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Title: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Barrett on October 17, 2017, 12:59:16 AM
Let us talk about the glorious new realm that has been planned and now split off from Vix Tiramora like chopped carrots! Your reactions? SHOCK? HORROR? INTEREST? Post your thoughts or opinions on the new realm here!
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: MTYL on October 17, 2017, 01:17:32 AM
HORROR!

It will conquer the lands of Caligus and Eponlyn and split two new democratic realms! Which in turn will conquer the lands of Nivemus and Sirion and split another two! Future is democracy! Democracy is future!

Seriously now, I think everyone knew about it happening before it happened. Still I believe it is a bit of a hurricane, because suddenly there's like 11 opportunities for stuff turning around and power-blocks shifting. Imho much more interesting than static north vs south. Finally some opening for politics and diplomacy to take place and not only warfare.



PS. I was hyperbolic about the 11 opportunities, there are just 10 but I dislike round numbers.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 17, 2017, 01:28:44 AM
democrats spreading like a wildfire!
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Ketchum on October 17, 2017, 03:14:44 AM
Brock is watching with interests. Look like a new realm with Garas in it! @.@
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Vyanthi on October 17, 2017, 10:17:51 AM
Gotta love that new realm smell!
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: DoctorHarte on October 17, 2017, 07:23:46 PM
I wish I could march around high  ::)
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 17, 2017, 07:35:56 PM
Quote from: DoctorHarte on October 17, 2017, 07:23:46 PM
I wish I could march around high  ::)

Or be High while marching?
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: feyeleanor on October 19, 2017, 01:29:33 AM
If it ain't as noisy as Fontan it ain't democracy  ;)
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: DeVerci on October 19, 2017, 02:10:03 AM
IF YOU WANT LOUD, WE WILL GIVE YOU LOUD
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: MTYL on October 19, 2017, 11:47:54 PM
I like to privately call them HighMarchians and pronounce it High Martians. :D
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 20, 2017, 01:58:27 AM
I actually thought this realm was called High Marsh at first.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Antonine on October 20, 2017, 06:06:14 PM
For the record, my proposed name for this realm was Highmark, precisely to avoid this kind of issue :p

Sadly people went for the Highmarch variant which I mentioned in passing as an alternative form of the same name...
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 23, 2017, 09:42:48 AM
And Highmarch keeps gaining new nobles. Will it ever stop?
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 23, 2017, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: Gabanus family on October 23, 2017, 09:42:48 AM
And Highmarch keeps gaining new nobles. Will it ever stop?

I am not sure which one is better. Vix or Highmarch.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Nosferatus on October 23, 2017, 09:47:45 AM
Quote from: Anderfhstim on October 23, 2017, 09:45:44 AM
I am not sure which one is better. Vix or Highmarch.

Perdan is now down to 9 nobles, that must a record low for the realm ever.
Did those nobles all come from Vix and Perdan?
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Wimpie on October 23, 2017, 10:12:54 AM
Quote from: Anderfhstim on October 23, 2017, 09:45:44 AM
I am not sure which one is better. Vix or Highmarch.

Vix, quite obviously!
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 23, 2017, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: Nosferatus on October 23, 2017, 09:47:45 AM
Perdan is now down to 9 nobles, that must a record low for the realm ever.
Did those nobles all come from Vix and Perdan?

I'm not sure any came from Perdan tbh but there are also several Oligarchians inside Highmarch and 2 new chars entirely.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 23, 2017, 12:08:53 PM
I wonder what happened to Perdan. Used to have so many players but they seem to fail to capture people these days.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on October 23, 2017, 06:54:48 PM
I believe Atanamir was behind a lot of people... they used to coordinated by means other than the BM. When he lost the character, many went with him.

Andddd I'm wounded AGAIN. Two in one day. I'm trying to return to BM, but the game itself like to put me away  :'(
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Chenier on October 23, 2017, 07:07:36 PM
Quote from: Eduardo Almighty on October 23, 2017, 06:54:48 PM
I believe Atanamir was behind a lot of people... they used to coordinated by means other than the BM. When he lost the character, many went with him.

Andddd I'm wounded AGAIN. Two in one day. I'm trying to return to BM, but the game itself like to put me away  :'(

Same.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 23, 2017, 09:15:42 PM
Eduardo, it will be fixed, just not sure when.

Quote from: Anaris on October 23, 2017, 02:07:24 PM
I'm going to make it:

  • 2 months or less: no wounds/insta-heal
  • 2-4 months: only the most minor wounds
  • 4-6 months: all wounds quick-heal
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Antonine on October 24, 2017, 07:45:13 AM
Well, the duchy of Perdan just joined Highmarch...
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Antonine on October 24, 2017, 07:46:18 AM
*No ingame messages please that have information with ingame consequences*

Summary of the post: The Duke of Perdan said hello to Highmarch
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Vyanthi on October 24, 2017, 07:53:36 AM
ZOMG

Jarin gets injured and THIS happens!?

