenment rule of thumb - when things go well it is because of Grand Templar's tactical ingenuity, when things go bad it is because of Marshals' ineptitude. :)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on May 11, 2018, 04:30:41 PM
Enlightenment rule of thumb - when things go well it is because of Grand Templar's tactical ingenuity, when things go bad it is because of Marshals' ineptitude. :)

Exactly.
:P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on May 11, 2018, 04:56:55 PM
Exactly.
:P

Haha well you're responsible for your marshals :p twice-daily. Your #1 will start nagging you again haha
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on May 11, 2018, 05:20:52 PM
Haha well you're responsible for your marshals :p twice-daily. Your #1 will start nagging you again haha

*Writes strongly worded message to marshals*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Stabbity on May 12, 2018, 01:46:48 AM
Enlightenment rule of thumb - when things go well it is because of Grand Templar's tactical ingenuity, when things go bad it is because of Marshals' ineptitude. :)

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/994/268/399.jpg)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 12, 2018, 07:16:40 AM
First of all, more heresy memes, please. I've been waiting since founding the Inquisitiion for everyone to GET it, lol


Second of all, this...
Enlightenment rule of thumb - when things go well it is because of Grand Templar's tactical ingenuity, when things go bad it is because of Marshals' ineptitude. :)
...this right here is getting saved to the wiki
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Stabbity on May 12, 2018, 08:07:06 AM
First of all, more heresy memes, please. I've been waiting since founding the Inquisitiion for everyone to GET it, lol


Second of all, this......this right here is getting saved to the wiki

(https://i.imgur.com/imk5Kpm.jpg)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on May 12, 2018, 02:39:41 PM
I seriously still don't get these references at all. It was explained to me yesterday that originally Inquisition in Keffa was based on 40k (whatever that is) and then with no demons left it became the pussy variant in Rines till G2 brought it back to 40k? (Without me knowing what that is, I'm confused).
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on May 12, 2018, 04:06:20 PM
I am not the best guide as I think myself the layman in 40k but basically it was a pen'n'paper RPG setting (originally just warhammer without 40k) of futuristic, very grandiose sci-fi that over time turned into entire franchise with video games, books, animation movies etc.

Basically in this setting there is God Emperor sort of that rules everything and has lots of orders. Basically the social structure, to put in in coder's language boils down to:

if problem - apply terror
if solved - good
if not - apply more terror
rinse and repeat

Inquisition is the top branch of the tree. When they find signs of heresy they don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, they throw the entire kindergarten out with the bathwater.

I believe it translated well into Obia'Syela, since early Inquisition in OS was the one time I had the inexplicably awesome opportunity to enjoyably balance on the edge between being rewarded and being executed.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on May 12, 2018, 05:19:33 PM
G2 was always on that edge as well :)

I think most realms would've banned half of OS within a month, including G2 (before he became ruler obviously).
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Stabbity on May 12, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
In the grim darkness of Beluaterra, there is only war...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Attano on May 13, 2018, 09:52:43 AM
I am not the best guide as I think myself the layman in 40k but basically it was a pen'n'paper RPG setting (originally just warhammer without 40k) of futuristic, very grandiose sci-fi that over time turned into entire franchise with video games, books, animation movies etc.

Basically in this setting there is God Emperor sort of that rules everything and has lots of orders. Basically the social structure, to put in in coder's language boils down to:

if problem - apply terror
if solved - good
if not - apply more terror
rinse and repeat

Inquisition is the top branch of the tree. When they find signs of heresy they don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, they throw the entire kindergarten out with the bathwater.

I believe it translated well into Obia'Syela, since early Inquisition in OS was the one time I had the inexplicably awesome opportunity to enjoyably balance on the edge between being rewarded and being executed.
That’s a rough idea. God-Emperor’s been dead for 10k years. His soul is lighting the space lighthouse, human FTL travel is through hell.

The plan settled is only done by Inquisitors. Local governments are usually more lenient, agri-world governors are very lenient, hive-world governors tend to be more harsh because gangs.

It started out as the RPG Rogue Trader, a few editions later it turned to the 40k tabletop war game.

It did translate very well to OS, due to the actions of Spearhold and co.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: steelabjur@aol.com on May 13, 2018, 12:01:18 PM
I seriously still don't get these references at all. It was explained to me yesterday that originally Inquisition in Keffa was based on 40k (whatever that is) and then with no demons left it became the pussy variant in Rines till G2 brought it back to 40k? (Without me knowing what that is, I'm confused).

The Inquisition are secret police that hunt down the corruption caused by the Forces of Chaos (The "Warp", also known as the Realm of Chaos, is the dimension that ships enter to travel FTL, it's ruled over by Lovecraftian horrors that want to break into the "Real World" basically), Heretics (basically anything but absolute faith in the God Emperor is not tolerated), mutants and rebels (the former because the Imperium of Man is kinda racist), and assaults from vicious alien species (think Aliens or the Zerg). They rather lack empathy for their fellow Humans (or anyone else really) in following what they consider their holy purpose. If need be, they can call down a verdict of Exterminatus, basically destroying an entire planetary biosphere and all life upon a world (and if a few billion lives have to be lost in the process of protecting the Imperium of Man, so be it! Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure). 

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Inquisition
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on May 14, 2018, 12:28:17 AM
New passtime of medium rank inquisitors - coaching and tough-loving realm leaders.

Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 14, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
40k = Earth (now + 37,990 years) during which point mankind, under the Emperor, conquered the galaxy only to suffer the greatest single civil war ever which consequently unleashed the horrors of the warp (40k version of Hyperspace, but also + Hell) to reap havoc in realspace while the Imperium itself is  was further weakened from within and without by foul xenos, heretics, and worse. It is the mission of the Holy Inquisition to root out these threats within the Imperium and cauterize them for the greater good...often involving a stupendous amount of murder. The Inquisition is basically what Hitler's  SS were like, and just as villainous. However, in the grimdark future of the 41st millenium, it is better that a million die then one heretic be left unjudged.


