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BattleMaster => BM General Discussion => Topic started by: Vita` on September 16, 2018, 05:20:45 PM
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It is a tradition in BattleMaster for family fame (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Fame) points to remain unknown until successfully guessed by players. A few months of Goodies are given as a reward.
In 2004, a contest, LemonFame (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/LemonFame), was held to guess fame points. In 2006, Lemon Fame 2 (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lemon_Fame_2) was held. Inspired by the recent successful guess by Lefanis, I think it's long overdue to have Lemon Fame 3 within this thread.
There is also a Fame Box (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Fame_Box), which holds a highly-accurate player-built template system for family pages on the wiki.
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Checking the http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Fame (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Fame) page, I think it's missing at least two known points?
Successful rebellion and 50% swordfighting skill?
What about taking control of an army, it's not even in the hints? Are there hints for the new fame points added later? Honestly, this is all very very confusing. New fame, old fame, new hints, old hints...
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Well, if we are guessing, I would say that a "legendary" hero death would be the death of a hero who holds a council position or possibly a title of Duke/Duchess.
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Well, if we are guessing, I would say that a "legendary" hero death would be the death of a hero who holds a council position or possibly a title of Duke/Duchess.
I got it with a character years and years ago that was neither a lord or a council member. Guess again! :)
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I got it with a character years and years ago that was neither a lord or a council member. Guess again! :)
Sadly, I did not start to pay attention to fame until I realized that I was in the top twenty or so.
It is possible that I obtained it years ago as well.
It's hard to keep track of new ones, when I had no idea which ones I already had.
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Legendary Hero status has been my belief that it requires over 100 honour. Gilth received the points when he died. He had only ever been a knight, not even a region lord.
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Legendary Hero status has been my belief that it requires over 100 honour. Gilth received the points when he died. He had only ever been a knight, not even a region lord.
100 Honour seems a little low for legendary.
Did he die in a battle that his unit went on to win after his death?
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Not sure, but I had a hero on an old account who died, and the battle was won, and he only got me one Fame Point.
I don't think 100 seems low. The majority of characters in BM have lower than 100 honor.
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I just got a fame point this morning and no important thing happened except one of my character gained a point of honour from battle and the total family honour became 110.
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I just got a fame point this morning and no important thing happened except one of my character gained a point of honour from battle and the total family honour became 110.
Then something else must have happened, because there are no fame points for honour.
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Other than that none of the characters did anything except scouting regions and traveling. And my Judge character holding a harsh court.
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Is it possible you just noticed it but it happened earlier? I certainly don't check my fame on a daily basis. Anything significant happen in the past week(s)?
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Is it possible you just noticed it but it happened earlier? I certainly don't check my fame on a daily basis. Anything significant happen in the past week(s)?
Definitely was 8 fame at night, after morning turn it became 9 fame. 3 days before that, the banker sold food from my region to a city, so there could be a chance its the Trader fame but 1. I didn't sell the food 2. It was 3 days before I got the point 3. I am pretty sure the city wasn't starving.
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Nope, then it's definitely not the Trader fame.
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Is it just selling to starving region or also buying for starving region?
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I am pretty sure the key is selling for a loss to a starving region. I think.
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Is it just selling to starving region or also buying for starving region?
https://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,8389.0/msg,168660.html
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I got it with a character years and years ago that was neither a lord or a council member. Guess again! :)
OK, I will. ;D
Now that I know I have already received the fame points for a "Legendary Hero" I will offer another, more educated guess.
A "Legendary Hero" is one who fights alone (only his unit) against a superior foe and dies in the battle.
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Rising from the Dead? ::)
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OK, I will. ;D
Now that I know I have already received the fame points for a "Legendary Hero" I will offer another, more educated guess.
A "Legendary Hero" is one who fights alone (only his unit) against a superior foe and dies in the battle.
Nope, try again.
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No, Legendary Hero is a status change. There would be a lot more junior heroes buried as legends if it just required a pitched battle.
I think there is some sort of time in factor. Perhaps,
- A certain number of battles fought while a hero?
- A certain amount of hon/pres gained while a hero?
- Maybe even just simply being a hero for a set amount of time?
- Could be winning a certain number of battles as a hero? Or fighting in a certain amount of battles where your side has less CS?
I don't think I have ever clicked on a name from the Legendary Hero burial message and seen a character with less than 100 honor. That makes me think it is something that gets accumulated.
