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Started by Shenron, December 18, 2011, 10:05:35 PM

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Indirik

That is true, James. I'm just trying to explain why there are so few, or no, priests running around trying to convert nobles.
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Perth

Quote from: Indirik on December 19, 2011, 04:18:43 PM
That is ... hard.

Actually, no it's not "hard". It's "Bloody well impossible".

I've tried traveling around with a priest trying to gain noble converts. Very, very, very few people respond. Those that do respond, are not interested. If they don't already have a religion, then they aren't interested in joining one.


One very quickly tires of writing lengthy, persuasive letters about the benefits of joining your religion only to be met with mostly silence or, at best, disdain.

"A tale is but half told when only one person tells it." - The Saga of Grettir the Strong
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Glaumring the Fox

There needs to be an ingame benefit to being in a religion that has a point system or percentage or something, because people love points and stuff...

We live lives in beautiful lies...

Vellos

Quote from: Indirik on December 19, 2011, 04:18:43 PM
That is ... hard.

Actually, no it's not "hard". It's "Bloody well impossible".

I've tried traveling around with a priest trying to gain noble converts. Very, very, very few people respond. Those that do respond, are not interested. If they don't already have a religion, then they aren't interested in joining one.

Very much agreed.

I only keep a priest character for the easier movement. :P
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

Bedwyr

Quote from: Vellos on December 20, 2011, 02:28:41 AM
Very much agreed.

I only keep a priest character for the easier movement. :P

I'm giving it a shot right now.  I've actually gotten a response from every noble I've written to so far (half a dozen), with a few potential converts.  I think having the Priest be a King helps.
"You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in ruttin' command here!"

De-Legro

Quote from: Bedwyr on December 20, 2011, 06:40:54 AM
I'm giving it a shot right now.  I've actually gotten a response from every noble I've written to so far (half a dozen), with a few potential converts.  I think having the Priest be a King helps.

Being the prophet might have something to do with it as well.
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Bedwyr

Quote from: De-Legro on December 20, 2011, 06:50:56 AM
Being the prophet might have something to do with it as well.

Prophet, King, regionally famous, family name opens doors, religion appeals to a fair number, there's a bit of a religious vacuum, and the Ruler of the realm is in favour of it.  Lots of factors going toward success.  I'll be interested to see how his efforts in Madina, Aurvandil, the the 'Moot realms go.
"You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in ruttin' command here!"

Vellos

Quote from: Bedwyr on December 20, 2011, 06:40:54 AM
I think having the Priest be a King helps.

Yes, I'm quite sure it does.
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

De-Legro

Another noble conversion to tMP :) Either Koli has unique skills in this regard, or people have discounted the possiblity too easily.
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egamma

Quote from: De-Legro on December 22, 2011, 02:02:49 AM
Another noble conversion to tMP :) Either Koli has unique skills in this regard, or people have discounted the possiblity too easily.

Probably easier on Dwilight.

Vellos

Quote from: De-Legro on December 22, 2011, 02:02:49 AM
Either Koli has unique skills in this regard

Or he is also the King.

Or, what, he's wandering around the Lurias and Fissoa right now, right? Southeastern Dwilight has no local dominant faith akin to SA, VE, or Triunism. I expect Koli may find success in Barca too, but probably not in Terran or D'Hara.
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

De-Legro

Quote from: Vellos on December 22, 2011, 03:41:39 AM
Or he is also the King.

Or, what, he's wandering around the Lurias and Fissoa right now, right? Southeastern Dwilight has no local dominant faith akin to SA, VE, or Triunism. I expect Koli may find success in Barca too, but probably not in Terran or D'Hara.

You are all thinking too small. Zuma are the real prize to convert.
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Vellos

Quote from: De-Legro on December 22, 2011, 03:53:23 AM
You are all thinking too small. Zuma are the real prize to convert.

Convert... to tMP?

That seems..... improbable.
"A neutral humanism is either a pedantic artifice or a prologue to the inhuman." - George Steiner

Indirik

Yeah, everyone knows they are already Astroists. :P
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

De-Legro

Quote from: Vellos on December 22, 2011, 04:22:24 AM
Convert... to tMP?

That seems..... improbable.

Not if we adopt the tried and tested means of mass conversion, change the religion enough to be palatable to the new converts. Just look at all the pagan baggage Christianity took on board.
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