For more on these, the following link is 10/10 the best out there: [size=80%]https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Inquisition (https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Inquisition)[/size]


Remeber, kids, NO ONE expects the Beluaterran Inquisition!

y'all, the f/at guys even wrote a song based on the Mel Brooks original...
Quote
The eye that sleepth not.
The Inquisition (Let's begin)
The Inquisition (Look out, sin)
We have a mission
To kill all the Heretiiiiiics~ (Heretics, He-he-he-heretics~)
We're gonna teach them (Wrong from right)
We're gonna help them (See the light)
And make an offer that they can't refuse.
(That the heretics just can't refuse)




Confess (confess), don't be boring
Re-peeeent~ (Repent), don't be dull
A fact you're ignoring
It's better to ditch the skull throne than your skull




The Inquisition (What a show)
The Inquisition (Here we go)
We know you're wishing that we'd go away
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay




The Inquisition (Oh boy)
The Inquisition (What joy)
The Inquisition (Oi oi)




I was posting down in /tg/, I was minding my own business
I was about to post some Loli Daemonette.
Then these Ordos Hereticus plunge in
And they throw me in a dungeon
And they shoved a revved up chainsword up my ass.




Is that considerate?
Is that polite?
And not a tube of Preparation H in sight.




I'm sittin' flickin' daemons
And I'm lookin' through the thickens
When suddenly these guys break down my walls.
I didn't even know them
And they grabbed me by the scrotum
And they started playing Ping Pong with my balls




Oh, the agony!
Ooh, the shame!
To make my privates public by a game!




The Inquisition (What a show)
The Inquisition (Here we go)
We know you're wishing that we'd go away
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to-




Hey, Torquemada!
What do you say?




I just got back from the autos-du-fe,
Autos-du-fe? What's the autos-du-fe?
It's what you oughtn't to do but you do anyway!




Skit scat doodlebac doodle be bay




Will you convert?
NO NO NO NO!
Will you confess?
NO NO NO NO!
Will you revert?
NO NO NO NO!
Will you say YES?
NO NO NO NO!




Now I asked in a nice way
I said pretty please
I bent their ears
Now I'll work on the knees




Hey Torquemada
Walk this way
We got a new game you might want to play!
Pull this handle, try your luck
Who knows, Torq, you might win a buck! (All right)




Put it in the ship.
(In the ship In the ship!)




How we doing? Any Heretics repent today?
Not a one! Nay Nay Nay!
We've flattened their fingers,
We've branded their buns.
Nothing is working!
SEND IN THE NUNS WITH GUNS




The Inquisition (What a show)
The Inquisition (Here we go)
We know you're wishing that we'd go away
So come on all you Heretics and you Xenos
We got some big news for all of yous
You'd better change your point of views today




'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on May 16, 2018, 10:20:01 AM
Oh... the inquisition is even worse than I thought...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 16, 2018, 01:07:08 PM
Oh... the inquisition is even worse than I thought...


Not yet they arent, which is part of he current problem. Strictly speaking, the Inquisition technically is not an official branch of the Heralds religion and have no official standing within the church,. Rather, like the Templars, they are merely closely associated with the church. Unlike the Templars, however, The Inquisition was meant from the start to be an international guild run by the continental judges with as much autonomy as possible. Frankly, I was hoping this would add a new layer of power dynamics to the beluaterran gameplay,
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on May 16, 2018, 01:26:41 PM

Not yet they arent, which is part of he current problem. Strictly speaking, the Inquisition technically is not an official branch of the Heralds religion and have no official standing within the church,. Rather, like the Templars, they are merely closely associated with the church. Unlike the Templars, however, The Inquisition was meant from the start to be an international guild run by the continental judges with as much autonomy as possible. Frankly, I was hoping this would add a new layer of power dynamics to the beluaterran gameplay,

I couldn't possibly agree more. Inquisition has so far been a massive underachiever for a guild that was created with those ambitions. It would be awesome to have a powerful international guild with no oversight from any particular realm. Imagine something the size of Royal Rangers, but with strict hierarchy and political agenda.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Stabbity on May 16, 2018, 11:23:45 PM

Not yet they arent, which is part of he current problem. Strictly speaking, the Inquisition technically is not an official branch of the Heralds religion and have no official standing within the church,. Rather, like the Templars, they are merely closely associated with the church. Unlike the Templars, however, The Inquisition was meant from the start to be an international guild run by the continental judges with as much autonomy as possible. Frankly, I was hoping this would add a new layer of power dynamics to the beluaterran gameplay,

Hold my beer.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on May 30, 2018, 10:11:24 PM
We now have  newspaper. REJOICE!  ;D ;D ;D


http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Obia%27Syela/Newspaper_-_The_Mute_Herald
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on June 01, 2018, 10:42:05 PM
Something that will cause much fun in the future just happened earlier today and noone noticed. I feel like I stumbled upon Peter Dinklage in white-walker make-up (that's not GoT spoiler btw, just a metaphore/simile/something).
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on June 02, 2018, 12:07:13 AM
hush ::)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on June 02, 2018, 10:53:46 AM
 :-X
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on June 06, 2018, 06:27:16 PM
Hey folks! Can we brainstorm ways to effectively grow the religion? Like what do I have to do, as a player, to make it appealing to a broader spectrum of characters OUTSIDE of SOS? We're hampered by our limited number of priests. At the moment, its basically only Rania and G2 and both are doing their best.


Also, what's up with all the rogues EVERYWHERE? Its getting ridiculous imo. Why are the spawn rates so high/frequent?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on June 06, 2018, 10:44:30 PM
Temples. We need temples abroad to grow the number of nobles in the religion. Without it all other efforts are pointless.