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- A certain amount of hon/pres gained while a hero?
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I don't think I have ever clicked on a name from the Legendary Hero burial message and seen a character with less than 100 honor. That makes me think it is something that gets accumulated.
You are looking in the right direction...
PS: Sorry to those I haven't responded to directly yet - I will.
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I don't think I have ever clicked on a name from the Legendary Hero burial message and seen a character with less than 100 honor. That makes me think it is something that gets accumulated.
I would think that legendary part of the hero has more to do with prestige than honor- nothing to do with the time spent as hero, or accumulation or battles. Just the pure H/P values. My own legendary hero had 111 honor and 27 prestige at death. So I am going to say that to be a legendary hero you need to have 25 prestige. Perhaps 100 honor as well.
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But by that logic, couldn't a char with 100/25 switch to Hero, die the next day, and be buried as a Legend? That doesn't seem very Legendary.
That is why I think there is a number that must be accumulated while they are actually a Hero.
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But by that logic, couldn't a char with 100/25 switch to Hero, die the next day, and be buried as a Legend? That doesn't seem very Legendary.
That is why I think there is a number that must be accumulated while they are actually a Hero.
I have seen characters change class to hero, then die within no more than a few days, and be hailed as a legend. It's long enough ago that I don't recall the specifics, but I remember it being talked about at the time specifically in the context of the Legendary Hero fame.
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Indeed, Lefanis is more oriented in the right direction.
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That is kind of lame. A hero should have to work as a hero to become legendary!
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That is kind of lame. A hero should have to work as a hero to become legendary!
But does the work need to be while they're a hero? Or can they become legendary for things they did before they put aside their humility and declared themselves to be one?
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Bah! No risk, no reward IMO!
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I've suspected what Anaris is saying, based on what I've seen of heroes in the past. Characters become legendary, and if they die as a hero, well they were already legendary, and indisputably a hero (because, dead) well then they're a legendary hero.
Legendary status I believe has to do with a couple factors. Prestige is definite. Titles, factor maybe some, but I've seen folks spend their careers as Knights and become legendary. Possibly something to do with the number of people they've met too. Hard to be a legend if no one knows your name.
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Titles, factor maybe some, but I've seen folks spend their careers as Knights and become legendary. Possibly something to do with the number of people they've met too. Hard to be a legend if no one knows your name.
Man, some of you really like to overcomplicate this fame point...
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I am quite sure it isn't a title thing. Very confident it is an hon/pres thing. The only question is how much.
I have research to do.
EDIT: Ugh. Family pages just say if the character was killed as a hero. Makes no mention of whether they were legendary or not. I don't know why I thought it would, this mystery would have been solved long ago if that was the case...
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Well, Anaris and I have discussed amongst ourselves, and we're going to jointly award Lefanis and Gildre with goodies for coming the closest to guessing the Legendary Hero famepoint. We don't think anyone will be likely to improve upon the specificity of the guesses; if anyone can get more accurate, we will reward that, but I think thats quite unlikely.
To clarify, both prestige and honour can contribute to being considered Legendary Hero. You don't have to gain that h/p while you are hero class. Lefanis's suggestion given, 25 prestige and 100 honour, does qualify as legendary, but it does not have to be those specific amounts of h/p to qualify.
Lefanis and Gildre have both received 2 months of Goodies.
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To clarify, both prestige and honour can contribute to being considered Legendary Hero. You don't have to gain that h/p while you are hero class. Lefanis's suggestion given, 25 prestige and 100 honour, does qualify as legendary, but it does not have to be those specific amounts of h/p to qualify.
To clarify slightly further, it's not a set amount of honour and prestige, but a moderately complex formula.
So research away! ;D
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Thanks! You guys rock!
I have been scouring the Wiki, finding pages with Legendary Heros in the fame boxes, and recording their hon/pres. I have found a few interesting things:
- There is a fair amount of people who do not understand how Fame Points work.
- There are SO MANY family pages whose accounts have been deleted. Over and over I found a family with a Legendary fame panel, only to find their family no longer exists and I couldn't verify the hon/pres.
- I stumbled onto a Wiki page called Careful Research. Either it was made by Mercer or Twinblade, but both of those families seem to be gone. Anyways, he had linked the family history from one of my characters from my very first account which got deleted. I never knew the ID code so I couldn't see it, so finding that was an awesome treat and a great blast from the past!! So if either of those guys have new accounts and see this, thanks a ton!!!
