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BM General Discussion / Re: Extended Family - The Renodins
« on: March 17, 2018, 06:47:49 PM »
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Helpline / Re: Is it normal for a new ruler to lose all titles/gov positions and duchies?
« on: December 07, 2017, 09:02:47 AM »But nonetheless, Crixus is out Max is in and the war is over.
Incorrect. Max is out as well.
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Helpline / Re: Is it normal for a new ruler to lose all titles/gov positions and duchies?
« on: December 07, 2017, 03:36:51 AM »
Chenier, you are right. I'm sorry. I totally misunderstood what you ment. Thanks for explaining to me that you ment what you ment, because that wasn't clear to me before. You totally know why Crixus held this many positions and I should defer to your greater expertise in that matter, rather than assuming I know anything about it due to actually playing in Swordfell for a year. And you are right that noone in that realm was doing anything about it or was about to do anything about it. The fact that the players were affected by it so much is on them and on them alone, it's their fault and it serves them right. Let them quit! Good riddance. Thanks Chenier for being so awesome.
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Helpline / Re: Is it normal for a new ruler to lose all titles/gov positions and duchies?
« on: December 06, 2017, 02:22:50 PM »Holy crap, people are allowed to hoard all those positions simultaneously in BM?! That's... That's insane. God forbid the person gets sick, goes on vacation, dies, quits, or - well - gets in trouble... The whole realm is screwed. How the hell is that even vaguely acceptable, whether IC or OOC?
Wait, weren't you having a character in Obia'Syela? You tell me how that's acceptable. For me OS is a very fun realm and I see JV as awesome player organizing lotsa fun for peeps.
OOC it's not technically breaking the rules unless it's actively undermining gameplay for other players in someway.
But IC there should be zero tolerance for it and personally I have very little respect for any realm where one person is hoarding power and the other players in it aren't working IC to overthrow them.
Ditto, don't you have character in Obia'Syela? Why do you have a character in realm you don't respect?
JV had 100% of high ranking positions in OS for quite some time. I'm not saying he did anything wrong, I'm not equalizing him with Domitius, I'm just pointing out hipocrisy.
I tried a year or so back to get rid of Crixus, and we were mostly successful. We had him down to just the duchy and lordship, then he started forcing any new members of the realm to swear to him and vote for him in elections or he would remove them from his duchy.
Your plan was no good and when new players turned to you to ask for guidance you responded with complete silence. They had no choice but to back Crixus. And btw - if not for the titan decision Crixus situation would be dealt with IC, like within the next two weeks or so.
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Helpline / Re: Is it normal for a new ruler to lose all titles/gov positions and duchies?
« on: December 06, 2017, 11:40:57 AM »
Samboji, you're right that it was a helpline question thread and it unnecessarily devolved into weird discussion about titans decision and toxic behavior. And I contributed to derailing this thread. I am truly sorry man. Battlemaster is kinda like writing a huge co-op story and that can be mighty fun. If anything I did took away your joy of it I sincerely apologize.
I hope you're ok, and see you man, take care.
I hope you're ok, and see you man, take care.
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East Island / Re: Greater Xavax Imperium
« on: December 06, 2017, 08:54:38 AM »
Will you change Sirion name to Xavax after rebellion? Btw, is that even possible? Name change after rebellion.
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Helpline / Re: Is it normal for a new ruler to lose all titles/gov positions and duchies?
« on: December 06, 2017, 08:50:51 AM »
Of course it makes zero sense. It's entire purpose was to make zero sense. It was the same logical structure as Chenier's sentence I quoted before, only with a different vocabulary. To point out how nonsensical it was even though it made apparent sense thanks to corelative vocabulary.
Nevermind. I rest my case. You're right, I'm wrong. I indeed was making serious grieviances, uhm... unknowingly, but now you set me straight and I see the error of my ways, so I won't be mad about it anymore. Because I totally was mad... apparently. But now I'm not! Thanks.
Nevermind. I rest my case. You're right, I'm wrong. I indeed was making serious grieviances, uhm... unknowingly, but now you set me straight and I see the error of my ways, so I won't be mad about it anymore. Because I totally was mad... apparently. But now I'm not! Thanks.
