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Title: Game of Thrones
Post by: Daycryn on July 30, 2011, 09:42:40 AM
Anyone else read the book(s) and/or watched the HBO show?

I read the books and was immediately enthralled by them. Game of Thrones is basically Battlemaster in epic novel series form. (Or Battlemaster is basically the Game of Thrones in game form?) It inspired me to write my own novel, get back to playing BM, and reminded me just how much win this game is.

I got the newest book the other week and finished it in a feverish three days of being glued to the page. Not nearly as interesting by itself as the others, but still damn good. Damn good.

Anyone who plays battlemaster ought to enjoy these books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zakilevo on July 30, 2011, 10:05:46 AM
Such a ruthless show. They don't hesitate to cut off heads of good characters...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: D`Este on July 30, 2011, 11:18:02 AM
Such a ruthless show. They don't hesitate to cut off heads of good characters...

Well, it's based on a book, would be a pretty silly to change the story just because it's a show.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fodder on July 30, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
i would think cutting heads off is rather tame for them books (haven't seen the tv stuff)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: squishymaster on July 30, 2011, 08:33:14 PM
I've read the first three books but got tired of waiting sooo long between books that I occupied myself with other crap and haven't read book 4 or 5.  Now that I'm paying attention again I get to read two books back to back :)  Which is good because if I remember correctly he meant to write that as one book but cut it into two because it got so big so yea for me.  I watched the first like 5 episodes and it is pretty sweet so far and some of the actor choices were pretty awesome like the dwarf and joffrey, but some were were crap choices like the guy playing jon snow was a terrible god awful choice.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: D`Este on July 30, 2011, 08:49:13 PM
Are books 4 and 5 out then?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zakilevo on July 30, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
I think it is out up to the fourth volume.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Solari on July 30, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
I think it is out up to the fourth volume.

Book five is out.  Four came out ages ago. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Daycryn on July 31, 2011, 12:10:15 AM
I've read the first three books but got tired of waiting sooo long between books that I occupied myself with other crap and haven't read book 4 or 5.  Now that I'm paying attention again I get to read two books back to back :)  Which is good because if I remember correctly he meant to write that as one book but cut it into two because it got so big so yea for me.  I watched the first like 5 episodes and it is pretty sweet so far and some of the actor choices were pretty awesome like the dwarf and joffrey, but some were were crap choices like the guy playing jon snow was a terrible god awful choice.

I dunno, I thought it was perfect casting. Jon Snow is appropriately EMO and EMO RAGES when he should. He's a generally disagreeable person, really. 'Boo hoo, I'm a bastard. Oh wah, I joined the Night's Watch and it's not as fun as I stupidly thought. Boo hoo, Ygritte. Boo hoo, no one likes me. Wah.' Seriously, by book 3 I was just tired of reading his chapters, it felt like reading Jon Snow's Blog. :p
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tom on July 31, 2011, 05:12:43 PM
Such a ruthless show. They don't hesitate to cut off heads of good characters...

That was the part that I liked most (saw the show). There's an author who's not afraid of letting horrible things happen to his main characters. And real/permanent bad things, not as in "oh, in the end, it'll all turn out ok". For a while you think that (with the boy in the beginning, who does indeed wake up again). But when they cut off the head... that's when it sinks in. That this guy is really killing off his protagonists. I like that!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zakilevo on July 31, 2011, 11:05:22 PM
I wonder.. in the end, will there be any survivor? I mean if he keeps this pace, he will end up cutting everyone's head off :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fleugs on August 01, 2011, 02:19:50 AM
I loved the dragons & sexy lady at the season's ending. For the rest Tom's summary of what the author does with his main characters pretty much sums up what I think about it, too. No happy ending (so far!).

Also, haven't read the books. Shame on me I guess.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ender on August 01, 2011, 07:47:58 PM
I'd always heard of the books but never got around to reading them. Then I kept hearing that this pilot for some series called Game of Thrones was awesome, so I decided to watch.