Since Anaris and Vita have given us the nod, I am going to cease my search. I have to admit, I am pretty discouraged by the lack of solid evidence to go off of anyways. However, my findings definitely lined up pretty well with Lefanis. So far I have found 7 nobles who the player is completely convinced they got the Fame Points for Legendary. The lowest prestige I found was 26, and the lowest honour was 103.
I have to admit, I am pretty curious about the "moderately complex formula", but to find that out for sure I assume I would need to spend a few years learning how to code and then offer up my services as a developer and work my way up to being granted access to see those features, so I think I will settle for the 25/100 approximation!
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1. It's not one and the other. Likely it's one or the other. Most likely it utilizes "Reputation" fame (which is the combination of stats like prestige, honour etc.) or some kind of score that is calculated using arbitrary multiplier, e.g. prestige = 5, honour = 1. If total>legendary threshold you're a legendary hero, if not - sorry gregory.
2. It's not absolute, it's dynamic. It must be, since it utilizes either fame mechanics (from the "your fame" tab) or some mechanics that work in a similar fashion. So I believe the legendary threshold is either higher/lower depending on the most legendary person on the continent or it's higher/lower depending on the avarge legendary factor (fame/reputation/honour+prestige)
BOOM!
Sorry, I really didn't mean to blow minds.
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Thanks! You guys rock!
I have been scouring the Wiki, finding pages with Legendary Heros in the fame boxes, and recording their hon/pres. I have found a few interesting things:
- There is a fair amount of people who do not understand how Fame Points work.
- There are SO MANY family pages whose accounts have been deleted. Over and over I found a family with a Legendary fame panel, only to find their family no longer exists and I couldn't verify the hon/pres.
- I stumbled onto a Wiki page called Careful Research. Either it was made by Mercer or Twinblade, but both of those families seem to be gone. Anyways, he had linked the family history from one of my characters from my very first account which got deleted. I never knew the ID code so I couldn't see it, so finding that was an awesome treat and a great blast from the past!! So if either of those guys have new accounts and see this, thanks a ton!!!
Since Anaris and Vita have given us the nod, I am going to cease my search. I have to admit, I am pretty discouraged by the lack of solid evidence to go off of anyways. However, my findings definitely lined up pretty well with Lefanis. So far I have found 7 nobles who the player is completely convinced they got the Fame Points for Legendary. The lowest prestige I found was 26, and the lowest honour was 103.
I have to admit, I am pretty curious about the "moderately complex formula", but to find that out for sure I assume I would need to spend a few years learning how to code and then offer up my services as a developer and work my way up to being granted access to see those features, so I think I will settle for the 25/100 approximation!
Legendary is when fame => 100, where fame = prestige + 0.25 x honor
Random numbers, just an idea of what it could possibly look like?
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You wrote that so confidently that I thought it was the actual formula haha!
I get what you are putting down though.
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Lefanis and Gildre have both received 2 months of Goodies.
Nice, just seeing this :D Will get to work guessing the others soon enough!
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Hmmm... This is a wildly random guess, but do you get a point when you get kicked out of lordship due to revolt? Those unknown fame points are nagging at me...
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Is there a point to be gained by "buying/forging a claim" to obtain a lordless region from another realm?
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I have been trying to figure out the Prophet fame. Anyone who has it, do you remember what state your religion was in?
I read that getting a region to 50% followers was a factor, but that didn't work. Then I tried getting 50% of a regions max population, but no point then either. Currently have two temples and four nobles involved in the religion.
Ideas?
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Guilds get a "significant event" message when they make it to 10 members. Perhaps 10 noble followers is the threshold for Prophet fame?
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Between the two of you, you're getting warm.
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Lefanis, let's quit our jobs and become Fame Detectives. We are rockin' it!
Also, once I have convinced another five people to join, I will update.
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Haha this is lovely. Keep at it!
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Lefanis, let's quit our jobs and become Fame Detectives. We are rockin' it!
Hehehe 8)
Perhaps a combination of the two factors then? "10th member has joined the order" and something else. I am tempted to say 10,000 followers? Nice round number, pretty attainable with some effort, although only readily available to a priest- I don't have access to a religion spread off the bat... Perhaps the second factor might be being a major faith in more than 5 regions?
