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Atamara / Re: Atamara Update?

« on: January 11, 2014, 06:44:17 AM »

Also you've just described blackmail... "We know you treasure XYZ, so if you don't obey, we'll hurt XYZ." It might work, but it only ever builds resent. We thought Darka would have enough sense to realize that wasn't going to work.

I think that's extortion, actually.

black·mail
noun
1. the action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding money from a person in return for not revealing compromising or injurious information about that person.

"Pay me 1000 gold, sir, or I will reveal to all the other nobles that you have intimate relations with goats!"

ex·tor·tion
noun
1. the practice of obtaining something, esp. money, through force or threats.

"That's a nice realm you've got there. It would be a shame if SOMEONE BURNT IT TO THE GROUND."

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Atamara / Re: Religion of Atamara

« on: December 27, 2013, 08:15:32 AM »

The Word is still active.

(Edit: Brain derp.)

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Atamara / Strange Tidings

« on: December 22, 2013, 07:43:48 AM »

IT'S HAPPENING.

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BM General Discussion / Re: If I change one thing to make Battlemaster better, I would...

« on: August 10, 2013, 05:44:04 AM »

Get rid of the infiltrator class. 

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BM General Discussion / Re: Limited Wars

« on: August 10, 2013, 05:43:28 AM »

What about something like Europa Universalis's infamy mechanic? (Not that different from the realm honor suggestion earlier.)
http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Reputation

Of course we'll need a more complex and formalized war mechanic to go with it. Then TOing a region will not be the same as formally absorbing it. At the end of a war, realms "settle up", and those that took regions without historical (or fabricated!) claims gain infamy. Infamy slowly go down over time. If your realm's infamy becomes too high, then every other realm can take your regions without accruing infamy themselves. We can introduce additional penalties for high infamy to discourage it if necessary.

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BM General Discussion / Re: Facebook Campaign

« on: July 28, 2013, 07:46:08 PM »

If you value your sanity, stay away from the deletionists.

Reading these posts, I had to laugh when I imagined you were both old grumpy men haha 

'Hey Bob, maybe it'd be a good idea to add them 'hashtags' kids be a-usin' these days'
'What's a hashtag Herman? I don't know nothin' 'bout those, can we grow them?'

Hey Wolfang, I think reality is stealing your jokes:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/25/1226567/-Shadowy-group-of-losers-plot-conservative-strategy-hashtags

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BM General Discussion / Re: Closing Islands ?

« on: July 27, 2013, 08:17:05 PM »

Closing an island (or islands) will just drive more players away.

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Feature Requests / Re: Ability to reject a region from joining your realm

« on: July 27, 2013, 08:15:48 PM »

Just give the region back. This is already implemented.

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Atamara / Re: Rebellion in Silnarnia

« on: July 24, 2013, 07:14:02 AM »

I believe he's saying that having two family members in one realm helps you during a rebellion. This is not true.

From the wiki:

Once the rebellion breaks out, all the nobles in the realm will have the opportunity to declare their stance as either a Rebel or a Loyalist. They can also choose neither side and remain neutral. Nobles in the underground are not automatically Rebels, they must still declare themselves as Rebels. Nobles who do not choose sides will be considered Neutral, and will not participate in battles between the Rebels and Loyalists. If two family members are in the realm, then only one of them will be allowed to choose sides. The second family member will be forced to remain neutral.

Source: http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Rebellion

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Magistrates Case Archive / Re: Player Harassment and Creation of a Toxic Atmosphere

« on: July 13, 2013, 11:18:21 AM »

Whoa, you must be new here.KK has actually posted that as an answer IN CHARACTER to rulers, he even received reports for vulgarity and received his loss of honor points for it.

So yeah.lol sad panda. Also it actually mean socks, dirty ones, dirty king's socks.

I don't think someone who insists on repeatedly calling me "Sad Panda" should judge whether I'm creating a toxic atmosphere for other players.

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Magistrates Case Archive / Re: Player Harassment and Creation of a Toxic Atmosphere

« on: July 13, 2013, 10:23:15 AM »

I'm pretty sure thats what Silverfire felt reading all those messages.

