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BattleMaster => Helpline => Topic started by: JeVondair on May 31, 2018, 04:29:53 PM

Title: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: JeVondair on May 31, 2018, 04:29:53 PM
It occurred to me that those of us who are interested in actively documenting our adventures and histories should have a place to come together, share knowledge, and assist one another in our various projects. I know that I, personally, am perpetually in need of help from wiki-wizards who are more knowledgeable than I.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: JeVondair on May 31, 2018, 04:31:49 PM
That being said, i need help formatting a table. I recently created a newspaper for SOS and I don't understand how to alter the table's syntax to better-display the information I want up there. if anyone can assist or direct me, I'd appreciate the help!


http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Obia%27Syela/Newspaper_-_The_Mute_Herald

Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Wimpie on May 31, 2018, 04:40:49 PM
I'd like to tell you that you can use the preview button whenever you're changing a page.

No need to push 45 changes through ;-) Just preview and push once.

That being said, for editing tables:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Vita` on May 31, 2018, 04:44:36 PM
I'd like to tell you that you can use the preview button whenever you're changing a page.

No need to push 45 changes through ;-) Just preview and push once.
I didn't look myself, but this times a thousand.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: JeVondair on May 31, 2018, 05:52:23 PM
Lol thanks, I know how bad I am.


Will review that link asap, I appreciate the assist!
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: JeVondair on May 31, 2018, 08:59:11 PM
I've made a script a while back to make it very easy to put battle reports on the wiki to save them for all times. A few things to mention1) It's in VBA, so you need to have microsoft word on your computer. If you don't, sorry. 2) I've described step by step how to use it, but if anything is unclear just hit me up here or on Discord:
https://discordapp.com/channels/386317706158276610/386317706695016462 (https://discordapp.com/channels/386317706158276610/386317706695016462)

The script to do it and step by step guide:
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Battle_Reports#Code_to_paste_in_module: (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Battle_Reports#Code_to_paste_in_module:)

*Updated version, the battle report now also autofills most of a military infobox to make it even cooler. ** Still plan to autofill the last remaining categories as well, but that requires some more extensive code. So still to be done
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Wimpie on June 01, 2018, 08:02:43 AM
I did not have time to write much else yesterday, but here's basically what I'm doing when editing wiki:

Either I find a page which is using this feature (tables, templates,..) and copy code from there
or I just go to google and do 'wiki editing [tables]' (insert your specific question there) and you'll definitely find your answer as well.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Gildre on September 04, 2018, 12:01:47 AM
I noticed that the Realm and Religion lists for the different continents doesn't appear to be updating correctly. Some sort of syntax problem perhaps? Anyone have any ideas?
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: feyeleanor on September 06, 2018, 07:19:14 PM
I noticed that the Realm and Religion lists for the different continents doesn't appear to be updating correctly. Some sort of syntax problem perhaps? Anyone have any ideas?

Which page? I'll take a look at the markup and see if I can spot what's wrong.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Gildre on September 14, 2018, 06:17:43 PM
Sorry for the late reply. I don't hit the forums as much as I used to.

Dwilight's Realms and Religions is outdated.

EC's Realms is outdated. Not sure about the Religions.

BT's Realms and Religions is outdated.

It looks like a common to all problem.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Wimpie on September 15, 2018, 10:53:36 AM
Active realms should have the Realm Box template (which you see on most Realm page) and this one automatically adds the category for that continent.

The Continent pages look at what realm pages have this Category and adds it to the list.

Now, if this last thing is not happening (the system should take care of this), then that is a bug.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: feyeleanor on September 17, 2018, 12:27:20 AM
I've made a few changes in the wiki to add page stubs for realms where they don't exist and to ensure pages missing from the Realms and Lost Realms lists have the appropriate template. I've also checked that erroneous realms are marked in the appropriate continent category and as either Realms or Lost Realms.

