The Zuma

[Anaris]

You've obviously never met Screamer.... *shudders*

He screams. It's bad for humans to be around when he does.

That doesn't make him evil.

Call me when they start trying to take over the world, or send their Nine Riders out to seize by force some kind of ultimate power artifact held by commoners in Morek.

[Anaris]

Barca is the Shire. XD

Er...the Shire would have to be somewhere pastoral, far away from the Zuma.

Morek fits the bill.

Barca is Ithilien.

[Kwanstein]

Were the orcs really evil though? They didn't seem too smart -- like wild beasts. Maybe they were carnivorous, like lions, and needed to eat people for food. And their 'cruelness' could be owed to environmental conditioning. Heck, even Sauron didn't have a choice in his actions! He was intentionally planned by Eru to bring discord to the song of existence, or some such metaphor. So, if anything, Eru is the evil one: he created an existence in which suffering not only existed but was necessary for his own pet scheme.

[Anaris]

Were the orcs really evil though? They didn't seem too smart -- like wild beasts. Maybe they were carnivorous, like lions, and needed to eat people for food. And their 'cruelness' could be owed to environmental conditioning.

They were specifically created (by Melkor/Morgoth, by twisting captured elves) to be beings of cruelty, violence, and evil. Whether or not it was their fault, they were evil beings.

Heck, even Sauron didn't have a choice in his actions! He was intentionally planned by Eru to bring discord to the song of existence, or some such metaphor. So, if anything, Eru is the evil one: he created an existence in which suffering not only existed but was necessary for his own pet scheme.

That's a debate about free will vs divine determinism; by that logic, there can be no "evil", only "stuff God planned".

Sauron was evil. He chose evil. Same as his old master Morgoth. What Eru may or may not have planned is, literally, outside the scope of Middle-Earth.

[Stabbity]

D'hara isn't the elves, they're clearly the dwarves. Far more content to stay at home counting their gold pieces, and are on occasion ravaged by their bigger, badder neighbors, the Orcs (Luria). Did I mention D'haran women sport beards?

[Chenier]

Did I mention D'haran women sport beards?

That must be why the Lurians like Jonsu so much...

[Stabbity]

That must be why the Lurians like Jonsu so much...

She invented nair.

[Chenier]

I just found a picture of Jonsu

[Stabbity]

I just found a picture of Jonsu

She does have red hair...

[Glaumring the Fox]

Thats brilliant...  ;D

[Stabbity]

Meanwhile in D'hara...

[Penchant]

Meanwhile in D'hara...

We took a region a few days ago and are going out on another campaign so I disagree with that sentiment.

[JeVondair]

So much hate for D'Hara! No one made Jonsu defect to the realm that stabbed us in the back.

[Stabbity]

Not if you talk to Jonsu. :P She is honestly one of my favorite characters thus far.

Besides, Luria made me a far better offer than D'hara ever could.

[Penchant]

So much hate for D'Hara! No one made Jonsu defect to the realm that stabbed us in the back.

No one made her, but it they made it quite tempting. Getting protested out of office due to corruption usually means you ain't getting power for a long, long time which means that realm is no longer good, nor any moot realm.