Sanguis Astroism

[Ironsides]

What's wrong with dueling over insults? I don't get the issue here. Then again, like the incident in the University, I've come late to this discussion....

[Dante Silverfire]

I've many times thought a Seminary of sorts would be a neat thing for SA.

Does SA really need more propaganda/indoctrination?

[Indirik]

Perhaps if the University truly lacks in living up to everything it really could be (and I think it has in some ways, the wiki stuff and essays, etc are pretty neat) it is time that some competing Universities were founded?

If only there were 96 hours in a day... I already have my finger in more pies than I can handle.

[Indirik]

Does SA really need more propaganda/indoctrination?

Yes.

[Dante Silverfire]

Yes.

Well as long as we're clear.

[De-Legro]

Not everyone loves SA, thus yes, SA needs more propaganda, or more successful propaganda, or some cruise missiles/unmanned drones.

[Dante Silverfire]

Not everyone loves SA, thus yes, SA needs more propaganda, or more successful propaganda, or some cruise missiles/unmanned drones.

"So Sayeth we all"

"So Sayeth we all," the congregation repeats...

[JPierreD]

As if the Holy Prophet of Sanguis Astroism could debate theology as an equal with, oh, anyone. The whole tone and content of Moritz's was actually a rather clever insult.

Not for an Astroist, but for non-Astroists his word has little spiritual authority.

[egamma]

Not for an Astroist, but for non-Astroists his word has little spiritual authority.

Think of him like the Pope. Even if you're Mormon or Jewish or (insert non-Catholic here), you gotta give the leader of a billion people the respect he's due.

[Dante Silverfire]

Think of him like the Pope. Even if you're Mormon or Jewish or (insert non-Catholic here), you gotta give the leader of a billion people the respect he's due.

Respect, and deference to his ideas are two vastly different things.

[egamma]

Respect, and deference to his ideas are two vastly different things.

Calling the Pope a "student" wouldn't go over very well.

[JPierreD]

Calling the Pope a "student" wouldn't go over very well.

Don't know about the context in the DU, nor I was arguing about his political power. It would be foolish to make enemies with such a powerful man, unless you really profited from such. The point I was making is that he can talk about theology with superiority to any Astroist, but the same does not applies to non-astroists. The Pope cannot hope to have his word followed with more reverence by a Jew than any random Rabbi. The Jew might possibly consider him an enlightened person, he could fear his power, but ultimately he thinks the Pope is wrong and disagrees on at least a few things.

So, yes, the Prophet of Sanguis Astroism could discuss theology in the same level of many people. Specially if it was abstract non-SA specific theology. Which I don't know if it is the case, of course, but assume it since it's the DU and not the Church of SA.

[Glaumring the Fox]

Are you guys forgetting that Moritz is also a prophet of his own religion?

[Zakilevo]

Are you guys forgetting that Moritz is also a prophet of his own religion?

Perfect. We can shove a stick up in his... and show him who is the real prophet.

[De-Legro]

You all miss the point. In character the prophet of the continents largest, most powerful religion is likely going to have a massive reason to believe they have superior theological knowledge. Would people from other religions agree? Probably not but by the same token he, and the religion he heads aren't going to think that anyone can argue theology on a equal footing, which was the point of the original post. To call such a figure a mere "student" in term of theology is a massive insult to the Prophet and the religion in general. This isn't the modern age remember, it is unlikely that most religions consider others to have any validity, or respect the knowledge of their priests.

Are you guys forgetting that Moritz is also a prophet of his own religion?

Yup the smalles religion on the island by all metrics, fewest temples, fewest noble followers, fewest peasant followers. Chances are it barely even registers on the radar of greater SA.