Ambassador title hidden for rulers

[Chenier]

It's kinda pointless to mention that a ruler is also an ambassador.

"Guillaume Chénier
Ruler of Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na, Duke of Iato, Ambassador of Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na"

I'm pompous, but that *that* pompous. ;)

At worse, have it put as "Ruler and Ambassador of".

[Fleugs]

Being ruler and ambassador kinda beats the point of "ambassador". I mean, an ambassador represents his ruler. A ruler represents himself. So just don't be an ambassador, because... well, it's kinda ridiculous to represent yourself.

[Bedwyr]

Yes, but diplomat is a good choice for a Ruler because it allows them the full array of treaty actions, not to mention the region-convincing actions if you're doing region maintenance.  And if you're a diplomat Ruler, you really should make yourself an Ambassador so your diplo work is more effective.

[Fleugs]

Isn't the entire point needing an ambassador to make treaties, i.e. the King appointing someone to do so for him (and thus enabling yet another player to have a position)? I understand that for efficiency it's a good thing, but I find it poor roleplay.

[Bedwyr]

I usually do appoint other Ambassadors for certain negotiations.  But not having the ability to look at the treaties myself makes me twitchy, and the Orating abilities mesh nicely with the character.

[Chenier]

That's beside the point.

Doubling the title in the signature is useless.

[Tom]

Is there a reason why simple diplomat isn't enough and it has to be ambassador?

[Bedwyr]

Diplomatic actions (raising/lowering loyalty/sympathy) are more effective if you are an Ambassador.  Though why being an Ambassador helps more than being King does I don't know (well, I do, because no one wanted to code for that case, but IC I don't know).

[Anaris]

Diplomatic actions (raising/lowering loyalty/sympathy) are more effective if you are an Ambassador.  Though why being an Ambassador helps more than being King does I don't know (well, I do, because no one wanted to code for that case, but IC I don't know).

Not so much "didn't want to" as "didn't think of."

Being Ruler should, indeed, lend at least as much weight to your diplomatic actions as being Ambassador.

[Bedwyr]

(curses as he once again fails to keep Tim working on estates)

:D

Still, that would be a nice change.  Having Ruler lend more weight than Ambassador would make a lot of IC sense, and would get rid of all those superfluous titles in one fell swoop.

[Chenier]

Indeed.

As long as I keep my diplomat actions at ambassador efficiency (or better), without the ridiculously long signature, I'll be a happy man.

[Fleugs]

I also agree with Delvin.