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Hehehe 8)
Perhaps a combination of the two factors then? "10th member has joined the order" and something else. I am tempted to say 10,000 followers? Nice round number, pretty attainable with some effort, although only readily available to a priest- I don't have access to a religion spread off the bat... Perhaps the second factor might be being a major faith in more than 5 regions?
Let try it.
Why not being major faith in at least 5 realms or above?
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That last fame point nobody has earned bugs me. And I have a guess. Is it for wounding your mentor in battle?
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...No.
That would be really weird.
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I thought it was an interesting idea. The whole apprentice becomes the master trope, no?
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...No.
That would be really weird.
Student becoming the master and all. Anyway, I will discover what it is and claim the point.
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Student becoming the master and all. Anyway, I will discover what it is and claim the point.
I highly doubt this.
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I highly doubt this.
Care to share your thoughts why?
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That last fame point nobody has earned bugs me. And I have a guess. Is it for wounding your mentor in battle?
The last fame point is obviously called the "BattleMaster" fame point. Last unit standing in a battle over 10k cs on each side? ;D
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In regards to the Prophet Fame, I can confirm that 10 nobles and 50% of a region is not what gets you the fame.
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A tournament will be considered successful when the holder correctly plans for the amount of nobles that will attend? (+or- a few)
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Sponsoring a successful army requires more than 10 people in the army?
Don't know how many more, but the only army I have ever founded and maintained has always been less than 15 nobles.
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There is definitely a Fame Point for 1500 gold bounty. Is this already common knowledge?
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There is definitely a Fame Point for 1500 gold bounty. Is this already common knowledge?
Called Wanted on Lemon Box I think?
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Haha yeah I made the template.
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Fame point for two Royals in the family?
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That would give me an explanation for one of my unknown. Seems kind of odd though. Happen to you recently?
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Fame point for two Royals in the family?
Nope.
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hmmm, Maybe I had not received ruler day 1 fame for the previous rulership because the realm was too small... Investigation continues :)
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Quote from: Gildre on September 05, 2019, 04:58:09 AM
There is definitely a Fame Point for 1500 gold bounty. Is this already common knowledge?
Called Wanted on Lemon Box I think?
This is not in the Fame box. I am not so sure it is a valid fame point either.
It certainly does not count when you put the bounty on yourself. ;)
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There are other people who reported a Fame Point when they had a 1500 gold bounty. I tested it by adding 500 gold to my own bounty every turn for three turns. Exactly when I hit 1500 a new Fame point popped up.
I feel pretty confident that it is. Still waiting on official "yay or nay" from an Admin though.
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My religion is currently 10 nobles, I have a region at over 50%, and three temples. No Fame Points yet. I am keeping watch.
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What is a a "successful army"?
I founded an army in D'Hara a while ago and have been waiting for the army to be "successful" enough to grant me the fame point.
The army has done me proud, but I have yet to gain the fame point.
The army has won many battles and had few losses.
It has had veriing amounts of CS over time, but has surely been over 10K CS more than once.
The number of knights in the army has remained around 10 nobles. I doubt the number of knights will give the point as it is too easy to found an army and fill it with all of the knights of a realm. (Having 30 nobles in an army for a day or two would not necessarily make it "successful".)
Still no fame point.
Though I have not been keeping track of the amount of funding I have provided to the army's warchest, I begin to suspect that a successful army may be determined by the total funds that have been funneled through its warchest. No evidence yet, but I keep funding and waiting. :)
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Does having negative honour or prestige net you a Fame Point? I seem to recall a Judge that went into the negatives.
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Does having negative honour or prestige net you a Fame Point?
Nope, just a Bug Point.
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I found a page on the Wiki where Mercer says he got a Fame Point when he hit 800 Family Honour. I have over 800 Family Honour and it would certainly explain one of my mystery points. Any validity?
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Fame Guesses:
* Vice-Marshal commands a "Huge Battle Fought" that results in a victory.
* Discovery of a 3rd unique item spread across the family.
(Seifer/Noble/White Shield) (Siren Song/Advy/Zedd's Ring) (Vivi/Advy/Bizzare Helmet of Spring)
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1k in bounties collected by a single character.
1k in bounties collected across your family.
1.5k in bounties placed on a single character.
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Outcast Fame Point: Being banned from 10 unique realms.
Courtier Fame Point: Restoring over 100% total Moral and 100% total loyalty over the course of a career.
Hero Fame Point: Telling your story to raise region stats.