Same thing goes for the inquisition. Do we even have any guildhouses outside SOS?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on June 07, 2018, 11:19:29 PM
Unfortunately, SOS's far-flung location inhibits visitors from the mainland. The last time a foreigner came just to visit was Empress Maya and that was for an important diplomatic summit. With everyone struggling to survive against monsters rn, I can see how its hard to plan a vacation to sunny Rines...



Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Stabbity on June 11, 2018, 02:47:23 AM
I guess I will have to go about visiting others then. I'll pack my daggers.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on July 23, 2018, 09:50:10 PM
Yea, with all those nobles with so little land, the realm should be able to afford many priests. All it takes is for at least one elder priest to go about a tour of the continent, converting at least one lord per realm.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on July 26, 2018, 05:53:43 PM
Yes I kow, and as soon as I'm fully recovered I'll see to that. Things have been happening so quickly both in and out of the game that I've fallen way behind on, well, everything. In the meantime though, I'm super proud of how the RCs in Rines are shaping up...


Name
Type | Range | Weapons | Armor | Training | RC Size

Inquisitorial Dragoons   
Cav   -   55   70   55   2   

Moonlight Sentinels   
Spec   5   80   55   65   1   

Obian Crusaders   
Cav   -   65   65   45   2   

Paladins of the Oracle   
Spec   -   90   85   95   1   

Templar Wrathbows   
Arch   4   70   75   90   2   



I check the RC consults every time I log on. It's taken me THIS LONG to get a range 5 SF witha weapons score over 60. That's over a year and im just so happy rn
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on August 01, 2018, 02:47:58 PM
Aaaanndd VB has successfully orchestrated the destruction of 2 of his rivals within about a week of each other..  :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on August 03, 2018, 04:40:25 PM
It definitely worked out well for your character. I'm still left scratching my head. Turns out G2 lied about Grehkia, no one even knew about the dealings besides Iestyn(?) AND they just elected Wilhelm Altenar to the throne to boot. And that whole spiral with Adolphus was just out of the blue.


Meanwhile, I'm behind on everything as per usual  :-[
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on August 03, 2018, 05:19:52 PM
The whole situation could have for sure been avoided with Adolphus if he had shown just an inkling of restraint..
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on August 03, 2018, 07:06:17 PM
Himoura? Restraint? Hah!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on August 03, 2018, 10:23:35 PM
It was truly a thing of beauty. Have no idea what he plans on doing with Adolphus, but I'm sure it'll be interesting.


Fun fact, He was the first player in BM to ever RP with me  I should've known from that point that was in for a show when he arrived, lol
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on August 04, 2018, 07:59:59 PM
It definitely worked out well for your character. I'm still left scratching my head. Turns out G2 lied about Grehkia, no one even knew about the dealings besides Iestyn(?) AND they just elected Wilhelm Altenar to the throne to boot. And that whole spiral with Adolphus was just out of the blue.


Meanwhile, I'm behind on everything as per usual  :-[

G2 did not lie in that regard. The char that led the 'rebellion' against Wilhelm autopaused though. And perhaps without G2 there is an option for relations, but with a Gabanus leading OS that wasn't possible. My family name entirely is shat upon by some  ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Stabbity on August 05, 2018, 06:32:41 AM
A 25 gold fine for !@#$ talking your judge after he gives multiple warnings is the definition of restraint.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on August 06, 2018, 11:41:50 PM
If you mean to say that you couldn't have handled the situation better, I'll believe you. imo, Adolphus over-reacted, not necessarily with the fine so much as engaging in a mudfight thereafter, and it spiraled from there.


We'll set a new Grand Council requirement: No teenagers  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Medron Pryde on August 07, 2018, 04:34:27 PM
I think people shat on the Gabanus family generally because you are just a good player and very strategic.  In short, you are dangerous to be around.  So some people make it a policy to nuke any realm you lead on principle.

You should take that as a badge of honor.  And maybe create a new account so you can scheme without people knowing who you are.  ;)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on August 17, 2018, 06:41:30 PM
Goriad has a curious legacy in SOS. He was pretty much lauded by everyone, even his enemies (eyes Blint). He did an amazing amount of work for the Church so even Rania is reluctant to bad mouth him, even now that he's dead.


Anyway, I was trying to sign up a new player yesterday and noticed that SoS has the largest number of Nobles by a pretty nice margin. Presently we have 29 listed and activity seems good. The next largest is Nothoi with 20. I'd say we're doing pretty good folks, I'm really proud we managed that especially considering how far SoS is from the main theater! Let's keep driving!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on August 20, 2018, 08:58:40 PM
I wouldn't say he was "lauded" by VB.... more like a mutual understanding.. That and it helped that VB/most of the realm knew that G2 was only alive because I allowed him to live (well technically the game did because we dueled until surrender.. but the RP was that I allowed it :P)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on August 20, 2018, 09:29:23 PM
Which reminds me of an entirely unrelated idea I had this morning.


Obian Mercenaries


While I was looking at the noble counts of other realms on other continents, it occurred to me that the wealthier ones could afford to purchase the services of Obian noble families. Say, for example, that Swordfell had the script to pay mercs to join the realm and assist them in their war against Arnor. For 1000 gold/knight, players who main in SOS and do not have a character in that realm/continent can then make one, rolpelaying that they were knighted specifically to bring glory to their House and their Goddess by serving abroad.


At wars end, thee nobles can then transfer to the next troubled State and fight upon the next battlefield. Writing Obeah's name with swords as their stylus and fire as their ink.

I thought for a while on how the gold transfer would work. Since all the continents exist in the same world, i do not think it would be "gamey" to use family wealth to accomplish this. For example, Let's say that Gildre, who currently rules SOS, has a character in Swordfell that we'll call Bob for now. Gildre has Grandmistress Jessica Pen a later cousin bob stating that SOS is willing to commit Templars oversees in exchange for whatever, in this case gold at the aforementioned price. Let's conitnue by saying that swordfell comes up with 5k in gold which they then send to Bob. Bob sends 4k of that gold to the Gildre family coffers, whereupon Jessica uses that gold for concurrent investments in Obian cities to maximize taxes production. We track the 4k amount by debiting each family investment Jessica makes (should be 4-5 in total). Meanwhile, 5 Obian players create new characters in Swordfell and Bob, who you'll remember kept 1k of the Fellish payment, then gives each new knight 200 gold to develop thier forces on their own.

