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Threats of reprimand due to playing speed
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Summary:Threats of reprimand due to playing speedViolation:Playing at your own speed, timing and activity levelWorld:DwilightComplainer:James MarshallAbout:Balewin
Full Complaint Text:
The following is an extract of a letter sent today:
"...Failure to regularly provide a report on a daily basis will also be considered dereliction of duty and may result in fines..."
Which is going against a player's right to play at their own speed.
(As no-one has started a 'proper' case yet, I thought that I would (rather than send the message to the player directly) as it gives the chance for proper discussion and action.)
Shizzle:
I've seen similar pleas before. As I recall it, it is okay to fine characters for faillure of in-game duties.
Also, the full paragraph you refer to was:
--- Quote ---"Let me be clear that I'm not going to tolerate any lack of discipline. I will make sure that fines are levied on any noble that actively hampers our efforts in Maraba. There will be no public hangings or raids without express orders. Failure to regularly provide a report on a daily basis will also be considered dereliction of duty and may result in fines, but it will take a lot of time for that to happen."
--- End quote ---
Besides, it's not because he threatens to fine you that you cannot play at your own speed. You could just pay the fine and play as slowly as you want, or you could come up with some sort of IC excuse. I believe anything will do. Hell, two OOC words saying 'not possible' would probably be enough to earn mercy :)
PS: I'll make it clear that I see this in no way as an extension of Skyndarbau and Tarajist's in-game quarrel. This is my personal opinion, not Skyndarbau's.
Also, I think it's good you took this here. Anything is better than the 100 letter OOC flaming I've seen in Thalmarkin a few weeks ago :P
Fleugs:
--- Quote from: Shizzle on August 17, 2011, 07:33:12 PM ---Besides, it's not because he threatens to fine you that you cannot play at your own speed. You could just pay the fine and play as slowly as you want, or you could come up with some sort of IC excuse. I believe anything will do. Hell, two OOC words saying 'not possible' would probably be enough to earn mercy :)
--- End quote ---
I must disagree with the "you could just pay the fine". A judge (assuming it's a judge who wrote this), should always make sure that there are no OOC-reasons as to why a character did not live up to its duties. When I used to be judge I often took the stance of "I'll warn him now and wait two weeks" or "wait until I see him do something". Catching them on not-reading your warning is a valid reason to fine someone because they are ignoring the judge... which is of course not acceptable ingame. Nevertheless when there is a suspicion of lesser activity by the player, caution is advised. You don't want to fine someone just because he didn't log in: I do believe that is a violation of the inalienable rights. In my opinion an IC-reason should not even be given if the player does not feel like it; a simple OOC-message saying "No can do" should be more than enough. But IC-reasons make the game more interesting, of course.
On another note I believe that the entire letter/parapgraph should have been given at the first place. It's all about context, and Shizzle's copypasta made it clear that the judge would most likely not jump to hasty conclusions when someone fails to answer him after day one. I think he was trying to make clear in an IC fashion that he would take OOC-reasons into account, as he should. It's nice to see a case here though; finally this system can be put to test.
Also, what is "a report"?
Shizzle:
I agree with everything you say, Fleugs. That's a first :)
I assume a report would be a message saying "your men work and toil for 7 hours, and production in the region has gone up 5% to 74%."
And also, the person sending the letter was a Marshal, not a Judge. Hell, I'll just provide the full letter.
--- Quote ---Letter from Balewin Duckmane (4 hours, 20 minutes ago)
Message sent to all members of the Fissoa Privateers (14 recipients)
Privateers,
We've been gracious enough to give the people of Maraba three opportunities to accept our governance willingly, but they have been stubborn to say the least. Therefore, I am enacting martial law in the region until they learn to behave themselves better.
Lord Periurium will be initiating a takeover in Maraba after sunset. Once that is successful, we will be keeping 1500cs worth of troops in Maraba at all times as a police force. This may seem a high number, but if the Verminators aren't able to keep the rogues at bay we need to have enough troops to disperse them quickly.
Those stationed in Maraba are expected to perform police work. I want a 24 hours presence in the region so that there are no opportunities for insurgency. Lord Ayrl will hold court regularly to judge those rebels that we round up. You must report to me daily on how many hours you spent policing and when half your equipment is damaged.
Those not stationed in Maraba will be on standby in Mangai. The Verminators report a strong risk of invasion from the Palm Sea and we must be prepared.
Let me be clear that I'm not going to tolerate any lack of discipline. I will make sure that fines are levied on any noble that actively hampers our efforts in Maraba. There will be no public hangings or raids without express orders. Failure to regularly provide a report on a daily basis will also be considered dereliction of duty and may result in fines, but it will take a lot of time for that to happen.
I will be giving specific orders for each troop leader soon. If you will not be able to complete the assigned task, inform me privately as soon as possible.
If you have any questions or concerns with this plan, voice them now.
Balewin Duckmane
Viscount of Kamade, Marshal of the Fissoa Privateers
--- End quote ---
Chenier:
The issue is not clear-cut, imo, because it is a threat that *another* *might* do something, and not an act on itself.
They may be very lenient on how many turns can be missed, and there's no way to know.
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