What ticks me a bit, is that you dont seem to see anything wrong on those messages or the "gangbang" ooc/ic mocking?
I think we all can agree that those wasnt as individual messages that bad, but when there is several people pointing fingers 1 person and mocking him... we have problem. Not sure if it is worth anything else than inform people doing it that it sucks... but what worrys me is that you dont seem to see anything wrong happening here.

Except I'm trying to talk to him about it, not dragging him in front of the Magistrates as first reaction.

And for the umpteenth time, it's fine if it's directed against a noble. I personally find "suck my sock" to be offensive and hostile, because we both know you don't really mean "sock", but I'm not reporting you or Lavigna to the Magistrates because I understand that it's all in-character.

You are free to disagree. I guess the solution is going to be ceasing all in-game and in-forum communication with certain players... Now that's just sad.

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Magistrates Case Archive / Re: Player Harassment and Creation of a Toxic Atmosphere

« on: July 13, 2013, 07:47:46 AM »

Used in certain context its not possible to sanely state he was referring to a cigarette. Hammergay was used, and no one describes a group of people as cigarettes. Quit trying to !@#$ing twist !@#$ thats plain as day. When you use fag in reference to people it is never, ever tobacco rolled in paper.

I was just using that as an example, as Wansu obviously did not say "fag". If you want a better example, maybe in India "gay" still means "happy". I don't know. I'm not an ethnolinguist.

Must you be so hostile all the time?

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Magistrates Case Archive / Re: Player Harassment and Creation of a Toxic Atmosphere

« on: July 13, 2013, 01:44:45 AM »

I can't claim perfect memory either. I just feel that it would be more fair if TH included all messages from the players involved, including the ones he sent. But perhaps that is not practical. That would be a lot of messages to read through.

I believe the argument was that some nobles were ICly refusing to recognize Silnaria as a realm. Then TH chimed in OOCly that game mechanics trumps RP, and therefore Silnaria is too a real realm. And then I said, "Exactly, game mechanics trumps RP, so CE is still allied with Coria, not Silnaria." I can't guarantee that it was TH who sent the message, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't start the whole argument. I was responding to someone else.

Anyway, if you arrange the messages chronologically, I believe everyone will see that the timeline is:

~4 weeks ago: Merlin founds Silnaria

A flurry of OOC jokes about the realm name and OOC criticism of Merlin in the League of the Eagle guild.

Merlin sent this message:

Out-of-Character from Merlin Silverfire   (31 days, 8 hours ago)
Message sent to everyone in "League of the Eagle" (50 recipients)
If the 5th strongest realm on Atamara isn't real, then I don't know what is.

At any rate, I think these conversations can be kept out of the realm of OOC. If you want to hate on my character, do it in game so that there are repercussions for it.
TH

A few occasional IC jokes about the realm name and IC criticism of Merlin in the League of the Eagle guild. Which stops after about two weeks.

Wansu (Jason's player), who was not in the guild (not to mention I'm pretty sure he was paused at the time) and therefore not privy to all these messages, sent his OOC messages.

And speaking of Wansu's messages, while I agree that they were fairly offensive by Western standards, we have to remind ourselves that we have players from all over the world. I hear that, in some less civilized corners of the world, "fag" means "cigarette".  These incidents should be treated as teachable moments (for both the speaker and the listeners), not opportunities to whip ourselves into some righteous, politically correct fury.

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Magistrates Case Archive / Re: Player Harassment and Creation of a Toxic Atmosphere

« on: July 12, 2013, 07:46:20 PM »

The messages I was referring to happened in the flurry of messages right after Merlin founded Silnaria. They've gone off the queue now, so I can't prove anything.

I remember TH writing an OOC message on the subject and me replying with, "Exactly, game mechanics trumps RP, so (some more words here)." This was a few days before my other message that you were referring to.

That isn't true and you know it.

Could you please not imply that I am a liar? If you have proof that I'm lying, then please show it.

Do we archive the older messages somewhere?

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Helpline / Re: Ignoring someone on the forums?

« on: July 12, 2013, 09:03:43 AM »

Got it. Thank you.