Hero Fame Point: Recruiting additional soldiers by being a hero.
Reaver Fame Point: Looting 1k gold as a noble.
Sapper Fame Point: Dealing an accumulated 100% of damage to fortifications with a single noble.
Rebel Fame Point: Remaining in the underground in a realm undetected for a year.
Spellcasting Fame Point: Cast 5 different spells with a single noble.
Portal Stone Fame Point: Gain a fame point for successfully collecting and activating 8 portal stones (Even if killed)
Ascension Fame Point: Start as an adventurer, rise to nobility and be elected ruler of a large (5+ region) realm.
Infiltrator Fame Point: Successfully assassinate a royal.
Fine Fame Point: Pay over 1k in fines.
Ambassador Fame Point: Successfully enact 3 different treaties.
World Traveler Fame Point: Have one noble visit 4 unique continents.
War Fame Point: Have one noble cumulatively declare war on 3 unique realms.
Food Thief: Steal over 1k bushels of food.
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Well, in an offhand comment on voice chat, *moments* after I told him he would never guess it before I changed it, Tideweaver guessed, "oh, probably 50% of ten regions" for what triggers the religion founder fame. Which is accurate. Congratulations. Goodies have been given.
And, as I haven't given this thread the proper attention it deserves, I'm going to catch up on the backlog of posts. Everything I do not reply to can be counted as a 'no' to that guess.
1. It's not one and the other. Likely it's one or the other. Most likely it utilizes "Reputation" fame (which is the combination of stats like prestige, honour etc.) or some kind of score that is calculated using arbitrary multiplier, e.g. prestige = 5, honour = 1. If total>legendary threshold you're a legendary hero, if not - sorry gregory.
This is exactly accurate. Chenier got close in a succeeding guess a few posts after the quote, but had prestige and honour inversed and the total threshold too low. Alas, MTYL is not playing anymore, but if he returns, I will fulfill a raincheck on his goodies for the successful guess.
2. It's not absolute, it's dynamic. It must be, since it utilizes either fame mechanics (from the "your fame" tab) or some mechanics that work in a similar fashion. So I believe the legendary threshold is either higher/lower depending on the most legendary person on the continent or it's higher/lower depending on the avarge legendary factor (fame/reputation/honour+prestige)
I like this idea of legendary hero fame being relative to the continent's average legendary score and am tempted to change it (some day).
A tournament will be considered successful when the holder correctly plans for the amount of nobles that will attend? (+or- a few)
Close, but no cigar.
There is definitely a Fame Point for 1500 gold bounty. Is this already common knowledge?
There is definitely not. But you are a hair away from a correct guess.
There are other people who reported a Fame Point when they had a 1500 gold bounty. I tested it by adding 500 gold to my own bounty every turn for three turns. Exactly when I hit 1500 a new Fame point popped up.
I feel pretty confident that it is. Still waiting on official "yay or nay" from an Admin though.
Nay, but you grazed 'yay' with that shot.
Now, if someone could update the Fame (https://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Fame) and Fame Box (https://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Fame_Box) wiki pages with this updated information, that would be highly appreciated.
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Protest Fame Point: Be thrown out of 3 unique offices via protests.
Unique Item Repair: Repair a Unique item 5 times.
Unique Item Repair: Repair 5 different Unique Items.
Sage Fame: Successfully fulfill the request of a sage 5 times (Repair/upgrade/try to make unique item)
Item Improvement Fame: Successfully improve a unique item.
Peasant Killer: Successfully Kill an accumulated 1k Peasants on one noble (whether angry milita or via looting)
Pauper Fame: Successfully ask for gold from your family 10 times.
Well Rounded: Have 3 unique skills (example Swordfighting/Jousting/Oratory) above 50% skill level.
Unit Command Fame: Win a battle commanding all available unit types (Infantry/Archers/MI/Cav/SF)
Region Lord Fame: Sucessfully build an accumulated 3 recruitment centers.
Region Lord Fame: Successfully build a wall.
Region Lord Fame: Successfully build an accumulated 5 unique infrastructures.
Court Fame: Successfully raise an accumulated 100% Morale Via holding Court
Court Fame: Successfully raise an accumulated 100% Loyalty via holding Court
Wealth Fame: Successfully transfer an accumulated 1000 gold on a single noble.
Civil Work Fame: Successfuly raise an accumulated 100% production via Civil Work
Scout Fame: Successfully scout 100 times.
