Cathay is no longer fond of the Elders really also due to the last war (which the Order power house (kindara zonasa) lost.) So I wonder how much strength the Order truly holds beyond the south.
I'm not aware that Cathay has any opposition to the Elders outside of having some Sartanian nobles who obviously don't want the Elders to spread in Cathay. But the war didn't impact them - none of the regions we took had temples to the Elders. Haul had peasants who worshiped them but no temples.
The Church of Humanity 'lost' in that they lost three regions with temples, but the temples are staying, so it's more of a draw.