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BM General Discussion / Re: Annual Check-In
« on: December 05, 2017, 10:51:52 PM »Week or so later, the half-mute sumerian death-cultist Masalu in D'hara-DW.
Half-mute sumerian death-cultist? How come our chars on DW didn't met? We need a tinder on dwi for twisted bergsonian pseudo-naturalists. ( If sumerian death-cultists weren't deceived by the silly dualistic division on psyche and sarka they would essentially be twisted bergsonian pseudo-naturalists and mythology would still remain coherent under simpler philosophical frame. Pay no mind to "deceived by silly dualistic etc." it was tongue-in-cheek
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Helpline / Re: Is it normal for a new ruler to lose all titles/gov positions and duchies?
« on: December 05, 2017, 10:15:30 PM »
Since you asked Crypt, here's explanation what I ment:
Here he implies that that's what I meant - "scrapping the rules" etc. It's a serious overinterpretation at best, I never suggested anything of the sort. Later he implies that other players in Swordfell "back cheaters". But they didn't have a say in this, how come "not having a say in something" is backing it? Yes they could've protested and be banned or quit the realm, but half of them even didn't knew that it's going to happen untill it happened and most them saw precisely the same kind of secession not being as much as frowned upon by anyone. And honestly - have you ever seen players protesting against some a bit fishy but universally accepted behavior en masse by leaving the realm? I'm only a year old player but I'm certain you haven't. Not going to extreme lengths to protest something you disagree with is not "backing it".
Here he implies that I expect people to cheer bad players. Not cheering the fact that someone's quitting the game is equal to "cheering the bad players"?
Here he assumes he knows what progress I'm talking about, and based on his (completely wrong) assumption creates a (still incoherent even if it was based on a right assumption) arguement. He said "Crixus, the guy you supported" - which is a false statement. Actually, let me dress the entire logic structure of the last sentence into different vocabulary to highlight the nonsense and illustrate how appaling it is:
Your parents didn't raise you, Bill Gates, the guy you know in person, did. He birthed you, your parents' reaction was neither peaceful nor calm.
I'll pass over the fact that his entire response in it's construction accounts for my "hard feelings" regarding what I said about Titan's decision affecting my gameplay in a negative way. Those hard feelings by the time I wrote the comment he's responding to were "mild annoyance" at best, which I signalised with a wink at the end of that sentence.
And finally all he said was based on the assumption that the main reason for the ban was strategic secession, when it really wasn't. Strategic secession was just a pretext and micromanaging was the main reason for the punishment. I saw nearly exact same secessions, at least two, with noone being punished for them.
So voila.
tl;dr - "I'm surprised it is even possible to be this wrong." - if he ment it, or - "I'm not sure what are you trying to achieve here." - if he was just teasing me with ironic, intentional use of logical fallacies and bad eristics.
What are we gonna do, scrap all the rules because we don't want to upset cheaters and those who back cheaters?
Here he implies that that's what I meant - "scrapping the rules" etc. It's a serious overinterpretation at best, I never suggested anything of the sort. Later he implies that other players in Swordfell "back cheaters". But they didn't have a say in this, how come "not having a say in something" is backing it? Yes they could've protested and be banned or quit the realm, but half of them even didn't knew that it's going to happen untill it happened and most them saw precisely the same kind of secession not being as much as frowned upon by anyone. And honestly - have you ever seen players protesting against some a bit fishy but universally accepted behavior en masse by leaving the realm? I'm only a year old player but I'm certain you haven't. Not going to extreme lengths to protest something you disagree with is not "backing it".
I mean, sure, we could probably streamline the rules a lot, but what do you expect people to do, cheer the bad players?
Here he implies that I expect people to cheer bad players. Not cheering the fact that someone's quitting the game is equal to "cheering the bad players"?
The titans didn't invalidate your progress, Crixus, the guy you supported, did. He betrayed you, the titan's reaction was neither arbitrary nor unpredictable.