There are a few anomalies in the lists so I'll check again in a couple of days to see if this is down to caching.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: PolarRaven on September 17, 2018, 04:06:24 PM
I've made a few changes in the wiki to add page stubs for realms where they don't exist and to ensure pages missing from the Realms and Lost Realms lists have the appropriate template. I've also checked that erroneous realms are marked in the appropriate continent category and as either Realms or Lost Realms.

There are a few anomalies in the lists so I'll check again in a couple of days to see if this is down to caching.

Thank you so much.  I am wiki dumb and have rarely even edited a page let alone made one.
I had noticed that Caelint had no page a while back and even asked the players of the realm if anyone would be willing to set it up.  Sadly no one stepped up.  The page looks accurate.  with the base in place, I may even try to fill in a little more.  As I said, wiki dumb.   :(
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Vita` on September 17, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
I've made a few changes in the wiki to add page stubs for realms where they don't exist and to ensure pages missing from the Realms and Lost Realms lists have the appropriate template. I've also checked that erroneous realms are marked in the appropriate continent category and as either Realms or Lost Realms.

There are a few anomalies in the lists so I'll check again in a couple of days to see if this is down to caching.
Thank you for this. I've given you some Goodies as thanks. I'd note that dead realms shouldn't have RealmBoxes, only living realms; RealmBoxes also assign the categories of Realms and the continent they are on, which is why the realms remained in the living realms list.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: feyeleanor on September 18, 2018, 12:06:45 PM
Thanks for the goodies :)

I've added a category Old Templates which will for now link to every realm page using templates other than the standard Realm Box so that these can be updated later.

I'll also add some additional subcategories to Lost Realms to better organise by continent as I update pages erroneously showing in Realms and might implement a Template:Lost Realm at some point to add some consistency (if I have a sudden need to procrastinate).
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: feyeleanor on September 18, 2018, 01:12:11 PM
It's quite sobering to see how many Lost Realms there are. BM history can sure be a bloody affair with many a trampled dream along the way.

There are still a few false positives in the Realms list but they should all be listed in Old Templates for tidying up by anyone (including me) who has some spare time. I'll put some thought into what a Lost Realm template might look like as it would be nice to have something similar to the normal Realm Box.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Gildre on October 23, 2018, 06:32:10 AM
If anyone is interested, I stumbled across a Wiki page with like 300 billion or so color codes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors:_A%E2%80%93F
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Vita` on October 23, 2018, 06:34:53 AM
I prefer the much more limited: http://www.colors.commutercreative.com/grid/
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Chenier on October 23, 2018, 04:02:11 PM
Thank you for this. I've given you some Goodies as thanks. I'd note that dead realms shouldn't have RealmBoxes, only living realms; RealmBoxes also assign the categories of Realms and the continent they are on, which is why the realms remained in the living realms list.

Sounds like creating an identical template, "LostRealmBoxes", that adds the appropriate category would do the trick.

Actually, nevermind. RealmBox could be modified to have an input for status. Defaults to the current thing, but if "Lost" is put then it adjust and gives the appropriate category.

Just ideas.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Abstract on October 23, 2018, 06:26:09 PM
A reworking of the realmbox template could fix this issue. (Conditional based upon the external value return or through the property "part of..." that is used for regions.)
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: MTYL on October 23, 2018, 08:27:29 PM
Vita, brown on yours isn't brown but maroon/red.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: Vita` on October 23, 2018, 08:55:07 PM
Then take your disagreement up with W3C? I didn't choose the standards.
Title: Re: Wiki Formatting Tips, Tricks, Assistance & Peer Review
Post by: feyeleanor on October 29, 2018, 12:29:26 AM
Sounds like creating an identical template, "LostRealmBoxes", that adds the appropriate category would do the trick.

Actually, nevermind. RealmBox could be modified to have an input for status. Defaults to the current thing, but if "Lost" is put then it adjust and gives the appropriate category.

Just ideas.

My first instinct is to favour the separate template approach as burying logic in page templates can quickly get out of hand. I'll try and make some time this week to dig into all the templates a little so I know what's already there.