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Show posts MenuQuote from: Deytheur on June 27, 2014, 11:16:30 AM
And that shows you don't understand the situation. There are very few people 'bashing' Atanamir, just trying to explain what happened and the reason he was banned. They have clearly expressed that they believed he could be a nice guy too. You are defending him so fanatically that you can't see past anything than 'Grr the evil developers banned my friend' and are doing all you can to discredit them instead. Clinging to the fact that he reported some of the multicheaters doesn't help when you ignore the rest of the situation. Actually admit maybe he wasn't always the nicest guy to other people, which there is plenty of evidence for. What about Wolfang's post? Don't want to comment on that? He's a neutral person and as far as I know not especially friends with any of the devs and yet I was quite shocked by what he said.
Quote from: Fleugs on June 27, 2014, 10:08:04 AM
m2rt, you give a speaking platform to a fool and it poorly reflects upon yourself. If you cannot see that Atanamir is a manipulator and, frankly, a crybaby and a hypocrite for being so easily offended while he offends others by the load, I should review what I think about you. I know you're all about anarchy and whatnot but what you are trying to achieve here is counter-productive for you or for anyone else that vigorously defends Atanamir.
By the way, he was totally paranoia. When he came to me about the Dobromir/Deytheur matter... man, Atanamir has serious issues he needs to address.
QuoteFor some time now, Alex has clearly felt that it was his job to police the game for what he felt were people hurting the game.
-Anaris
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And the problem is that he cares about them (answer to the first Perdan, then the game argument) in that order.
-Anaris
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"we dislike cheaters and abusers, and players and GameMasters cooperate on removing them."
-Battlemaster description, m2rt
QuoteBroadly (and at the risk of stating the obvious), I would say that the way to get players to stop viewing other players as The Enemy is to get them to either work or play together at something.
-Anaris
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It promotes an "us vs. them" mentality, I think. An idea that the other side will use any method that it takes to win.
-Indirik
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Yes, he's been around nearly as long as I have. But when he becomes a cancer on the game, driving away more new players than he inspires old ones, it doesn't matter how long he's been here, just what he's doing now.
Alexandros was removed from the game because he has shown a long history of toxic behaviour that has driven a number of people we know about out of the game, and certainly many others we don't.
-Anaris
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Do not be unnecessarily easily offended. Do not be unnecessarily offensive.
-Anaris
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[21:38] <Atanamir> Delvin_Anaris: hello I would like a public apaology by the titans
[21:38] <Atanamir> is that possible?
[21:38] <Delvin_Anaris> Nope.
[21:38] <Delvin_Anaris> You're on thin ice already, mate.
[21:38] <Delvin_Anaris> Don't push it.
[21:38] <Atanamir> i was publically called paranoid and accused for reporting for IC reasons, all accounts who got now locked
[21:39] <Delvin_Anaris> Irrelevant to your thin ice.
[21:39] <Atanamir> I want this to be corrected
[21:39] <Delvin_Anaris> I don't know how much clearer I can make this to you.
[21:39] <Delvin_Anaris> No.
[21:39] <Delvin_Anaris> You are persona non grate.
[21:39] <Delvin_Anaris> *grata
[21:39] <Delvin_Anaris> You are very lucky you were locked for 3 days, and not permanently.
[21:39] <Atanamir> so, you, don#t see my point?
[21:39] <Delvin_Anaris> You will take what you get, whether you like it or not.
[21:40] <Delvin_Anaris> You happened to be right about some of the people who you thought were clanning.
[21:40] <Delvin_Anaris> That does not make your behaviour any more acceptable.
[21:40] <Atanamir> actually all of them
[21:40] <Atanamir> i am not taliing about the behaviour
[21:40] <Delvin_Anaris> I am.
[21:40] <Atanamir> i am calling about the line
[21:40] <Atanamir> paranoia
[21:40] <Atanamir> that was insulting
[21:40] <Delvin_Anaris> You are paranoid.
[21:41] <Atanamir> and as can be seen not correct
[21:41] <Delvin_Anaris> Every single time you get involved in a war, you start reporting people.
[21:41] <Atanamir> that is not fact and you know that
[21:41] <Delvin_Anaris> Just because this time there were people out to get you, it doesn't mean you're not paranoid.
[21:41] <Atanamir> lol they were out to get the game...
[21:41] <Atanamir> not me or you
[21:41] <Atanamir> we are actually on the same side
[21:41] * Delvin_Anaris laughs
[21:41] <Delvin_Anaris> It is totally true, and I do know it.
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> This discussion is over.
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> No, see, we're not.
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> Becuase you think it's *your* job to police the game.
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> It's not.
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> It is the Titans' job
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> and you need to leave it to the Titans.
[21:42] <Atanamir> no, but i think it is to help when i see something.
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> Not start banning people IC for bogus OOC reasons.
[21:42] <Atanamir> And I was right now.
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> The first report you made was fine.
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> Then you made 3 more reports, and bugged me on IRC, and banned people IC for OOC reasons, and none of that was fine.
[21:42] <Atanamir> i agree on the bans
[21:42] <Delvin_Anaris> This is over.
[21:43] <Delvin_Anaris> Done.
[21:43] <Atanamir> hey i agree on the bans, again.
[21:43] <Delvin_Anaris> Goodbye.
[21:43] <Atanamir> i want the paranoia thing clarified
[21:43] <Atanamir> it was insulting
[21:43] <Atanamir> and you are insulting to me.
[21:43] <Atanamir> and i gave you no reason for it.
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Atanamir..well, for many years he played the game just fine. No problems. Then in the past year or two he somehow managed to change into someone who got permanently banned from the game. I doubt that would have happened had the community around him not also changed.
-Lilwolf
Quote from: Lapallanch on June 26, 2014, 04:54:38 AM
Sad to see people leave but what has been done had to be done. Things will settle down eventually.
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It started with Dobromir and Deytheur, whom he believed had begun a RL relationship.
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But it wasn't long before he was doing more of the same. Reporting suspected clans to the Titans is fine, but not when you send 4 or 5 reports within a week just to say, "Hey, why haven't you locked them all yet? I found them for you, that should be all the evidence you need!" (Not in those words, obviously, but that was the implication.) And then when the Titans didn't act fast enough to lock those he thought were clan members, he just made up bogus IC reasons to ban them from Perdan
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The most recent incident was the last straw. Miriam, whom I know both of you know from IRC, and I think it's absolutely clear she would never knowingly abuse a bug in any way, had a character move into a region where Alex thought she should have sparked a battle. He immediately took to the airwaves, broadcasting all across the EC that anyone who dared to move into that region now would be obviously exploiting a bug, and thus abusing the game (due to the fact that there should have been a battle, thus giving someone-or-other an advantage they shouldn't have had).
Quote from: Fleugs on April 03, 2014, 11:38:00 AM
It's been a while since I fell for an April 1st BM-joke, but this one totally got me. Even when I was aware it was April 1st, I just wanted it to be real. ;)
Quote from: Anaris on August 19, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
First of all, duels are already hella random. I don't remember the exact figures, but there's a huge spread that you have to have between the skills before a duel is anything like a sure thing.
Second of all, no one knows anyone else's skill unless the other person has shown off at a tournament. If they trained at the academy and then told you their skill, they could perfectly easily have lied. Bullies also tend to inflate their skills.
Third of all, if someone with known high swordfighting skill is challenging everyone and his dog to death duels, there's a perfectly simple way to prevent him from harming anyone: Just don't accept. There is no penalty. In fact, this is why there is no penalty.