Here he assumes he knows what progress I'm talking about, and based on his (completely wrong) assumption creates a (still incoherent even if it was based on a right assumption) arguement. He said "Crixus, the guy you supported" - which is a false statement. Actually, let me dress the entire logic structure of the last sentence into different vocabulary to highlight the nonsense and illustrate how appaling it is:
Your parents didn't raise you, Bill Gates, the guy you know in person, did. He birthed you, your parents' reaction was neither peaceful nor calm.
I'll pass over the fact that his entire response in it's construction accounts for my "hard feelings" regarding what I said about Titan's decision affecting my gameplay in a negative way. Those hard feelings by the time I wrote the comment he's responding to were "mild annoyance" at best, which I signalised with a wink at the end of that sentence.
And finally all he said was based on the assumption that the main reason for the ban was strategic secession, when it really wasn't. Strategic secession was just a pretext and micromanaging was the main reason for the punishment. I saw nearly exact same secessions, at least two, with noone being punished for them.
So voila.
tl;dr - "I'm surprised it is even possible to be this wrong." - if he ment it, or - "I'm not sure what are you trying to achieve here." - if he was just teasing me with ironic, intentional use of logical fallacies and bad eristics.
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Helpline / Re: Is it normal for a new ruler to lose all titles/gov positions and duchies?
« on: December 05, 2017, 06:39:04 PM »
Chenier you have like waaay wrong view of the entire thing. I'm surprised it is even possible to be this wrong. I'm not sure what are you trying to achieve here.
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Beluaterra / Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
« on: December 05, 2017, 06:33:09 PM »
I think Gabanus ment that he can't do anything in the Inquisition guild. Inquisition guild is pretty much dead atm and for no reason as there's[b ] huge[/b] need for inquisitors to organize themselves.
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Beluaterra / Re: Sacred Obia'Syela
« on: December 05, 2017, 01:10:59 AM »
You're not some measly military, you're JeVondair! Have some standards damnit!
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BM General Discussion / Re: Annual Check-In
« on: December 04, 2017, 03:08:01 PM »
You definitely should! Obia'Syela is very fun for someone who likes RP-oriented way of playing battlemaster. RP-wise it's probably the best realm I've been to.
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Helpline / Re: Is it normal for a new ruler to lose all titles/gov positions and duchies?
« on: December 04, 2017, 10:29:53 AM »
Nah, I don't have any issue with how matters are IC. I understand that it's natural for people to extrapolate their (IC) hatred for Crixus to entire Swordfell. And having overwhelmingly superior powers against me and my realm... honestly I enjoy the "hard-mode". Makes the eventual victory that much more tasty. And the character I play there thrives in navigating impossible situations. So honestly IC on dwi is almost perfect if you don't count the titan decision practically undoing last ten months of my gameplay there even though I never broke any rules...
The only thing that aches me is that enmity seeps through to the OOC. It's the first time I've noticed it too, cause in all the other IC conflicts I partook in (weren't that many - year old guy here) OOC between the sides was entirely jovial, with occasional friendly banter here and there. But then again perhaps I'm naming an elephant in the room now because I'm just a green "new guy", perhaps that's the standard in battlemaster I was oblivious too for all this time. I don't know. I know that when someone carries the grudge for in-game stuff it puts me off, and I imagine it's one of the things that would put off most of the people.
The only thing that aches me is that enmity seeps through to the OOC. It's the first time I've noticed it too, cause in all the other IC conflicts I partook in (weren't that many - year old guy here) OOC between the sides was entirely jovial, with occasional friendly banter here and there. But then again perhaps I'm naming an elephant in the room now because I'm just a green "new guy", perhaps that's the standard in battlemaster I was oblivious too for all this time. I don't know. I know that when someone carries the grudge for in-game stuff it puts me off, and I imagine it's one of the things that would put off most of the people.
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BM General Discussion / Re: Annual Check-In
« on: December 04, 2017, 08:52:02 AM »
And I get that that's how it goes IC. I have no issue with that. But bringing it OOC? Isn't one of the most important rules of battlemaster to play it as you would among friends? Would you lie OOC to a friend in order to get in-game advantage? I wouldn't. I don't speak OOC about Astrum because I know that my knowledge is likely incomplete and my view biased.