I love love love the series. I really need to buy the books (I've read some of Martin's other stuff and really enjoyed it) but my backlog of books is getting silly and his books are far down on this list.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Revan on August 02, 2011, 04:46:47 AM
I'm a Malazan Book of the Fallen man myself. I'd heard of A Game of Thrones but the consensus seemed to be if you liked Malazan, you probably wouldn't like the Thrones series so much and vice versa. But after all the tv show publicity, I finally decided to give it a go. Only 70-odd pages in like, but I'm really enjoying it. Look forward to seeing how it unfolds. Anyway, I'd best stop checking this thread before someone ruins my life >.<
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fodder on August 02, 2011, 12:01:13 PM
don't get why if you like one book series you can't like the other.

i've read parts of both... then again, i am a bit of a junkie for reading stuff, just don't ask me to remember them.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DoctorHarte on August 09, 2011, 07:18:02 AM
I'm reading Book 5 right now and it's intense! There are more characters, plots, great imagination and detail. Absolutely love it, though he should have made it officially 1,000 pages  :P

Also, haven't read the books. Shame on me I guess.
>:(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Shizzle on August 09, 2011, 08:25:51 AM
I started watching the series yesterday. Four episodes in one go!
The books will have to wait until after the exams.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Nosferatus on August 10, 2011, 01:23:12 PM
Game of thrones is really a great serie with alot of parallels to BM.
A great script and some great actors(i am personally quite fond of the Lanister dwarf)
Aside from the overall parallels (like the plots, the drama, the wars, the daimons and undead) there are also some really funny exact parallels i noticed with my own characters.

I find it so funny to see the fat king character (that dies from the boar hunt) laughs and looks exactly like my character Abbot.
There is also a courtesan named Shae in the serie who looks and is exactly how i imagined Shae in the first place.(yeah i wanted to play a noble whore)
If Shae wouldn't have been so spoiled by the ibladeshian lords without having to do much for it(200/300+ shares :P) in her stay there she'd probably still be a courtesan and just trick every man into her little plots. to a certain extend she still does.. :P
Even her accent fits, although hers is more russian (as well as her typical facial features)my family presents one with balkan like ethnicity, there all black of hair with eastern names mostly inspired on Vlad Tepes.

The Shae of GoT will probably get more interesting in season 2.
I obviously really like her.

The plot twists are great and ruthless, which rarley happens in big hollywood movies or series. your favorite character just simply dies out of the blue.
the middle ages where exactly like that, life was short and intense.
I think Tom said this before, it's exactly why it's so darn good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Nosferatus on August 11, 2011, 11:01:47 AM

Even her accent fits, although hers is more russian (as well as her typical facial features)

Shae is played by Sibel Kekilli, from turkish decent.
Utter FAIL!

Shes from gegen die wand, why didn't i reconize her earlier... :P
The crazy bitch from the equally crazy movie.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Solari on August 11, 2011, 03:16:53 PM
Shae is played by Sibel Kekilli, from turkish decent.
Utter FAIL!

Shes from gegen die wand, why didn't i reconize her earlier... :P
The crazy bitch from the equally crazy movie.

The actress herself is also a pot star.  For people who, uh, are interested in such things.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DoctorHarte on August 12, 2011, 04:37:19 AM
The actress herself is also a pot star.  For people who, uh, are interested in such things.

