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vonGenf

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Re: Paid curtier work
« Reply #30: November 30, 2011, 02:49:42 PM »
Priests used to, for the longest time, be unable to receive an oath. How's that for limiting their tax share? ;)

I didn't play a priest then. If priests are nobles, then they are in the feudal system. If you kick them out, then they're commoners.
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« Reply #31: November 30, 2011, 02:56:10 PM »
I didn't play a priest then. If priests are nobles, then they are in the feudal system. If you kick them out, then they're commoners.

Not really. Remember the whole "three classes" stuff? Nobles, the clergy, and the serfs? The church was apart of the feudal hierarchy because they responded to god, and so forth, hence why church properties were not taxed.

I still prefer priests being in the feudal system, though, it's more fun.
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Re: Paid curtier work
« Reply #32: November 30, 2011, 03:09:05 PM »
Caste system notwithstanding, ordained clergymen could lead armies. They could own regions and tax them. They could fight wars. I think I remember that they couldn't swear actual oaths, but they generally acted as if they did.

The model for a BM priest is not the parish priest in the boondocks. It's the Cardinal of Richelieu or any Borgia.
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Re: Paid curtier work
« Reply #33: November 30, 2011, 06:26:50 PM »
OK, I guess the points I want to make are more general.

The first is that you can't pigeonhole player actions. I play an infiltrator who carries large units. Why? Because I can, and it's none of your business; I also played a unitless warrior at some point.

The second is that what you think other people need as gold is only mildly related to what they should receive. If you, as a Lord, want to give smaller tax share to courtiers, that's fine, but don't expect to have swarm of courtiers come and take care of your region afterwards. Same goes for priests and infils. If you want one as a knight, give him a good enough share that he will accept to do your bidding, and that's it.

That being said, I don't actually think that having "courtier bounty pots" is such a great idea. I just disagree with your argument that "courtier don't need gold because they don't need troops". This thinking leads to other idea, such as limiting tax share for priests, that I think goes against the spirit of the game.

Well, Courtiers are limited in their recruit so you can't actually have large units.

I understand your other point but I didn't imply any restriction nor limitation. I just think that the idea of bounty pots do not fill any gap in the game, that's all.

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« Reply #34: November 30, 2011, 06:37:07 PM »
I just think that the idea of bounty pots do not fill any gap in the game, that's all.

I agree with that.
After all it's a roleplaying game.