We could write the 'contract' like a treaty even. And should any of the terms be broken on the Obian end, Swordfell will have the right to demand their payment back (again in the form of family investments OR personal gold, should bob be afluent enough.


From a purely gameplay perspective, I don't think this breaks any rules. having a new way to make gold is surely a plus, and the whole Obian Merc idea gives us a lot of new room for a vastly different RP playing field. Furthermore, should any of our Beluaterran characters die, they can immediately be replaced by immigrating one of the mercs back home.

I haven't had time to put too much thought into all of this, but I knew I had to write and share before i forgot. Am I completely off my rocker here?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on August 20, 2018, 09:34:16 PM
Most likely, but why should that stop you? You've suggested and done far crazier things..
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on August 20, 2018, 11:10:04 PM
Mercs arent the way to go. Either the nobles join that realm permanently because its fun, or they lose interest because it isnt. Moreover, only the active players will go abroad, that will leave OS rather quiet.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gildre on August 20, 2018, 11:53:36 PM
I agree with D'Este.

I personally have enough free time to REALLY commit to one character, kind of commit to another one, and the other two just follow orders and hang out. It generally revolves as to which character has the coolest stuff going on in their realm, but trying to be all in with all four characters leads to player burn out.

So by doing this, since characters are getting paid, the players are going to focus that energy on their conscripted realm, rather than SOS.

In addition, this seems like it will be a ton of energy to track.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on August 21, 2018, 01:48:30 AM
I've never liked people who fancied themselves "mercenaries" for third parties. It breaks both immersion and team spirit.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gabanus family on August 22, 2018, 07:47:39 AM
Perhaps it would make more sense to focus on the faith, rather than come up with time consuming plans like the mercs  ;)

There is enough in OS that's still missing in the current situation. Focus on that first.

Main thing, any faithful not in OS tge realm sees no activity to begin with. Church is at dead as the Daisha.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Bluelake on August 22, 2018, 02:02:38 PM
You could also do merc work in Beluaterra as well... from what I see, many realms are in need of extra hands. Could accept payment in things other than gold too, like wards, nobles joining the faith, temples, promises, marriages, anything that mixes politics in with RP and a little mechanic.

Making the realm activity transfer into the church would probably also be a great way to actually expand the influence.

I've been trying to convince someone in BT to make BT Marshal Plan happen :D - now that portal event reduced rogues, it might be slightly moot...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on August 22, 2018, 07:52:32 PM
Main thing, any faithful not in OS tge realm sees no activity to begin with. Church is at dead as the Daisha.


Shout out to all 3 of y'all outside SOS!


But seriously, the -only- time I've seen a religion 'active' is after it's gone international, making the church the most effect forum for communication. That's been more than a little problematic with only 1-3 priests available at any given time, all of whom hold secular responsibilities as well. We've only just managed to dispatch our first missionary to set up shop permanently in a different realm. That, plus the planned colonies we intend to found, ought to shift the paradigm more favorably and encourage players to utilize the Heralds more regularly. Regular use will snowball into more content. For now, patience is a virtue. Spent years putting this together, can afford to wait a few months more to hit its stride.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on August 23, 2018, 10:59:08 AM
I'll kick the snowball down the hill when I have a bit more time for BM in 2-3 weeks. For now I can only afford to look at it intently.

eyes the snowball intently
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on August 28, 2018, 05:52:46 PM
Jev's SOS (secular) Roadmap:
Suffices to say this won't happen over night, but ideally we'll be able to accomplish most or all of these goals prior to the next invasion, thereby giving SOS and the Heralds faith the best possible chance of surviving the next invasion. According to my best estimates, I'll need at least 40, more likely closer to 50 noble families working together throughout this Obian Hegemony to make it happen. By this point, I hope that the actual Heralds of Obeah church channel will be the most utilized public forum in southern Beluaterra, much like my first experience with religion in this game, SA, was between the realms of Dwilight with the added benefit of being an ideal tool for multinational military coordination. Four realms located next to one another, supporting one another, feeding each other's cities, and combining their armies to fight beneath one centralized command, augmented by a core of dedicated magic-users, the Heralds themselves, who will inhibit daimon lords and spread the spell-arsenal of the sacred lands so as not to invite magical stockpiling accidents.


Jev's HoO (religious) Roadmap
I am less experienced at religion-building then I am at empire building so it's taken somewhat of a backseat to the latter in my mind. I always envisioned the Heralds as a multi-realm faith and since that has not strongly happened yet, The Heralds chat has not been very utilized. part of my overall goal, both secular and religion-wise, is to change that so the Heralds do become the primary way that players engage one another between realms. I'll come up with new sermons and scriptures as the muse hits me or as events unfold, and the more people who have access to it, the more likely others will want to do the same, thus increasing content for the faith in addition to realizing my other aforementioned goals.

Presently, I hope to have this accomplished by 2020. I think its unlikely that we'll complete even only the secular goals before the end of December. I doubt we could establish a polity in Jidington, or even Elymon, until Q1 2019 at the earliest. Which means that by the time I anticipate all of this being reached in 2020, this plan will have been in development for over 5 years IRL.

I appreciate everyone who's been a part of the journey thus far, and I am sorry to those I've let down along the way. The ongoing love and support this realm has received has been truly encouraging and I'm glad y'all are with me trying to make all this happen. Anyway, this has been a roadmap update. If you didn't know what I had in mind, well, now you do.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on August 28, 2018, 07:44:21 PM
Strategically it is not a problem to take all those regions in as little as a couple of months. However our density would have us smashed by rogues all the way back to peninsula. If you want more regions you need more nobles. There's no way around it.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on August 29, 2018, 11:02:58 PM
That makes me wonder how Angmar is doing. They have only 21 nobles, yet seem to have little trouble maintaining 11 regions.
SOS, meanwhile, I'm not sure what's happening. Are these rogues till walking up from the sea?