I may have to re-watch some of that series, now  :P
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Nosferatus on August 12, 2011, 03:26:27 PM
The actress herself is also a pot star.  For people who, uh, are interested in such things.

she is? let me just check that... :P
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Shizzle on August 12, 2011, 05:17:38 PM
she is? let me just check that... :P

not bad :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Daycryn on August 13, 2011, 02:00:50 AM
I don't like Shae. In the books she is a commoner, a Kingslander, a camp follower and whore who dreams of becoming a noble lady and is giggly and fun. In the show, she has some "foreign" accent, is exotic and witty, and less fun to chat with than Ned.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Nosferatus on August 14, 2011, 05:36:04 PM
not bad :D

indeed. i like her more in regular movies i must say.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fodder on August 14, 2011, 07:43:08 PM
..,wtf is a pot star
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Shizzle on August 14, 2011, 08:26:18 PM
..,wtf is a pot star

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pot+star
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Solari on August 15, 2011, 02:30:36 AM
..,wtf is a pot star

XD

That should have read "porn star".
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DoctorHarte on August 20, 2011, 12:21:55 AM
XD

That should have read "porn star".

either way, I'm interester  :P
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: James on September 04, 2011, 04:04:50 PM
I'd watched the show and thoroughly enjoyed it, the week after it finished I met someone in Stockholm who was carrying around the first book with him. Had a bit of a chat and he went on about how great the rest of the books were so I thought I'd give them a go.

Got all 5 on my kindle, and did the first 4 (inc. both parts of book 3) in 6 weeks (which, considering how little free time I have now was quite something). About 70% through the last book now, and will be very impatient for the next one to come out. There are comments that he'd already written a big chunk of the next book by the middle of last year, so why are there such huge gaps between releases???

Very much enjoy the books though, not sure how well they'll be able to convey all the politics that goes on when the TV show continues (if they go to the ends of the books) but will look forward to seeing how they cope.

I was in a bit of a "what the hell just happened" daze for a while after getting through the Red Wedding bit...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Silverhawk on September 04, 2011, 04:11:17 PM
There are comments that he'd already written a big chunk of the next book by the middle of last year, so why are there such huge gaps between releases???

I think it is because he has no idea how the story goes. Most writers know where the story goes and write towards that point. He just writes and hopes for the best. I heared he has rewriten some books twice as he was not happy with the story.

I would suggest you also start praying that he finishes the series before he dies....As that is still be biggest fear of most fans. With the time he uses to write in combination with his age, well it would not be unlikly he dies before finishing it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: James on September 04, 2011, 04:14:24 PM
I would suggest you also start praying that he finishes the series before he dies....As that is still be biggest fear of most fans. With the time he uses to write in combination with his age, well it would not be unlikly he dies before finishing it.

Sheesh, had enough of that concern when I was waiting for the Dark Tower series to be finished by Stephen King... Who is still going years after he finished it though.

Hopefully he's got a few bits done (sounds like he knows the plans for some of the characters, just not all of them) so, if the worst did happen, someone else might be able to pull it al together and finish it off.

I've got a few endings I'd be happy with :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fodder on September 04, 2011, 08:08:30 PM
isn't the delay down to him doing all those other stuff... like the tv series, all the other books, etc?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bael on September 04, 2011, 08:23:29 PM
That was the part that I liked most (saw the show). There's an author who's not afraid of letting horrible things happen to his main characters. And real/permanent bad things, not as in "oh, in the end, it'll all turn out ok". For a while you think that (with the boy in the beginning, who does indeed wake up again). But when they cut off the head... that's when it sinks in. That this guy is really killing off his protagonists. I like that!

By the end of book 5 I got tired of it. Before then it was ok. He's been wasting our time showing us characters which then die, when I would much rather be reading about other characters. Like Arya.

I would say more, but I can't find the spoiler tags on the formatting options...oh wait, let me write it in white: Which would work, if the forum was actually white... ::)

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Alpha on September 07, 2011, 07:48:30 PM
By the end of book 5 I got tired of it. Before then it was ok. He's been wasting our time showing us characters which then die, when I would much rather be reading about other characters. Like Arya.

I would say more, but I can't find the spoiler tags on the formatting options...oh wait, let me write it in white: Which would work, if the forum was actually white... ::)

I read them without a break, and I started getting bogged down around book 4, but it picked up again for me around middle of book 5.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Alpha on September 08, 2011, 03:02:46 PM
"It may have been a blessing. He would have grown up to be a Frey."