I hope they stay. I like R5 SF.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Antonine on October 24, 2017, 09:42:45 AM
Quote from: Vyanthi on October 24, 2017, 07:53:36 AM
ZOMG

Jarin gets injured and THIS happens!?

I hope they stay. I like R5 SF.

Me too. Apparently the duke of Perdan was bored with his old realm.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 24, 2017, 10:46:33 AM
Yeah I think it shocked just about everyone. I woke uo and just thought "Oh no, even more stuff to deal with now"
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on October 24, 2017, 11:24:01 AM
And I missed the whole offense feast in Sordidus.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 24, 2017, 11:59:14 AM
That's a good thing I think for Highmarch and the south. Others have taken over the banter.

30 wounded nobles in Sordidus btw atm and then a few in Visue as well. This was absolute carnage. Can't remember seeing so many wounded nobles for a very very long time.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on October 24, 2017, 12:29:37 PM
I'm glad they will change the mechanics. It seems that statistically, this system did not consider that we have fewer characters now. So, a wound for everyone!
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 24, 2017, 11:11:27 PM
Yeah. 30 seems a bit too high...
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Chenier on October 25, 2017, 02:28:47 AM
Yea, first battle, unending wounds.

It wouldn't be so bad if the wounds at least healed. But more often than not, they don't heal, and they seem to worsen more often than they lessen. Normal wound = 4 days out, basically.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: McTang on October 25, 2017, 03:07:22 AM
Jang is up to 150 messages from her wound and I figure she's got at least two more days on the sidelines. She's gonna have a novel to read by the time she's back!
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Chenier on October 25, 2017, 03:32:57 AM
Yea I got rekt in the battle of Sordidus. About 100 messages unread, despite reading as many as I can. So much out of context, which I'll never unmix.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: MTYL on October 25, 2017, 05:35:24 AM
And Sordidus finally earned its name. (sordidus - lac. dirty, filthy)

At the peak moment there was what - 60-70 nobles in the region? Half of them wounded? Total of 4-5k casualties over the last 3-4 battles?
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 25, 2017, 05:52:22 AM
Looks like Perdan is pretty much dead. One of the dukes just joined Eponllyn out of all places.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Purrcious on October 25, 2017, 06:01:40 AM
Continental War, Perdan Civil War, Treacheries and Betrayal, a rogue queen, Purrcious floof still pretty.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Antonine on October 25, 2017, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: Anderfhstim on October 25, 2017, 05:52:22 AM
Looks like Perdan is pretty much dead. One of the dukes just joined Eponllyn out of all places.

No, not just one of their dukes. Their KING just joined Eponllyn of all places.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 25, 2017, 09:49:51 AM
Quote from: Antonine on October 25, 2017, 09:35:27 AM
No, not just one of their dukes. Their KING just joined Eponllyn of all places.
Oh... wth...
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on October 25, 2017, 11:24:34 AM
Adios, Perdan.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 25, 2017, 11:29:44 AM
Adios EC you mean
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on October 25, 2017, 12:00:47 PM
Why? There's Vix and Highmarch. Just run over Caligus, try to take lands around Karbala and you can have a new agressive realm at Sirion's doors. I would say Vix has been very successful. The problem is that Sirion is so stable that whenever a kingdom dies, they go straight to Sirion, which makes new kingdoms grateful... well, some time gratitude must goes away. Maybe it's a matter of waiting or changing the mentality of the players. More allies, less war.

I do not know if Sirion being Sirion is worse than what happened to Perdan.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 25, 2017, 12:05:59 PM
North already had a pretty big numerical advantage and now that Bescanon is theirs including its 15k militia the entire backland of Vix/Highmarch is open plus the difference in nobles widened further.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on October 25, 2017, 12:15:06 PM
Well, it's time to put someone out of the game or negotiate a ceasefire. Garas don't have a Queen in Nivemus?

Sirion have a lot of regions in terrible conditions. My char already tried to convince Ivo to give him some people to take care of the lands, but I don't think they care while the cities doesn't starve.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Anderfhstim on October 25, 2017, 12:26:21 PM
I think you can truly feel the current state of the game from the current war. There is a big shortage of people to fill the regions. So many regions are left unattended.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Antonine on October 25, 2017, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: Anderfhstim on October 25, 2017, 12:26:21 PM
I think you can truly feel the current state of the game from the current war. There is a big shortage of people to fill the regions. So many regions are left unattended.

Yup. Though it's also partly due to nobles being concentrated in the wrong places. Sirion has lots of nobles but it still has plenty of rogue regions because its leadership is rotten.