Also if someone could educate me on the following I'd be appreciative: Does regional control have any effect whatsoever on reducing rogue spawns in a region? Because it seems to me that a region a core control really really shouldn't spawn/attract/whatever rogues often.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: D`Este on August 30, 2018, 09:08:48 PM
The rogues could also have something to do with all those scrolls that accidentally... activate..
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on September 05, 2018, 10:33:44 PM
Yeah you are certainly right about that. Question, is ONLY summoning scrolls that nobles can "find" via witch burnigns and such? I swear that's all I've ever gotten and the drop rates seem vastly different from continent to continent and even region to region. For Example, back when Kalixta was countess of Seeven Rivers for melhed, her people KEPT finding witches, burning them, and pilfering their scrolls (Always summons) and I've never experienced such a high drop rate since on any of my characters.







Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on September 05, 2018, 10:37:56 PM
Also, Temple stuff


--CURRENT--

7 Vast and Splendid Temple Area   1,600-1,800   32?   31,500 (current faithful pop in Rines is steady at  38k)


--NEXT--
8 Awe-inspiring Temple District   2,000-2500??   40   40,000?? (halfway funded)


--FUTURE--
9 Awe-inspiring temple district spanning 1 blocks   3,000??   60?   50,000?? (October)
10 Awe-inspiring temple district spanning 2 blocks   4,000??   60   60,000 (December)
11 Awe-inspiring temple district spanning 3 blocks   5050   80?   80,000?? (February 2019)


After that, I'll start saving for statues and monuments.
Somewhere in here I'll have to figure out a way to fund a tournament too as I'm curious to see what knights from what realms will show up.


Also, sorry everyone for how long its taking me with these RPs.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gordy77 on September 06, 2018, 02:54:23 AM
I always thought the witch burning event (summoning scrolls) was more common on BT because the casting of scrolls fueled some sort of portal priestly powers.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on September 06, 2018, 03:13:17 AM
No, its part of the player-controlled mini-invasion mechanic on Beluaterra.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Gordy77 on September 06, 2018, 03:46:42 AM
Same thing?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on September 06, 2018, 03:51:15 AM
Has, at best, an indirect benefit to any 'portal priestly powers'. It's mostly a cyclical rogue spawning mechanic.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on September 06, 2018, 06:27:25 AM
all news to me!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on September 06, 2018, 02:29:49 PM
Also, Temple stuff


--CURRENT--

7 Vast and Splendid Temple Area   1,600-1,800   32?   31,500 (current faithful pop in Rines is steady at  38k)


--NEXT--
8 Awe-inspiring Temple District   2,000-2500??   40   40,000?? (halfway funded)


--FUTURE--
9 Awe-inspiring temple district spanning 1 blocks   3,000??   60?   50,000?? (October)
10 Awe-inspiring temple district spanning 2 blocks   4,000??   60   60,000 (December)
11 Awe-inspiring temple district spanning 3 blocks   5050   80?   80,000?? (February 2019)


After that, I'll start saving for statues and monuments.
Somewhere in here I'll have to figure out a way to fund a tournament too as I'm curious to see what knights from what realms will show up.


Also, sorry everyone for how long its taking me with these RPs.

How are we funding this? We could instead fund our army and conquer all of the south :) :P
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on September 06, 2018, 04:38:34 PM
Rania's been funding both when the funds were available. But now my family coffers are all dried up :-(
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 09, 2018, 09:45:08 PM
annnnd that's what I get for playing with Portals... ::)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Medron Pryde on October 09, 2018, 09:51:42 PM
HMMM?

A couple adventurers in Reeds report their portal stones evaporating in their bags.

Did you guys do something over there?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: PolarRaven on October 10, 2018, 10:50:17 AM
HMMM?

A couple adventurers in Reeds report their portal stones evaporating in their bags.

Did you guys do something over there?
I believe that the most recent portal event was done in the Vales.
One of my advies lost a portal stone as well.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 10, 2018, 01:14:50 PM
The portal pillar of light appeared in Rines a month ago. Then suddenly it started behaving strangely when a second portal was opened in the Vale.  Something went very wrong. I don't fully understand what happened, but ive caught snippits of RPs of Templars battling daimons in Obia'Syela's capital. There's no such thing as a "normal" portal event, but I've personally not experienced one quite like this.



Rania is critically wounded. I think that since she's a hero there is a chance she may just die of her wounds. Lots of good RP lead up to the moment, though.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on October 10, 2018, 03:53:22 PM
Rania is critically wounded. I think that since she's a hero there is a chance she may just die of her wounds. Lots of good RP lead up to the moment, though.

I'd be so mad.....
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on October 10, 2018, 04:38:43 PM
No one can die from wounds. Heroes can only get hero death by dying in combat.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on October 10, 2018, 04:59:43 PM
So basically the portal event in Rines was:

WARNING, SPOILERS!!!

A dozen of talking elephant-sized chickens came from the portal and started their carnivorous spree. People are thinking those chickens are what the daimons actually look like, hence the confusion. They are in fact not sinister, they just suffer identity crisis due to never experiencing the goodness of proper birdfood and turning to human flesh for sustenence instead. Bad luck has it that a crafty (proper) daimon dressed as a trader shipped all birdfood out of Rines, so there is no salvation in sight.

I have't seen many portal events in my time, isn't that how they usually work?


I might've gotten one or two things wrong, so take it with a pinch of salt (or birdfood).

Yup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on October 10, 2018, 05:24:06 PM
I believe they were roosters, not chickens.. but other than that I would say spot on!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on October 10, 2018, 07:46:52 PM
Fun fact:

Obia'Syela Roleplays between September 5th and October 10th = 33,984 words
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone = 76,944 words

Another fun fact - September was a slow month.

