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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 16, 2011, 01:59:31 AM »
The duke of Barad Falas is the ruler now? Man, Peregrin missed the ball on that. Then again, Peregrin kinda messed up by not dying heroically in battle.  >:(

Sorry for those that don't know Coria's history, the Duke of Barad Falas, *was* the Ruler of Coria for quite a long time. Now he's Duke and Ambassador (because he just can't stay away from politics)

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How's that then?

Well losing wars of secession/rebellions doesn't do to well in that respect.

(I am correct in that this is the Serko from PeL right?)

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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 16, 2011, 01:45:12 AM »
You're assuming they're telling you the full truth about their positions. Or at least some version of the truth. Or maybe something that has some kernel of truth buried in it somewhere. Which doesn't have to be the case at all. In fact, I'd be surprised if any of the rulers gave you anything more than their fast and loose interpretation of events. They're certainly not going to give you the entire story.

That is most certainly true and I hadn't really considered that. Although, if they are lying to my character, then what does it matter if I misunderstand things. At least I tried.

It is amusing, as it does seem to me that General's tend to be the most "into" the war, and yet don't always exactly know much any of the politics around it. Of course, mine would have to be an exception, as I went from General to Ruler, so it is a bit opposite there.

I think that the combativeness on the forum about this topic comes from how angry the entire northern alliance was with Eston over how they handled the peace treaty process, and the final treaty to which they agreed.

*Pats my character on the back* "Great work kid!" ;) Hate to take credit for that one, but drafting the treaty that gets signed is quite amusing from the other end of the spectrum. Although, is your character the Darkan or Estonian General? I know my character spoke specifically with the Darkan General and Ruler and they all said they were quite fine with the terms of the treaty (not in those words) before it was signed, but ended up making a ruckuss afterwords. I remember distinctly Darka saying something along the lines of "only wanting access to CE" and if they got that and we were able to get peace with Eston they'd be happy.

Cheers!!!

*Goes back to trying to repair a city....*

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*sniff* It's still something I've always wanted to do.  Guess I'll chase other fame points then, like outcast.  Though I swear Serko should've earned that by now.

Winning a rebellion is the easy part. Try winning a rebellion, getting made ruler, and getting banned all within 5 seconds. Now THAT is an accomplishment. ;)

P.S. Perhaps if things had worked differently with PeL you would have.

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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 15, 2011, 06:46:06 PM »
Judging from what I've seen you post on these forums, I'd have to say that this is certainly not true.

Okay, well I understand that my character doesn't know "everything" about what is taking place behind doors in the NA but I know for sure he knows just as much about what is going on in Atamara as any ruler on the island if not more. My character essentially helped craft the initial declaration of war against Eston as well as knows all of the original declaration of wars since then from each new realm involved. As well as personal conversations with each of the Ruler's in the Northern Alliance. If that isn't enough, then I don't know what is.

P.S. I do find it amusing how quick everyone is to leap to each other's throats about how this war got started, when they don't realize how much fun this war will will have been for so many people involved by the time it finally comes to a close. It is very easy to start wars, but it is much more difficult to end them.

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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 15, 2011, 10:22:58 AM »
When talking about information I would like to say that misinformed characters are even worse as the players start to believe something that simply isnt true.

At least I know for sure that my character is certainly not misinformed on any of the current issues. It always pays to have connections. ;)

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BM General Discussion / Re: Tops and Flops
« on: March 14, 2011, 04:41:56 AM »
Tops:

1. Unique Gameplay - The political intrigue, all of the different options available, the way that the hierarchy works and how players fully run the game world is absolutely the best thing ever.
2. Persistent Game World (No resets, long histories which shape the game forever is just awesome.)
3. Players, Devs, Support - All Superb, can't find any better in any other game.

Flops:

1. Estate System - It is a great idea if we had double the current playerbase. However with the current player base this limits the ability for realms to do a lot of things. There is no way for realm's to expand without many more nobles. Without more nobles you won't get war, and without war, there won't be more nobles. Causes cyclic problems which need to be dealt with.
2. Player base dwindling - I'm not sure what can be done here, but there is a need for more players if the game is to continue being as fun as it currently is. Many of my characters are limited without more players joining to fill in characters. It is sad and unfortunate, but we need a way to attract new players that are going to stay around and help the game grow.
3. Lack of a method by which new players can distinguish between good realms and bad. I know this will be hard to develop a good system for, but I think it would go a long way towards helping retain new players and build a larger playerbase.