Greatest quote from the whole series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bael on September 08, 2011, 03:20:12 PM
"It may have been a blessing. He would have grown up to be a Frey."

Greatest quote from the whole series.

Indeed, it was awesome. But worth a cut throat?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Darksun on September 08, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
I was in a bit of a "what the hell just happened" daze for a while after getting through the Red Wedding bit...

DO NOT GOOGLE THIS.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Shizzle on September 08, 2011, 09:25:08 PM
DO NOT GOOGLE THIS.

INDEED DON'T. Why did I? :(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Solari on September 09, 2011, 05:44:48 AM
I read them without a break, and I started getting bogged down around book 4, but it picked up again for me around middle of book 5.

I avoided Brienne and Cersei until midway through dance with dragons because I can't stand the characters (good job George), but yeah it really gets lively at the halfway point.  I'm also a huge fan of the Dornish chapters.  Braavos, too.  Such rich cultures.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Alpha on September 09, 2011, 06:17:19 PM
Indeed, it was awesome. But worth a cut throat?

Just so long as he gets to kill some Freys.

I avoided Brienne and Cersei until midway through dance with dragons because I can't stand the characters (good job George), but yeah it really gets lively at the halfway point.  I'm also a huge fan of the Dornish chapters.  Braavos, too.  Such rich cultures.

I love the Dornish and Ironborn chapters.  I had trouble getting through Sansa's chapters until later, and the last Sansa chapter made me want more.  I didn't care too much for Brienne's story. I like the Cersei stories mainly because they are always active.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: James on September 11, 2011, 03:32:04 PM
Having just finished the last book (so far) I will now be incredibly impatient for the next one(s)...

A few more unexpected surprises and it does mean I've still no idea where all this is going to end up (which is good).

Someone who lives nearby go and stand over him until he finishes writing the rest of the series!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: MaleMaldives on September 12, 2011, 08:25:07 AM
After watching the show, I wish a little bit that BattleMaster was like it a lot in term of the in fighting of noble familys, and really feeling like you have control over a territory and mass troops. Though it wouldn't work that well with the coming of going of players, and need for interest in constant warfare
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DoctorHarte on September 15, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
Man, I started the 5th book more than a month ago and still haven't finished it. It's just a bit too much detail and meaningless pages of.. stuff. So I've stopped for a while, should finish it soon. Though I was under the impression this was the last book >_<

He's getting old, I hope he doesn't pass away before he finishes the series XD
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bael on September 17, 2011, 10:33:22 AM
Man, I started the 5th book more than a month ago and still haven't finished it. It's just a bit too much detail and meaningless pages of.. stuff.

Hmm, yes, I mostly read books for the storyline, not all the stuff. I suspect it is a flaw, however. I finished it in a week or two.   ???
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DoctorHarte on September 18, 2011, 08:49:22 PM
Hmm, yes, I mostly read books for the storyline, not all the stuff. I suspect it is a flaw, however. I finished it in a week or two.   ???

Well I've been switching between that and "The Middle Seas" a history of the civilizations of the Mediterranean. I think the Minoans were the best so far - I'm only up to 1001 AD.

Anyways, just finished the 5th book last night. It wasn't as an exciting ending as I had wanted and GOD DAMN MARSH! >:(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Draco Tanos on October 05, 2011, 11:13:25 PM
I've read the first two books and am on the third, A Storm of Swords.  Great series so far.  Haven't had the chance to catch the TV show, though I'll probably purchase the first season when it's released on DVD.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Norrel on April 02, 2012, 12:43:01 AM
Will anyone else be watching the first episode of season 2 today?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Daycryn on April 02, 2012, 01:32:41 AM
I really wish I could but I don't have a TV and am unwilling to pirate stuff. Sucks to be me. Maybe one day...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Karedan on April 02, 2012, 08:51:49 AM
will watch it tonight when i get back from home.. i can't wait! been looking forward to this for weeks :D