Keep on being awesome dearies.  :-*
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on October 10, 2018, 08:58:33 PM
Fun fact:

Obia'Syela Roleplays between September 5th and October 10th = 33,984 words
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone = 76,944 words

Another fun fact - September was a slow month.

Keep on being awesome dearies.  :-*


By Obeah wow!
btw, im so GLAD you are saving all of this. Its a real relief. So many other realms get lazy about curating their own history and loose their identity because of it
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Blint on October 11, 2018, 03:09:33 PM
Fun fact:

Obia'Syela Roleplays between September 5th and October 10th = 33,984 words
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone = 76,944 words

Another fun fact - September was a slow month.

Keep on being awesome dearies.  :-*

It's now my goal to write meaningful Roleplays that contribute to word totals - I would love to break 257,045 in a single month (which is the largest word limit of any Harry Potter book)..
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 12, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Welp, its finally happened...


As of this morning, SOS has reached the outer limits of its ability to expand. With only 25 nobles, We control 10 regions and are in the process of To-ing another, but that's it.  :(


[Report from the administrators in Glongin:

"Your realm is running low on the number of nobility for the amount of regions it owns. If you keep conquering more regions without gaining more nobility, you will soon be unable to add more regions to your realm without a ruler or duke abandoning some first."]


On the plus side, We'll have 4 cities and plenty of regions to raid for food. On the downside, it means plans of bringing Elymon and Jidington into the fold are on hold for now.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Abstract on December 13, 2018, 07:16:38 AM
The density limit is 1.7 at the moment so with 25 nobles that should be a 14 region limit. One more noble puts it at 15 regions. Might have to be careful expanding too close to the density limit though as the limit is going to increase over time. Seeing as how it was just increased I don't think it will be any time soon.

On the topic of roleplays, I want to get some more out but haven't quite been able to. Maybe tomorrow I will continue the story I started a week ago. :P Should only need to do about four RPs then I should be ready to do a sermon which can be a co-operative RP if any are interested.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on December 17, 2018, 02:41:25 PM
Hah, Highmarch is a tiny realm, but already reached our cap... So much for being at the front line and proximity wars, we can't even aspire to conquer our neighbors because the game won't let us...

I really hope this cap never goes harsher than 2:1, because it feels fairly ridiculous. Or that the eventually hinterland mechanics bypasses this restriction.

Also feels like there should be a lower cap to this cap... like, density restrictions can't bring you max region count below, I don't know, 7-10 regions or so.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on December 18, 2018, 05:20:12 PM

Everyone sided against me on this one, but saving here for later...
The Second Founding
Nobles of the Sacred Court,
Now that Amen Telum has joined Iron, Obeah, and Keffa, We wish to begin discussing what We refer to as The Second Founding. That is, the splitting of the Sacred Realm into smaller states unified by Faith and homogenous tradition. Originally, We had intended to discuss the matter with only the Ducal Caste themselves, but We feel that the entire Court should make themselves heard here. (OOC this is all a brainstorm. Jump on in, the water’s fine!). Our intent is to split the realm three ways to at last form the Obian Trifecta:

Amen Iron:
  • The realm based around Irombro in Amen Iron would be allotted the 5 regions south of and including Rii and Ruefello.
  • This Realm would first be led by whomsoever holds the ducal circlet: Presently Grandmistress Jessica, who will likely serve as the Grand Herald of this realm.
  • Lords will have to be found for Bolkenia and Cagamir
  • This Realm will need its own Grand Council Members to include: General, Judge, and Banker. Volunteers are needed.
  • This realm will likely become the breadbasket of the Trifecta
  • [size=80%](OOC just thoughtof this but how’s Scythera for a name?! Chosen because breadbasket=farmers=reapers=scythes. Oh no, the Scytheran Inquisitors are coming! Oh noooos!)[/size]
Amen Telum:
  • The realm based around Grehk in Amen Telum would the 5 regions stretching from Ardmore to Kuugl.
  • This Realm would first be led by whomsoever holds the ducal circlet: Presently Grand Templar Vahanian
  • Lord Herald Eva will transfer the banner of Ardmore here, and serve as the Grand Herald of this realm.
  • Lords will need to be found for Glongin, Mio Dupaki, Bym, and Kuugl
  • This Realm will need its own Grand Council Members to include: General, Judge, and Banker. Volunteers are needed.
  • This realm will be the first Obian line of defense against any invader and will be the springboard from which Elymon and Jidington will eventually be colonized[size=80%](OOC just thought of this but how’s Telumasca for a name?! Oh no, the Telumascan Templars are coming! Oh noooos!)[/size]
Sacred Obia'Syela - The Motherland
  • Compromised of both Amen Keffa and Amen Obeah, would retain Our original borders: 5 regions including and north of Avengmil.
  • A Lord will need to be found for Cjelegy as Lord Boltgan may be going South at the invitation of the Iron Duchess.
  • The Lightbringer army will be disbanded. The Farseers will be the only sponsored army in the Motherland.
Knights who are not lords will be granted a 200-gold stipend directly from the Herald’s treasury if they commit to joining either one of these new ventures. The Trifecta Realms would be bound to sign that treaty and uphold the Accords. Beyond that, their traditions, titles, ambitions, and individual cultures shall be their own, though their spirit shall remain with the Veiled Goddess. Their goal would be to grow their number of nobles to 10-15 if possible. Together, three such realms WILL be enough to resist the next Daimonic invasion. Moreover, the fires of Our civilization will burn so brightly that nobles will be drawn to the gravity of Our great union. The Heralds of Obeah will function as the unifying hub of communication between these three realms so that in essence, We will form one Grand Realm against the coming dark.