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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 13, 2011, 04:42:05 AM »
Hmm, popular topic.  Is this mainly an OOC or IC discussion?  Or a murky middle ground? ;)

I agree that this is mainly an OOC Discussion. None of the information discussed here should be used IC. Especially because I doubt many characters truly understand the inner workings of some of the thoughts that have been expressed of characters here.

Now, granted it has taken on the feeling of a murky middle ground, and I admit that is partially my fault and I apologize. I don't think it is necessarily bad form to be biased towards one realm or another OOC wise, as long as you are fairly objective in statements and not biased against "players".

As far as the original topic I still stand by my prediction of CE losing the war. It may take a long time, but that is the eventual outcome.

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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 12, 2011, 08:17:55 PM »
I do find it hard to understand what Darka is complaining about with regards to the treaty overall though. Darka solely wants military access to CE. They have it. They have the single fastest route to CE that Coria is even able to offer you. What route exactly do you want? There are many slower routes that we can offer, but we expected the fastest one was preferred.

Unless of course the purpose of the war "isn't" to fight CE. If it is to destroy Coria even though we are cooperating, then that is of course something which I'd be interesting in having your leaders present to us.

Not to mention, we offered the only route Coria actually has to CE without going through Tara. So if you intend to attack Tara instead that is also worth noting.


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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 12, 2011, 04:31:57 AM »
I think the fact that I parked a 20,000 cs army in your capital for an entire week gives me some right to make demands.

No, it gives Eston the right to make the demands as you initially joined the war on their behalf. (Based upon the original war declarations which my character as Ruler was all too aware of).

Also, although it makes little difference now, you're army would have been slaughtered had my character been in the city at the time.


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BM General Discussion / Re: Colonies and "Enough" Nobles
« on: March 12, 2011, 12:37:30 AM »
There are quite clearly not enough noble characters to go around everywhere. I can guarantee you that Atamara could easily use another 200 nobles to just fill up the current space and allow more contention for regions. Coria has dropped from 45 nobles to 24 nobles over the course of the past 6 months or so, because there just isn't a large influx of players into the game. We are hardly able to maintain our current lands and if we had the nobles that we had 6 months ago we could have possibly won the war we just finished fighting.

The fact is, that Coria was spared from destruction because our enemies were also short on nobles. Shoot, i was able to state quite clearly to my enemy leaders that they couldn't even attempt to take over my lands so they might as well gain us as allies because they can't expand any other way. While it sounds like good diplomacy from me, it just means that the entire situation sucks. Battlemaster needs 1000 new players in the game and then things would be much better off with the current estate system.

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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 12, 2011, 12:28:01 AM »
Wow...Y'all sure seem to complain a lot about a treaty that your realms had no reason to be able to influence. Coria fought a war against Eston, and Eston's allies joined in with them. Coria signs a peace treaty with Eston and Eston's allies should also then sign a peace treaty with Coria. Eston's the only realm that was at war with Coria that had any right to make demands of Coria.

At any rate, y'all are way wrong about Eston joining CE's sphere of influence. Kerwin knows quite clearly how much the word of Coria's leaders can be depended on. Coria and Eston growing closer in friendship and alliance is just one step in the entire upheaval of Atamara. It is easy to take a look at a peace treaty and think you know everything that is going on. Also, it is very easy to make up the thoughts of the leaders of many realms but unless you know why the diplomatic actions that are going on, you're just leaping to conclusions. I can guarantee you that things are going on in the background and stuff is shifting.

Anyway, Coria clearly lost the war, and Eston certainly gains more by making a friend than "trying" to assimilate the duchy of Barad Falas. Hammarsett being greedy and trying to take regions from Coria is the only thing slowing down the North's invasion of CE. Which I find quite amusing.

Want my prediction for this war? CE loses, simple as that. Unless some betrayals happen amongst one of the other two alliances (the non-CE ones) then it is bound to happen. However, if one of the two other alliances is broken up then the entire island will fall into chaos.

P.S. Whoever said the sword was mightier than the pen I invite to tell that to my Diplomat. ;)

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