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BattleMaster => Development => Topic started by: Constantine on May 02, 2018, 04:18:45 PM

Title: Complete mechanical immunity hurts the game
Post by: Constantine on May 02, 2018, 04:18:45 PM

So apparently there are positions in the game that are absolutely immune to all and any players' actions.
If you are a duke and a governor of a city and a royal, but not a king, there is literally no way to remove you from this position.
This leads to a situation when a player gone rogue can really harm the realm in an ugly way and nothing can be done about that.

I do not understand why it is done this way and why it makes sense. There should be no 100% immune offices, especially this powerful.

Title: Re: Complete mechanical immunity hurts the game
Post by: Stabbity on May 04, 2018, 07:34:30 PM

Quote from: Constantine on May 02, 2018, 04:18:45 PM

So apparently there are positions in the game that are absolutely immune to all and any players' actions.
If you are a duke and a governor of a city and a royal, but not a king, there is literally no way to remove you from this position.
This leads to a situation when a player gone rogue can really harm the realm in an ugly way and nothing can be done about that.

I do not understand why it is done this way and why it makes sense. There should be no 100% immune offices, especially this powerful.

Auto da fe, infiltrators, scrolls, etc. Be creative.

Title: Re: Complete mechanical immunity hurts the game
Post by: JeVondair on May 08, 2018, 11:34:31 AM

Quote from: Constantine on May 02, 2018, 04:18:45 PM

So apparently there are positions in the game that are absolutely immune to all and any players' actions.
If you are a duke and a governor of a city and a royal, but not a king, there is literally no way to remove you from this position.
This leads to a situation when a player gone rogue can really harm the realm in an ugly way and nothing can be done about that.

I do not understand why it is done this way and why it makes sense. There should be no 100% immune offices, especially this powerful.

It may not be ideal from a gaming perspective, but strikes me as historically accurate. Traditionally a King's greatest obstacles were the intransigence of his dukes

Title: Re: Complete mechanical immunity hurts the game
Post by: Chenier on May 14, 2018, 05:15:16 PM

The key element is: don't let untrustworthy people gain the royal status.

Rulership is huge. It's easier to forget this now that titles are a buck a dozen, but you really, really, really need to consider your rulers carefully.

Title: Re: Complete mechanical immunity hurts the game
Post by: JeVondair on May 15, 2018, 09:04:00 PM

In extreme cases, there IS precedence for having the Titan's resolve the situation of an abusive duke, should they determine that their intervention is necessary.

Title: Re: Complete mechanical immunity hurts the game
Post by: Eduardo Almighty on May 15, 2018, 09:41:03 PM

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In extreme cases, there IS precedence for having the Titan's resolve the situation of an abusive duke, should they determine that their intervention is necessary.

Oh... I remember...