Meanwhile realms like Perdan would probably be fine if they just had a few more nobles.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Purrcious on October 25, 2017, 02:57:47 PM
Lord Garas, the fun has just began!
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Antonine on October 25, 2017, 03:17:50 PM
Tbh, some of the most fun I've had in the game has been spent losing wars :p
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: DoctorHarte on October 25, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: Gabanus family on October 25, 2017, 12:05:59 PM
North already had a pretty big numerical advantage and now that Bescanon is theirs including its 15k militia the entire backland of Vix/Highmarch is open plus the difference in nobles widened further.

Pretty sure you can win wars with less gold, nobles, and regions. I've seen it done multiple times in this game. It all comes down to team work and communication. This war is far from over and Bescannon's little switch won't cause the South the collapse.

This is why I don't want Garas to be Lead Marshal. Needs a little more faith in our Democracies than just look at the statistics...
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 25, 2017, 05:37:24 PM
Hehe don't worry if IGaras leads he leads for victory. (Might not be the case for all my chars). But the next 2 weeks will be very critical. And saying that we can win and proposing concrete plans on how to are generally quite a different things alltogether  ;)
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: DoctorHarte on October 25, 2017, 05:46:46 PM
I am not posting any plans on how we will win in here  ::)
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 25, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Then send them to the elders. So far I've seen nobody willing to take on this !@#$ job haha. I remember well from the last time, even if you do well you still get !@#$ on hehe.

But for real, I'm curious to read the 70+ remaining letters (and still counting upwards) when Garas recovers.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on October 25, 2017, 08:26:58 PM
Hrafn just entered the discussion in Sordidus and I'm still feeling I arrived too late for the party.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Gabanus family on October 25, 2017, 10:28:38 PM
That's because just about everyone else is wounded. I doubt there is much of a discussion left atm?
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Chenier on October 26, 2017, 02:30:26 AM
Still enough, I guess? I think I have 30 more messages stacked on my unread list since yesterday.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: CryptCypher on November 10, 2017, 03:04:03 AM
What's the deal with this region that just defected to Highmarch? From... Epon, I think? What're y'all up to :P
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: DeVerci on November 10, 2017, 03:15:36 AM
The duke defected to Eponllyn because he was mad at Perdan's other Duke for defecting to Highmarch, but he realized he overreacted so he defected back, but to Highmarch instead of Perdan.
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: MTYL on November 10, 2017, 09:53:09 AM
Will Perdan disappear to voluntary assimilation? Will Caligus disappear to war? Will Highmarch conquer half the continent? So young, so successful. Democracy on EC is proliferous in nature, will the young Highmarch bud a new democracy somewhere in Perdan or Fontan? Highmarch is successfuller than Vix, will the new realm be successfuller than Highmarch? Will it assimilate more regions and spawn another democracy? Is democracy on EC The Borg? Would that make Vix the original Borg?
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: CryptCypher on November 10, 2017, 10:41:34 AM
If only y'all could 'Murica the Xavax into embracing democracy. Now that'd be the borg... *shudder*
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Purrcious on November 11, 2017, 03:23:11 AM
In the end, will Purrcious witness EC turning into a democratic continent achieving Vix's dream...

And then implode with war against allies and each other. Offspring realm devouring their mother realm all in a glorious giant explosion of egos and betrayal?


Purrcious could only dream  ;D
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Chenier on November 11, 2017, 03:36:45 AM
Highmarch will annex Vix and create Xivax
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: feyeleanor on November 11, 2017, 12:53:54 PM
EC has been down this path before. Fontan held 10 duchies at one point and was such a danger to both Perdan and Sirion that they buried their lifelong animosity and allied to bring her down. Ultimately though it was internal dissent over secretive military planning which ripped her apart.

Vix and Highmarch are both much smaller realms in noble count so perhaps they can avoid similar internal conflicts. But perhaps not. When democracies implode they really do it in style...
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: DeVerci on November 11, 2017, 03:54:43 PM
Since we're also joking about the evil-Highmarch alternative timeline, here's a little something my fellow fantasy-RTS nerds might understand ;)
Title: Re: Democratic State of Highmarch
Post by: Chenier on December 19, 2017, 04:11:00 AM
Quote from: feyeleanor on November 11, 2017, 12:53:54 PM
EC has been down this path before. Fontan held 10 duchies at one point and was such a danger to both Perdan and Sirion that they buried their lifelong animosity and allied to bring her down. Ultimately though it was internal dissent over secretive military planning which ripped her apart.

Vix and Highmarch are both much smaller realms in noble count so perhaps they can avoid similar internal conflicts. But perhaps not. When democracies implode they really do it in style...

Highmarch can't implode, we'll have a constitution soon!  ::)