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Atamara / Re: The Current War

« on: March 13, 2011, 02:24:42 PM »

Oh i have to add i am completely OOC in this of course,the forum has absolutely nothing to do with the game.

But i do get heated up sometimes hihi...that doesn't change the fact that this is OOC.

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Atamara / Re: The Current War

« on: March 13, 2011, 02:14:48 PM »

If we are being completely honest Darka couldn't have inflicted nearly as much damage without the support of Eston, to try and claim that you were the ones responsible is a bit far fetched. Eston has their Capital city a days march away from our border region. They have a similar sized army to you, can refit a lot quicker and I wouldn't say I've seen a huge difference in the ability of each of the Generals.

So I can't agree with the claims that you basically won the war for them. As I remember  Eston's allies didn't even bother to help them until their own demands were met first (this is the reason for their new government).  Coria has actually been pretty loyal to it's current allies in a lot of ways, even when faced with destruction. I'm trying hard for us to get a good name, one that everyone knows they can trust. It's been difficult at some points, but that's what I'm attempting to achieve. Be they enemy or allies, trust will be important for Coria.

If this is the view of Darkans in game, then quite frankly, they are no better than the Cagilans. Indeed, they've displayed many of the negative attributes the CE has displayed before now. Bossing Eston around in Eston's own foreign politics, thinking that they defeated Coria and not Eston.

I will not disagree on what they COULD have achieved but since this war started and at all the battles we had with coria..Eston had 5k army and Darka had 20k.

Do you honestly believe that with 5k army they could invade Barad Falas even without the Duke there?I seriously doubt it.The scout reports still exist in game and show the force they mastered in all these battles.It was weak because what they wanted was to secure their borders.

They had the exactly same force maybe 1k more when we were looting Coria,again without Darka they would have died pretty fast and be sure about it.

I am not talking about how much they could bring but what they brought.

Darka has won wars as an addition force of great activity and combat strength for many realms.I am in this realm for 6 years and i could start naming wars if you want me to, in which the problem always was that realms whined for Darka's presence on one side.In fact i am pretty sure you can find them still on the BM wiki.

This is not an arrogant statement,it is the truth,Darka was always a wealthy realm,working for others under payment thus what is spent is destroyed and the realm remained as wealthy as it was.

Try to see the big picture and read some scout reports of the recent battles and we can discuss this again if you wish.

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Atamara / Re: The Current War

« on: March 12, 2011, 11:29:02 PM »

For me it is an ooc discussion of course,it could never be ic anyway.

As Darkan player i have nothing to complain anymore i just disagreed that Darka shouldn't have a say on the treaty matter because she has every right.

As far as Talerium is concerned even though many would like to see Darka running through it to reach CE,is not going to happen for multiple reasons and i think that was made clear several times.

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Atamara / Re: The Current War

« on: March 12, 2011, 02:55:06 PM »

We tricked you?Funny,we had no idea about Eston wanting to sign peace with you.Absolutely none.We only learned about that when Merlin came back to Barad Falas and told us.

See maybe you don't know your facts right.We wanted to pass through Coria,nothing more.Eston wanted her borders safe so we were kinda helping them with that before heading to CE.Coria was not our primary target,just something between our target and us.

To us is was a normal march and once we saw the Duke was out of town,we attacked.If you have issues about being tricked on that you should have asked Eston to explain herself.Another reason why Darka should NOT suffer the decisions of others.Things like that taking place behind out back and no one contacting Darka.

Also about Kostaja asking Eston to attack Coria?LAL? We were almost told that Eston would have signed her treaty and we wouldn't have access through Coria.You know what that means?Talerium doesn't allow Darka to move through her lands,Coria neither....are we the toys of others to win wars for them and then not being allowed to travel through wherever we want?I freaking don;t think so.

You asked Eston a peace treaty in the first place because DARKA was the one to loot to the ground the mountains and then camp the capital of Coria.We won this chance for peace treaty with Coria for Eston.If you fail to see this and understand that this is giving Darka the right to demand a part in this treaty ,then what can i say.

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Atamara / Re: The Current War

« on: March 12, 2011, 01:03:40 PM »

Wow...Y'all sure seem to complain a lot about a treaty that your realms had no reason to be able to influence. Coria fought a war against Eston, and Eston's allies joined in with them. Coria signs a peace treaty with Eston and Eston's allies should also then sign a peace treaty with Coria. Eston's the only realm that was at war with Coria that had any right to make demands of Coria.

-Bip wrooong. Coria fought a war with Eston yes but Darka was supposed not only to help Eston but to also attack CE.Our only way through was through Coria.

You see the only reason there was a win for Eston in this war was our presence there with almost 16k army.If it wasn't for Darka things would be different.Darka did not fight just to help Eston but to secure her way to CE since Talerium is out of the question and through Tara is like 4 days travel.Even without Eston,while Merlin was away from his city and that is HIS mistake ,Darka could easily come in Barad Falas for as long as their units could manage to stay out.
Of course and Darka has a say in this.According to my opinion it was a mistake to even consider signing a treaty on our behalf as well.Since when the real damage force is to be considered irrelevant?
If you really wanted to bring this on a 1vs 1 level you could easily do that instead of signing treaties.Make this a 1vs 1 war and win or lose it.
Darka had every right to claim her way through Coria's mountains and demand a say in this treaty.