Healer Fame: Successfully heal over 100 soldiers by healers in your employ
Deciet Fame: Modify a unit's combat strength by a threshold of 500.
Wall Repair Fame: Successfully repair an accumulated 100% of damage to fortifications.
Rogue Slayer Fame: Successfully kill over 100 monsters
Undead Slayer Fame: Successfully kill over 1000 undead.
Rogue Bounty Fame: Post over 100 gold worth of bounties for undead and monsters.
Food Fame: Buy or sell an accumulated 1k bushels of food on a single noble.
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1200 gold bounty.
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Well Rounded: Have 3 unique skills (example Swordfighting/Jousting/Oratory) above 50% skill level.
DING DING DING! More Goodies for Tideweaver.
Everything else, no. Quit thinking in terms of gaming achievement systems.
More to be added to the wiki.
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There is definitely not. But you are a hair away from a correct guess.
Nay, but you grazed 'yay' with that shot.
Successfully claiming a bounty above a gold threshold? 1000, 1500?
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Successfully claiming a bounty above a gold threshold? 1000, 1500?
You're close. Not sure if closer or further than Gildre. Maybe kitty-corner to Gildre's guess.
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Hello Vita! While you're looking at the fame thread. Here are just a few more guesses :D
Bounty Fame Point: 1250 Gold Bounty on noble.
Bounty Fame Point: Collecting a single 1250 gold bounty.
Bounty Fame Point: Collect an accumulated 1k gold in bounties with a single noble.
Outcast Fame Point: Banned from 3 different realms on the same continent.
Marshal Fame Point: Take command of an army for 5 separate battles.
Marshal Fame Point: Take command of an army that successfully defends against a superior attacking force.
Marshal Fame Point: Take command of an army that Successfully attacks a superior defending force and wins.
Outcast Fame Point: Successfully escape prison 5 times (without bribing).
Outcast Fame Point: Successfully escape prison from 3 different realms (without bribing).
Outcast Fame Point: Successfully steal an accumulated 500 gold by looting or infiltration as a noble with no realm (rouge)
Marshal Fame Point: The army the marshal takes command of successfully kills an enemy noble.
Army Sponsorship Fame Point: An army you sponsor gains over 10,000 combat strength.
Army Sponsorship Fame Point: An army you sponsor has over 1000 soldiers.
Army Sponsorship Fame Point: An army you sponsored wins 5 battles.
Successful Tournament Fame: 30 nobles attending a tournament.
Successful Tournament Fame: A noble from every realm on the continent attends the tournament.
Successful Tournament Fame: 10 different nobles buy drinks for all those present at the tournament.
Successful Tournament Fame: 10 different nobles show off at a tournament.
Rebellion Fame Point: Lead a successful rebellion in realm with 5 or more regions.
Exile Fame Point: Get Exiled by a ruler and outlast their honor/prestige losses until they are forced to vacate.
Exile Fame Point: Get exiled by a ruler and remain in the realm until they are removed from the ruler position.
Family Wealth: Family Wealth Exceeds 10k.
Family Wealth: Family Wealth Exceeds 15k.
Trade Fame Point: Trader makes a successful trade in 3 unique realms.
Trade Fame Point: Trader makes a successful trade in 3 unique cities.
Trade Fame Point: Trader makes a successful trade in all unique types (ex: City, Townsland, Rural etc)
Election Fame Point: Lose 3 different elections on a single noble.
Cavalier Fame Point: A Cavalier leads cavalry into battle 10 times.
Unique Item Fame: Discovering a Unique Item.
Adventurer Fame: Successfully kill an Alpha Monster or Undead Champion.
Adventurer Fame: Collect an accumulated 10 gold worth of bounties from hunter monsters and undead.
Outcast Fame Point: Be captured and sent to prison in 3 different realms.
Unique Item Fame Point: Wield an unique item in battle.
Police Fame Point: Conduct 50 hours of Police Work
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I'm guessing the bounty fame is for a bounty in excess of 1000 gold, making the minimum threshold... 1050 gold!
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It might have nothing to do with the actual amount. Maybe it is for having three bounties placed against one character?
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Regarding Skills,
Is there one point for having a single exceptional skill, and then the "Well Rounded" point for having three skills above 50%?
I am quite positive I got a point when my Sword Fighting broke ~50%, but no other skills were up there. I don't remember seeing any points for other skills getting up there, and I have definitely had Sword Fighting, Infil, and Oratory all over 50%.
