Sanguis Astroism

[Anaris]

"We believe" is not for explaining to other people, but as a confession of joining a faith– self-identification.

Right; it's not a description, it's an affirmation.

[Indirik]

That doesn't mean I have to like it. 

[BardicNerd]

"We believe" is not for explaining to other people, but as a confession of joining a faith– self-identification. As noted, it stems, in liturgical usage, from the Christian creedal tradition, and then takes another use in the shahadah of Islam.

Exactly.  It is the seeing 'we believe' as a weak statement saying 'we think is right' that is the modern interpretation -- in this context, is is a strong affirmation, saying 'belief in this is what makes someone a member of SA.'

'Creed,' translates basically as 'belief' from what I understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creed

[JPierreD]

This is the Pyrist creed:

I believe in the holy flames, which purify living and dead.
I honor my ancestors, who give me courage and strength.
I respect the spirits, who influence tides and seasons.
I worship the Gods, who rule heaven and earth.
I renounce the impurity, which corrupts mind and body.
I reject the underlords, who consume flesh and soul.

Which is the Astroist?

[Indirik]

It's on the wiki, under the Charter, which is linked from the Sanguis Astroism page.

We believe that the Divine Bloodstars, acting through our blood, influence everything that we do.
We believe that the Maddening Star influences our raw emotions and impulses.
We believe that the Auspicious Star influences our reason and capacity for logical thought.
We believe that the Austere Star influences our soul and capacity for serenity.
We believe that above all else, men should seek to reach a state of Harmony with the influence of all three Stars, so that we may act with Wisdom according to our knowledge.
We believe that to succeed at this is to attain Enlightenment, as the First Prophet Mathurin did.
We hold the spiritual writings of the First Prophet Mathurin to come from the greatest understanding of the Stars we have yet achieved. All should study them so we can better understand and study the Stars themselves.
We believe that everyone should know and believe this creed to be true. We do not shun those who seek honest enlightenment, and we seek always to spread our knowledge of the Truth to the unenlightened.
All this we believe.

[Penchant]

That doesn't mean I have to like it. 

Yeah, the more I read it, the less I like it. It just feels too much like I am telling my friend about SA and less like a creed. It should all be one liners without  explanations.

[Solari]

Mathurin is so enlightened he hasn't spoken in years.

[Vellos]

Has nobody read the Nicene Creed?

[vonGenf]

Has nobody read the Nicene Creed?

Eh. We still had religion (read catholicism) classes in high school when I went there. We had to learn and recite it. At least they were no points for the attitude you recited it with.

[Anaris]

Has nobody read the Nicene Creed?

I can recite it from heart in English, and with some minor prompting, at least most of it in Latin.

But then, I think you were probably referring to the people who don't like the existing SA creed

[Vellos]

I can recite it from heart in English, and with some minor prompting, at least most of it in Latin.

But then, I think you were probably referring to the people who don't like the existing SA creed

1. Impressive.

2. Yeah, I was.

[Anaris]

1. Impressive.

Well, the English is from having said it nearly every week for the first 22 years of my life (y'know, after I was old enough to say it), and intermittently since.

The Latin is from having sung Latin masses in the local college's Oratorio society several times.

[Indirik]

Has nobody read the Nicene Creed?

I read it from the link that was supplied. Or at least parts of it.

I still don't like it.

[Solari]

Well, this Magistratum just took an interesting turn...

[Indirik]

Mrh?