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BattleMaster => Locals => Dwilight => Topic started by: Chenier on May 01, 2017, 06:41:57 PM
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Do it, Jonn Dodger! Do it! ;D
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Details?
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Jonn Dodger didn't have his army put out their campfires, and now there's a forest fire raging across north-east Dwilight.
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Two days ago:
Letter from Jonn Dodger
Message sent to the Rulers of Dwilight (11 recipients)
Grand Duke Gary,
As mentioned previously, the Khalkar will not accomodate delay tactics in this matter. You have until next sunset to offer a reasonable settlement for Zhongyuan and Linhai. If you fail to offer a reasonable settlement we will be forced to declare war.
Jonn Dodger
Khalkar Warleader of Westfold
Royal of Westfold
Duke of Unterstrom
Margrave of Unterstrom
Marshal of the Khalkar Spear of Westfold
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lolwut Didn't Westfold benefit from HD's regions and now they're trying to get Morek to give regions back, but not the regions Westfold received?
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Totally not an excuse. You could as well ask Morek to offer reasonable settlement for Morek.
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Do it, Westfold, do it!
Do it! Do it! Do it!
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When was the last time there was a good war? Hard to remember.
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Looks like Morek got nailed for multi-accounting. Oh boy...
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The art of fighting without fighting 8)
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Urgh.
Anyone has a summary of how many accounts were locked per realm?
How bad was the multi infestation in Morek?
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We had two multis in Avernus. There was also a long-running joke that they were brothers... we we're far off ::)
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The art of fighting without fighting 8)
Mr. Goodguy Dodger promises a war for the last weeks/months.
Goes signing peace treaties. :-X :-\
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Looks like Morek is gonna be (overly) reasonable. Not that unexpected if they've just been hit with multi locking, that tends to mess up one's realm and military.
A pity.
Though Westfold and Astrum could still fight it out.
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Jonn Dodger didn't have his army put out their campfires, and now there's a forest fire raging across north-east Dwilight.
Saw Westfold army on the scout report, that was not for campfires show and tell :o
lolwut Didn't Westfold benefit from HD's regions and now they're trying to get Morek to give regions back, but not the regions Westfold received?
Funny, but at this point of BM history and Dwilight history, my character as Grand Duke of Morek is not able to argue much with Westfold.
Urgh.
Anyone has a summary of how many accounts were locked per realm?
How bad was the multi infestation in Morek?
5 different family characters in Morek were affected.
Looks like Morek is gonna be (overly) reasonable. Not that unexpected if they've just been hit with multi locking, that tends to mess up one's realm and military.
A pity.
Yes, my character has to admit defeat in victory, whatever that means. Even taking over Zhongyuan and Linhai does not sound like Morek achievements anymore. Expect region tradeoff given what left of Morek ;)
I recall a Pirates of Caribbean movie quote:
You can fight and all of you will die, or you can surrender in which case only most of you will die ::)
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What was on the scout reports?
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What was on the scout reports?
One little two little three Khalkar unit names,
Four little five little six Khalkar unit names,
Seven little eight little nine Khalkar unit names,
Basically Westfold army mobile 8)
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One little two little three Khalkar unit names,
Four little five little six Khalkar unit names,
Seven little eight little nine Khalkar unit names,
Basically Westfold army mobile 8)
We were just playing around! I swear!
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But... how big was it? :P
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We really should crush Morek given that on EC Nivemus is invading OI when they were a victim of the same multiplague. But we won't. It does render all the complaining/fate-bemoaning rather hollow though.
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Go for it 8)
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What's a warleader without a war?
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The real question is, what's a war without a Warleader?
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Morek taking the battle out of battlemaster.
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Pfff, Morek is a non-entity. Just go attack Astrum already and stop putting the blame on others.
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But... how big was it? :P
Very big, enough to defeat Morek current army. By "current army", I mean after that plague that killed many of Morek nobles.
We really should crush Morek given that on EC Nivemus is invading OI when they were a victim of the same multiplague. But we won't. It does render all the complaining/fate-bemoaning rather hollow though.
Let just separate IC and OOC, shall we? As on EC, OI ruler never say anything about plague struck their nobles IC. OOC we know but that OOC multiaccount character caused Nivemus loss of Kazakh city. So to say Nivemus is nice and all good with OI relations and won't attack OI, you are putting it wrong.
Morek taking the battle out of battlemaster.
Do excuse me as the plague killed half of the Morek army. As its ruler, I have to do the best decision for the realm and it is never an easy one.
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Very big, enough to defeat Morek current army. By "current army", I mean after that plague that killed many of Morek nobles.
That's... contradictory. "Very big" is hardly required to defeat Morek's post-lock army... Morek and Arnor are tied for the continent's third weakest nations.
Why are people so timid to share any actual numbers about things that happened now a while ago and which were common knowledge for anyone for which it would matter?
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That's... contradictory. "Very big" is hardly required to defeat Morek's post-lock army... Morek and Arnor are tied for the continent's third weakest nations.
Why are people so timid to share any actual numbers about things that happened now a while ago and which were common knowledge for anyone for which it would matter?
Hmm, let see. The war period had Morek army stood at 7K CS-8K CS, able to match up to HD army. Westfold we can see from military statistics report stood at around 9K CS - 10K CS. If war-period Morek army was to fight Westfold one to one, both sides should have a balanced war without other realms joining in. However at current post-war-period Morek army, that was down half if you count the nobles number which have been reduced pretty much in Morek realm. Elsewhere other realm maybe lost 1 or 2 nobles due to multi account, which may come out to 1K CS for a high-honor noble or 500 CS for new noble. So if Westfold at its current strength still unchanged versus Morek post-war-period, Morek will lose and lose very badly. Morek will lose what it gained during the war with HD, Zhongyuan, Linhai and even Cailyn. I am looking realistically given the information I have as you may see now.