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I'm guessing the bounty fame is for a bounty in excess of 1000 gold, making the minimum threshold... 1050 gold!
This is correct! Congratulations!
then the "Well Rounded" point for having three skills above 50%?
This is also correct!
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Sorry, allow me to clarify. I was asking if there is a point for a single exceptional skill, and a separate point for the triple skill? Or is it just one point for the triple skill?
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Sorry, allow me to clarify. I was asking if there is a point for a single exceptional skill, and a separate point for the triple skill? Or is it just one point for the triple skill?
Ah, whoops; missed that Tideweaver had already gotten that one confirmed.
What you have posited is partially true, but incomplete.
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Hm.
I have long thought it was only the "combat" skills that would get you individual Fame Points, so my personal speculation is:
1 point for Exceptional SF
1 point for Exceptional Jousting
1 point for Exceptional Infil
1 point for three (any) Exceptional Skills
Exceptional being 50%
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Hm.
I have long thought it was only the "combat" skills that would get you individual Fame Points,
Nope.
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Is the total still 51? I have found nothing on the Wiki or Forum to say otherwise.
If that is correct, 44 are known (not including the skills as they are still unclear)
The "Well Rounded" has been confirmed, so I can increase that to 45 known. That leaves 6.
There are 7 "noble" skills, so those last 6 can't be one for each.
Swordfighting
Jousting
Leadership
Trading
Bureaucracy
Oratory
Infiltration
Unless Trading doesn't get you one, since it doesn't do much?
I am just shooting in the dark now. Perhaps this will cause someone else to think of something.
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Is the total still 51? I have found nothing on the Wiki or Forum to say otherwise.
Technically, it's 52, but one is not implemented.
There are 7 "noble" skills, so those last 6 can't be one for each.
Swordfighting
Jousting
Leadership
Trading
Bureaucracy
Oratory
Infiltration
Unless Trading doesn't get you one, since it doesn't do much?
Nope. There are not unique fame points associated with any individual skill.
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Interesting. Thank you for the clarifications.
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Piggybacking off of Stabbity's guess:
Collecting a single bounty of 1050 or greater.
Collecting an accumulation of bounties of 1050 gold or greater.
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Is there a FP for the first time you are banished?
Banished from a realm other than your own?
I could swear there was a FP I got back in the day at the same time as a character (I think an Advie) got banished, and I just chalked it up to the Outcast FP. Looking on the Wiki, I see that is not confirmed.
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is there a fame point for winning the war island?
a fame point for losing the war island?
a fame point for being present for the end of the war island?
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Win a battle while commanding an army (as marshal or vice marshal)
Win a battle utilizing a command staff setting (as marshal or vice marshal who took command of the army)
Win or lose a battle where you take command of an army
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Outcast fame point is being banned from 50% or greater than the realms currently on the continent (example: 8 realms, banned from 4)
Outcast fame point is being banned from GREATER than 50% of the realms currently on the continent (example: 8 realms, banned from 5)
Redemption Fame Point: Have a noble have their ban lifted from a realm.
Outcast fame point: Having 5 active bans from five different active/alive realms.
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Heroic Death Fame Point:
Hero dies in battle with a "Fame Threshold" of 200 or greater. "Fame Threshold" = x, Prestige = p, Honor = h.
"Fame Threshold" is determined by x = 5(p) + h
So for this guess specifically, its a dynamic amount of p/h based on getting "Fame Threshold" to 150 or greater. So 40 Prestige/0 Honor, 35 Prestige/25 Honor, 30 Prestige/50 Honor, 25 Presteige/75 honor.
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Heroic Death Fame Point:
Hero dies in battle with a "Fame Threshold" of 200 or greater. "Fame Threshold" = x, Prestige = p, Honor = h.
"Fame Threshold" is determined by x = 5(p) + h
This is correct.
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Hello all,
It has been a while but I am attempting to attribute my fame to the fame box on the Greybrook wiki.
I know that I earnt the Wanted fame but only by checking this page did I realise that was what I earnt it for.
Therefore, there are fames such as the universal skill fame (50% in three skills) that need something for the fame box, anyone whom is good at wiki templates should have a go at this!
Otherwise, I think people would appreciate an update to the wiki page for correctly guessed fame?
Cheers all.
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Outcast fame guess:
Become a rogue as a result of banishment.