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I haven't heard anything about a rebellion in Cathay . . .

. . . if you're referring to the rebellion in Kindara, though, curious to see how that plays out and affects things.  Don't know that it's actually all that good for conflict, though, the reason it succeeded was due to most of Kindara's army having already marched off to go to war (or so I hear).

I'm not going to rule it out if we get really bored, but I've never really been happy with Batesaor being called the 'Pirate City,' simply because most people when they think of pirates tend to think of something non-medieval.  If I can get people thinking of the pirates of Batesaor in a different way, then . . . well, perhaps.  Maybe after the semester is over I'll have enough time for the RP on it.

Though there is the issue that the Duke of Batesaor is also probably the most loyal Zonasan after the Regent.  But we are getting kinda bored, so you never know. . . .

When I first saw the link, I thought it was for buying real world stuff.  Then I reread the text and figured I should look at it.

I was rather confused for the 15 seconds that it took to remember what day it was.

If you're taking more overseers, I'd love to be added.  This seems quite fun.

If I sent several RPs about my character running over plans in his head about how he was going to kill the duke, would you expect the entire realm to just ignore it? If I went to try the hit and saw that for the next several days there were people out patrolling the streets to make it harder, should I start screaming "Powergamer!" because there are police patrols around when there really isn't any valid reason? (Or at lest one that I know of.)

Without question, yes.

Or how about if I RPd my character thinking about the coming rebellion, and listing the names of my conspirators, and how we're going to get the army sent away so the plan works easier. Is the entire realm supposed to just go along with the orders, knowing full well that as soon as they get four regions away for the capitol, that the entire home guard army is going to rebel?

Ideally.  I doubt that everyone would, given that a lot of people are probably going to want to save their power in the realm by any means even if it means violating OOC/IC separation, but ideally, yeah, and I bet it would be pretty fun for everyone involved.  But I doubt it will happen.

Can you see how this kind of thing is entirely unfair to the rest of the players of the game, making them try to remember to separate all this information that the player knows but not the character? You're forcing everyone in the realm to just have their character blindly go along with this, knowing that their characters are walking into a trap.

That's part of roleplaying, separating stuff you know from what your character knows.  I don't see how it's at all unfair if BM is a roleplaying game.

And then let's not forget that you /always/ have the opportunity that someone just innocently slips and uses the info IC because they forgot that the information was sent as private thoughts. Then how do you resolve those kinds of things? Especially if the slip happens when the "thinker" character doesn't see that the information is being passed. Like it gets sent to a foreign ruler. And then that foreign ruler thinks that the info is perfectly valid IC info and spreads it around.

Slips happen.  One hopes that people can be forgiving of accidents, just as one hopes that people would not deliberately misuse OOC info.  Experience shows that neither of these are always the case, of course, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't hold them up as ideals.

Yeah, I think you're right.  But I was really hoping Kindara was going to wade in, and then Aenilia would join to counter them, and that would keep everyone too busy to do anything to me for the near future (grins).

Hehe . . . that last part may have played into things a little.  Morgan doesn't quite trust Jenred.

So in short: nobles and commoners are essentially inequal, however it is the nobles choice wether to act according to that or not?

Unless you're RPing an insane person, no.  If you treat them as equal, then you are obviously insane.

It's your choice if you want to treat them as lesser but worthy of good treatment, however.  Which is something entirely different than equality.

At least, I think that's what Tom is trying to say here.

Yes, FEI is entering a tourney phase, which is somewhat sad.  I'm still shocked that the C'thonians and Zonasans worked out a peace deal, and I have a dirty suspicion that Ziode started doing the "we'll attack people who are aggressive" nonsense.

Some implications of that might have been involved.

But that's alright, because we in Zonasa don't believe for a minute that Thain can keep himself from attacking us for long, so I doubt the peace will last.

Since this relates more to the religion thread than SA itself, tell me... If they can discuss about creation mythos and the afterlife, *do they*?

There was, actually, a RP centered around afterlife mythos just a few days ago.  So yes, if infrequently.

Saying that commoners are equal to nobles?  Totally ridiculous and a sign of insanity.

Saying that they should be treated kindly?  Perfectly valid and at worst a sign of eccentricity.


If your adventurer is getting picked on by one noble, then make yourself valuable to a more powerful noble.  Perhaps you may still be a dog, but only a fool lets someone else beat up their prize hunting dog without good reason.

FEI is indeed in another tournament phase.

On that note, FEI would be my favorite.  Dwilight might give it a run for its money if the realm I was in wasn't falling apart due to lack of nobles.

I'm not entirely sure offhand and would have to do a bit of searching to figure out.  However, offhand I would guess that it would be France, but what time period I'm not entirely sure.

Define 'going around showing off,' though.  If you mean going to tournaments and such, that's easy to figure out, if you mean just riding around and showing off . . . I really have no idea.

Any Medieval dress experts around to shed some light on what nobles wore back then? I recall that player-character nobles were all among the higher ranks of nobility, as almost all of them were capable of assuming the throne (given a monarchy).

Just like today, it depended upon what was in fashion.  And given that the middle ages covered a very great period of time and locations, this varied quite a bit.

Is there any particular time period and culture that you are interested in as far as clothing goes?

If you want to know the general rules for medieval European heraldry:

http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/


Different cultures and time periods had more specific customs, but that covers the basic and mostly universal parts.

Piracy was certainly prevalent.  However, it wasn't so much practiced by nobles.

In that nobles generally did not do the actual pirating, yes.  However, nobles were certainly involved in piracy, sponsoring groups of pirates that would operate near their lands and give them a portion of their profits.  I know this was true in Ireland, and wouldn't be surprised if similar situations existed elsewhere.

One could also think of the Vikings as pirates of a sort, if you stretch definitions a bit.

However, you are wrong about worshipping a king. LATE European kingdoms believed in "Divine Right," but Medieval monarchs did not rule by Divine Right. It's really late-Middle-Ages up to the Enlightenment that sees absolutist monarchs. Even theologically steeped, powerful monarchs like Charlemagne or Alfred the Great didn't have anything approaching Divine Right. And they CERTAINLY weren't worshipped.

In a similar vein, aren't things like 'separation of church and state' a post medieval idea?  Seeing so many people supporting more modern ideas like this is one of the exotic things that annoys me.  But I could be wrong.