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Well yea, Morek was a tiny realm before the locks, now it's pretty insignificant military-wise. It's more akin to pre-WW1 Serbia. You don't expect them to crush anyone's army, but they are surrounded by powers just itching for a fight. :P
Morek might or might not recover, but there's very little left standing, a bunch of flags on rotten poles. So I'm not sure where Graeth is coming from to place any blame for any future events on Morek. Westfold, Astrum, and Luria are just looking for excuses to fight each other, and have already given each other plenty. About time they stop their "holier than thou" posture and just act on their thinly-veiled ambitions.
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Interesting plague that kills only those of noble blood instantly and only in a specific realm...
So it spreads real quick for a very short time or something? :P
Whats wrong with punishment from the gods? or black magic?
Its always fun to execute someone for it, put all the blame on that one person, that's what we humans do when tragedy strikes, offer a scapegoat.
Who knows, if you don't the problem will return? :P
Just crucify someone!
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If Astrum would just absorb Morek, it'd be one hell of a beast.
Westfold could try to absorb HD.
Then again, small realms are good for sparking forest fires.
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So I'm not sure where Graeth is coming from to place any blame for any future events on Morek.
To be honest, I didn't realize how low Morek's numbers were, even with their multi getting caught.
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Interesting plague that kills only those of noble blood instantly and only in a specific realm...
So it spreads real quick for a very short time or something? :P
Whats wrong with punishment from the gods? or black magic?
Its always fun to execute someone for it, put all the blame on that one person, that's what we humans do when tragedy strikes, offer a scapegoat.
Who knows, if you don't the problem will return? :P
Just crucify someone!
Crucify someone in the name of Bloodstars? Now that could work if you have enough nobles for all Government Positions. Now you see where I come from, a small realm as Chenier has stated. But my character has not turned insane and mad yet, not by Bloodstars :P
If Astrum would just absorb Morek, it'd be one hell of a beast.
Westfold could try to absorb HD.
Then again, small realms are good for sparking forest fires.
Agree fully with you on this part. But then Astrum will become too big for its own good.
And forest fires and camp fires should go along together ;)
To be honest, I didn't realize how low Morek's numbers were, even with their multi getting caught.
No worry about that :)
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Well, there's always Luria, which currently has the strongest economy of the continent. And a stupidly favorable geography. And while Astrum has a good advance on everyone in terms of CS, who knows how much of that is militia in its cities and other random regions. Add in the distance, and what was seen in the past, Luria could challenge Astrum. Even if it absorbed Morek, I'd reckon.
Then you could add in the rest of the continent. It'd be a fantastic opportunity for Fissoa and Madina to get involved, for example.
Pffff, as if. ::)
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If Astrum would just absorb Morek, it'd be one hell of a beast.
Westfold could try to absorb HD.
Then again, small realms are good for sparking forest fires.
Yeah, the whole large realm thing doesn't work out well for the rest of the island's players.
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Yeah, the whole large realm thing doesn't work out well for the rest of the island's players.
It's really hard to predict, I don't think there are hard rules of how realms of a certain size will influence global politics.
Realms being too small can also hinder warfare by their inability to conquer cities. And there's always the "why take more regions, we already don't have enough nobles for all of our regions", which is worse in realms with few players.
Behemoths can snuff out conflict... but they also have the means to spark them, unlike micro states who cannot snuff out conflict, but do not really have the means to spark them. The HD vs Morek conflict can only escalate as much as the bigger nations want it to.
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Small allies are better than one big realm if they are coordinated.
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Small allies are better than one big realm if they are coordinated.
*insert xavax joke*
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Small allies are better than one big realm if they are coordinated.
A collection of small realms will have, theoretically, an economic advantage through higher tax tolerance. A larger realm, however, will always have an easier time coordinating multiple armies when required, and a large blob of death when needed. How it plays out really depends on the players involved.
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Small realms tend to be more self motivated and cohesive. Big realms tend to have a lot more zombies and leeches.
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Damn my rhymes are fresh without even realizing
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Small realms tend to be more self motivated and cohesive. Big realms tend to have a lot more zombies and leeches.
I used to think as much, I no longer do. Especially since the limit was brought down to 1 character per continent.
Density is what helps the most, imo, and while smaller realms used to be more dense, that hasn't really been the case in quite a while.
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molly percocet kill your whole government
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And the powder keg has finally been lit! It reminds me of my blitz against Fronen when their General was being mean, and my army just happened to be set on murderous and killed them along with their army, though of course that was successful. 8)
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As a player, I have to take my hat off to Dodger. He did what he say would happen. As my character though, he is annoyed that it really happened ;)
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Boom boom.
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Wait, how did Unterstrom join Avernus? It's the capital, and only city of the realm. I thought there were restrictions against that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99_nk2oY-9E
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Guess it's the portal gettin' ready to suck up a ton of people. XD
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Wait, how did Unterstrom join Avernus? It's the capital, and only city of the realm. I thought there were restrictions against that.
8)
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doesn't really matter. the city is too far from the capital and it will revolt in a couple weeks.
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:-X
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Bug has been posted. Shouldn't have been possible. But what's done is done.
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Ironically, this means that Astrum can switch to defensive settings and walk into Unterstrom without a battle. They can then declare war once they have 100% of their troops in place (no stragglers), and I wouldn't be surprised if some funkiness results in a battle without walls (I seem to recall similar funkyness in the past).
If the city is SA, they can send in a priest without worry of arrest, since they aren't currently at war with Avernus. Kicking the lord out would allow for the region to be bought.
It's still technically Swordfell's capital though.