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Other Games / Re: Dwarf Fortress

« on: March 17, 2011, 08:55:44 AM »

My problem has been the game slowing down once it reaches a certain size.

For one of my fortresses I setup next to a river and then dug a moat. The goblins had to go through one area that I had left as an entrance which was also filled with traps. I think that one fell when a forgotten beast came up through one of the tunnels and started killing people.

One fortress I had to abandon when I dug into a underground lake from below (on accident)while building a second shaft for dwarves to use. I had somehow missed a underground layer completely in my attempt to dig down to find lava.

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Beluaterra / Beluaterra Map

« on: March 17, 2011, 05:53:34 AM »

I know that an actual change to Beluaterra's map is unlikely since it would be a lot of work on Tom and the Dev team.

But, it would be interesting if when the blight is removed the areas under blight were changed. I imagine areas previously fertile being badlands and parts sunk into the ocean by earthquakes or other forces. The west has the largest area under blight. I could imagine parts of it under water and islands or a new mountain range.

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Beluaterra / Re: What to do with all that blight?

« on: March 17, 2011, 04:35:25 AM »

I do wonder what might have been had Mesh gone all the way and made an alliance with the Monsters. Instead, she had a short dalliance with the idea and then rejected it as she did not wish to sacrifice her populace. She wanted Monster help without offering them any benefits. To be fair, if I recall rightly they did ask for Mesh to abandon her democratic heritage for a single reliable King the Monsters could work with during invasion, but in the face of annihilation, was it so unreasonable?

At any rate, Mesh couldn't bring herself to support the Monsters proposal. The small contingent of monsters that had gathered around Twillen and the monster lord that brought them disappeared even as the daimons advanced. I think it's interesting that part of the decision, aside from appointing a King, rested on the loss of strength that would go with sacrificing half of Mesh' populace to the monsters, but rejecting monster alliance is essentially what condemned the entire populace of Mesh to blight and destruction.

Did so swiftly swallowing up Heen and Mesh essentially deliver an unassailable daimonic dominance over other factions, human or otherwise? All the factions seem to gain strength from taking human regions and bleeding the local populace dry and almost from the outbreak of Invasion, the Netherworld had most of Western Beluaterra under its thumb. Due, almost entirely, you could argue, to the intransigence and short-sightedness of Heen and Mesh in their respective approaches to the Invasion.

My understanding was that the different factions had different recruitment methods. Granted, the result was the same for undead and monsters. The undead killed to create more undead while the monsters used people as food. Daimons didn't seem to need to depopulate regions to get reinforcements. My impression was more that they had a limited number of troops to draw from and/or a limit on how many at a time. Almost makes me think of Starcraft...(Daimons = Protoss, Undead = Zerg, Monsters = Terran).

If I remember correctly Mesh was destroyed before the blight had appeared or at least after we had already rejected the Monsters. Certainly before we understood what it meant.

As the Daimons tore through Heen, the Monsters had split their forces with most in the south and only a smaller group around Mesh. Those Monsters were defeated quickly by the Daimons.

So, my opinion is that it wouldn't have made a difference in the end. The Daimons were determined to destroy Mesh. Even if the Monsters had sent more troops Mesh was going to be destroyed by the Daimons or by the Monsters using our lands as a feeding ground for their young.

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Beluaterra / Re: Speculation on the goals of the invaders

« on: March 15, 2011, 03:14:16 PM »

I seem to recall reading some stuff on the wiki regarding what the Daimons thought of the Light. Can't remember where though...

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BM General Discussion / Re: Character Alignments

« on: March 12, 2011, 09:38:16 AM »

Relkin has been either Lawful Neutral or Lawful Good. 
Yorick is Neutral Good. Almost had him turn evil but didn't have the time to do the necessary roleplay to flesh it out. But, hes a bit fragile, if he lives til the next invasion on Beluaterra he might fall apart and bacome evil.
Roxas is Chaotic Good.

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Beluaterra / Re: What did we lose? What did we gain? 4th Inv aftermath

« on: March 09, 2011, 11:55:21 AM »

You chose your "evils". You continuously fought alongside Sint, and betrayed the realm that founded you over a fringe religion having but a handful of followers in it (and even having greater numbers of followers and temples in other realms). Sint worshipped the invaders as gods, tried to summon their "destroyer" god, and unleashed their armies against the other realms of the continent. The Blood Cult did...

Yet it was the greater evil? No, the Blood Cult was a pretext. There were a *lot* of clues that were picked up that Mesh would eventually betray Enweil, it came as a surprise only to those too blinded by the memories of the old days.

Basically all realms engaged in long walks to fight the daimons. Rio did, Enweil did, all according to their abilities and opportunities. Considering this, Mesh did not do any more than anyone else. Hell, considering they had much greater opportunity and capacity to act, they did considerably less than many.

Yes we were allied with Sint for a time but not because we liked them or suddenly forgot what they did during the war. We allied them to fight the Daimons at Jopo's Mouth. It was considered a necessary evil to fighting the Daimons at the time. Given the right opportunity and ability to do so we would have been glad to see Sint get what it deserved despite their supposed repenting of their ways after the 3rd invasion.

Also, considering various individuals within the Blood Cult were part of the Netherworld we did think they were a big threat. We thought the Daimons were using it as a way to gain influence in human realms.

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Beluaterra / Re: What did we lose? What did we gain? 4th Inv aftermath

« on: March 08, 2011, 09:04:01 AM »

A regret of Mesh will remain that we never got around to destroying Sint for their alliance with the Daimons. There was so many things to do after the 3rd invasion, hunt the Blood Cult, kill daimons, destroy Sint. Part of the varied focus at times came from different leaders elected.

Mesh did help destroy Vlaanderen whom we viewed as traitors to humanity for making a Daimon their God. I disagree that Mesh did little about the nests. We marched troops all the way to the islands to fight them and our actions provoked one of the few actions by the Daimons after the main invasion when the Daimons attacked us.

Our war with Enweil had to do with the Blood Cult, which Mesh viewed as evil and working with the Daimons. I know you and the rest of Enweil have a different view of why we were involved but thats the reason I remember discussed from having a character in the realm at that time.

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Beluaterra / Re: What did we lose? What did we gain? 4th Inv aftermath

« on: March 08, 2011, 03:00:31 AM »

After the third invasion realms were pretty quick to re-claim the regions lost. The regions held by the invaders also had large numbers of Daimons in them so the monsters/undead that spawned there were destroyed by the Daimon Militia rather than wandering into human held lands.

Mesh would have continued to push on the northern Daimon lands but after our failed attack it seemed impossible to capture the area. The Daimons just brought more troops through the portal..

There was a storyline that the Daimon's regions around Beluaterra after the 3rd invasion were their breeding grounds but I don't recall that carrying over into the 4th invasion. I'm not sure if thats because of Mesh and other realms actually had destroyed them all or if it was dropped?

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Beluaterra / Re: Undead

« on: March 07, 2011, 11:33:29 AM »

Fronen hasn't seen any hordes like that. Most smaller than 1-1.5k cs that I can think of. There might have been one that was 2k cs...

The rate of spawns within Fronen hasn't seemed much different than usual to me, our territory next to the rogue regions covered in black fog are the ones we've been having the most battles in. Had several large groups move from those regions into our border regions.