We welcome your contributions to the discussion thus far. We chose rightly to bring the matter before you all. Our thoughts, however, remain unchanged: The realm should be split into three as soon as possible. While We understand the hesitation, We do not agree with it. It remains Our view that the benefits to splitting far outweigh risks and the difficulties involved.

In the beginning, We were entirely alone. “Grand” in name only, and mistress of a single small city in the heartlands: Keffa. We were alone, but not for long, and within weeks Our kingdom took shape as houses like Blint and Gildre heeded Our summons. How many of you were with Us during the Great Pilgrimage? We know. We can count your number on the fingers of one hand. Keffa, Our capital, the only region of Obeah, burned behind us as Jomorosh and his daimonic warhost devoured the faithful by the thousand. Sacrificed so that hope could be reborn in Rines. There, again, We were alone. Rines was a necropolis. The dead were everywhere and the peasants’ numbered not more than 800. All living in fear, rags, and hunger. We were alone, Our knights scattered and displaced through the long Pilgrimage until houses like Stark and D’Este leant their weight to Our cause. All of this, Everything We have as a nation, sprouted from nothing but Faith. If any of you lack faith in Our Vision, look around, for you are standing in but a chapter of it. Time soon to turn the page. While it need not be done today, the process must begin soon. We are on borrowed time. One does not need to have faith in Our visions to have faith in the fact that the Daimons will never stop clawing to pierce the Veil. Sooner or later, they will. Hope for later, but prepare for sooner. We remind you all of this before any of you try to say again that what We propose now cannot yet be done. It can. And by Obeah, it will be.

Consider: Where We were on Our own, you will have all the power of Rines to support you. Where we had to build up the infrastructure stone by stone to even build an army, You already have two, and infrastructure built in both cities to ensure access to more. Where We had no gold and relied entirely upon Our family fortunes to get by, you will have the mercantile might of the Amen Keffa to make sure your troops get paid while your new realms grow around you. Where we were forced to hold every council position Ourselves, in addition to Our titles as Duchess, Margravine, and Oracle, it was because there was no one else ready to share Our burdens, whereas you will have your comrades with you from the start. Where We were forced to suffer the constant depredations and indignities of rogue assaults freshly buoyed by the still-ongoing Invasion, you will have the Farseers army to call upon if ever you feel overwhelmed. If you do not have faith in Our Vision, have Faith in Us and the fact that We will do everything in Our power to ensure it is so. We do not have the ideal amount of knights, to be sure, but We have enough.
With that being said, allow us to detail Our vision further:
  • Duke Blint will secede with Amen Telum and Lord Herald Eva, as mistress of Ardmore, will join him. Her knight, Dame Mariana, will follow. Amen Telum will begin with 3 nobles by default and a wealthy rural that will be more than enough to feed Grehk as it grows. Add to that at least two more volunteers from the Motherland and you have a more than viable realm. That makes the initial region density 5:2 to start, and they can expand at their own pace.
  • Duke Stark will secede with Amen Iron, taking Lords Felmoure of Rii and Tom of Rueffilo with him. Lord Tom’s knight, Sir Connor, would follow. Amen Iron will begin with 4 nobles by default and two wealthy rurals to support Irombro’s continued growth. Add to that at least one more volunteer from the Motherland and you have a more than viable realm. That makes the initial region density 5:3 to start, and they can expand at their own pace.
  • This arrangement leaves the Motherland with 15 nobles. We could spare 5 more volunteers and at merely 10 the Motherland would Still have more nobles than other nations on this very continent. We can spare as many as 9. Each realm would have more than the baseline 1 noble per region (1:1). The Dukes-turned-rulers can place as much or as little power in the hands of their lords and knights as they choose, their rulership style does not concern Us so long as [[Obia’Syela/Trifecta|the Accords are adhered to]]. As far as We are concerned, they can compete to entice additional knights from the Motherland to serve them. It all serves the Veiled Goddess in the end.
  • The temples of the Heralds of Obeah will unite the kingdoms in communication as every landowner of the Sacred Realm is already a member of the faith by law. This includes ALL of our military commanders, economic strategists, and of course the Heralds themselves. The multiplying of titles need not result in a bloating of bureaucracy so long as a central hierarchy is maintained within the church. We will see to that personally.
  • The Motherland, using Our elite Farseer army, will take the responsibility of defending her Children until they are strong enough to stand on their own. You all heard the Bells. You’ve all seen the reports of monsters and undead shuffling back into the sea. It is a blessing, yes, a reprieve from the struggles that have been our Bane for decades. But it is also a challenge, a divine one, to see just how much We can grow in their absences and every day is precious in that regard…because We know that days of peace will surely be limited. In the meantime, Dukes Blint and Stark will sponsor their own armies to compete with Ours, and be authorized to use the royal We as We Ourselves do.
  • We have no fear of treachery as We love and cherish Our people. We would no more believe that Dukes Blint or Stark could turn on Us as We would believe Our own two hands harbored ill will towards Us. And even if they did, if both went mad and rose against Us, what army of theirs could challenge the power of Rines or the might of the Farseers? Even were such evil ambitions to worm its way into the heart of both trusted men, it would take years. And if they ever were confident in a campaign against Us, it will be because their realms were successfully nurtured from this very point, which would rather make further deliberation against the merits of Our plan rather moot.
  • Rines will grow hungry, this is true, but that test of faith is a familiar one for Our people, and they have remained stalwart through worse. Besides We trust Lords Eva, Tom, and Felmoure to ensure that their harvests are made available. We trust their dukes to ensure it. We trust Duke Blint to send raiding expeditions West, and We can send the Farseers themselves to do the same if necessary.
  • We understand that knights on the frontiers cannot afford the same units as those of Rines. We will personally ensure that Duke Blint and Stark will have gold requests fulfilled as often as possible. Given the army’s’ current gold requirements, it is feasible.
  • Titles are not candy to be handed out at request or thrown at passerby. For all We care, Dukes Blint and Stark can follow in Our footsteps and hold all of the realm titles until one of their personal court is ready to step up and share the burden of leadership. If We did it, THEY can do it. We Ourselves will assume any vacancies remaining in the Motherland if none of Our remaining court will aid us.
  • There are temples for the Heralds of Obeah in every region currently in Our domain, and more outside Our borders. Planted like seeds by Heralds past and present. Unlike Us, you will never be alone or without access to food, funds, and family through faith.
We want this discussion to continue, and have outlined Our vision to the best of Our ability. We invite critique, questions, and council. Change Our mind, if you believe your argument decisive enough. Currently, Ultimately, From Our perspective, all that will really change is the color of the map and how We address Our letters. With were you, the knights of the Sacred Court, any less united in faith and tradition, were you any other people, We would have doubts. But you are Obians, so doubt We do not. The knights of other, lesser nations stop at “difficult.” The knights of Obeah dare more. In place of doubt, We have faith. Faith in the Veiled Goddess, faith in Ourselves, and We have faith in each of you.

Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on January 16, 2019, 07:11:01 PM
There are 3 shrines and a magnificent temple in Rines, but the faithful population refuses to grow without constant and repeated preaching. Aren't these buildings supposed to help the religion spread? is there a breakdown anywhere of how much a shrine or the various temple levels contribute in terms of converting the populace each turn?


Is there much of a point to building shrines at all?
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on January 16, 2019, 07:20:56 PM
Shrines spread local faith to neighbouring regions.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on January 16, 2019, 07:22:07 PM
Temples cap the follower count. Have you looked up the limit on the wiki to compare it?

It seems like a fairly ridiculously hard cap, if I look at Wudenkin. Follower % is pretty much almost exactly what the temple allows.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on January 16, 2019, 08:34:12 PM
I don't think temples cap follower count. There is a cap to how many of those followers can attend the temple though.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on January 16, 2019, 08:39:28 PM
Shrines only affect neighboring regions? Would that mean that the shrines neighboring Rines are spreading the faith to Rines? Also, to confirm, Temples do nothing to increase the number of faithful?

@Chernier, re-checked and you're right, The MT only gets up to a certain number. I thought I was a tier higher than that sooo problem solved!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on January 16, 2019, 08:40:35 PM
I don't think temples cap follower count. There is a cap to how many of those followers can attend the temple though.

The language on the wiki does seem to suggest a cap. I'll raise the temple level in Rines and test it out to confirm by next week!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Chenier on January 16, 2019, 09:02:02 PM
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Priest_Game#Temples_and_Shrines

There's a cap. It isn't "preaching won't allow followers to rise above X cap", but a semi-softer "followers above this cap will very quickly lose faith".
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Anaris on January 16, 2019, 09:21:31 PM
Temples absolutely do cap follower count, in ways I've wanted to fix for years but haven't found the time or the math to manage.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Vita` on January 17, 2019, 02:06:42 AM
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Priest_Game#Temples_and_Shrines

There's a cap. It isn't "preaching won't allow followers to rise above X cap", but a semi-softer "followers above this cap will very quickly lose faith".
Ah yes, I recall this now.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on February 20, 2019, 05:33:12 PM
With the acquisition of Jidington, SOS Phase I is pretty much done and my territorial ambitions are all but complete. now to review/revise the tax structure, host this tournament, and get all my other lil ducks in a row for Phase II...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on March 01, 2019, 06:32:42 PM
 ::)

So... that does not sound ominous at all.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on March 01, 2019, 09:51:54 PM
Don't worry about it. Since Dukes don't have power anymore, this is pushed back indefinitely. Rania will be 90 before I hit Phase II now. Provided some other game mechanic ste back doesn't inhibit her further.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on March 02, 2019, 03:54:23 PM
Don't worry your earlobes about it. No good plan has to work in order to work. Though I have a sinking suspicion that this particular one will work out even better than intended in the end.

After all you now have some pretty resourceful resources at your disposal now. Quality over quantity thing and all...

hint, hint,  nudge, nudge
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Greybrook on March 05, 2019, 09:40:50 AM
While I haven't always 100% been behind this plan (as you all very well know), mechanically you could still make it happen. Rania has the power to do alot of things. Moving regions around to join Telum would not be out of your reach.
With all the work you have put into this, you should not sign off on the idea of yours just yet. While I don't recommend it, it is possible.
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on March 07, 2019, 12:59:29 AM
Yeah it really got to me...Gildre chewed me out for that so i took the weekend to cool off.


In the end my plans are unchanged. Just unduly delayed for no good reason.

Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Greybrook on March 20, 2019, 11:20:11 AM
New Grandmistress, new chapter for the Theocracy. Wonder how this will change things up?
I am also loving all the new faces joining the realm!
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 02, 2019, 06:22:43 PM
Eva's really taken the reigns well. She seems to have all of Jessica's deftness, and more of her own traits besides. Let's hope her plan is to fill and widen the shoes of her predecessor!


Something about having "Grand" in the their title has had an unfortunate trend of effect on Obian council members...
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: Medron Pryde on April 03, 2019, 03:16:33 AM
She does appear to have plans.  :)
Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: JeVondair on April 24, 2019, 06:47:06 PM
So ends the life of Stheno, daughter of Rania.


(http://wiki.battlemaster.org/images/thumb/Stheno-adult.jpeg/269px-Stheno-adult.jpeg)
(http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/File:Stheno-adult.jpeg)


Title: Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
Post by: MTYL on April 28, 2019, 10:35:19 PM
 
So ends the life of Stheno, daughter of Rania.


(http://wiki.battlemaster.org/images/thumb/Stheno-adult.jpeg/269px-Stheno-adult.jpeg)
(http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/File:Stheno-adult.jpeg)




 :'(

I still hope you'll do your JeVondair thing and Gandalfize her.


In other news:

NEW REALM FOLKS! COME AND JOIN!

With 15 nobles requirement this might be the last chance to create a new realm. Don't miss it.