Colony Takeover on Dwilight?

[egamma]

Not for those that signed the treaty.

really? It's a 1000 miles from Morek to Solaria, so let's say 500 miles. Presumably Solaria is closer. Still a long walk.

[Penchant]

Not only is it far away, the roads are so terrible it takes me several days to go from Sallowwild to Desert of Silhouettes and that is one of the shorter travel times when you are in the desert, though it is only regions bordering the desert I have seen travel times for.

[De-Legro]

Morek marched down to Solaria recently to assist with rogues. Given that BR is only two regions away from the northern most Solarian region, which is also the fastest route through the Alley of Swords it is really not a huge issue. Travel from Remton to Enlod for the Arcaean war would take more turns.

[Peri]

Morek marched down to Solaria recently to assist with rogues.

And be assured we won't do it again that often. It's painful.

[Indirik]

Still a long walk.

Against a fledgling colony, it would probably only take one trip. Kill off some soldiers, do a little looting, and drive the region rogue, then go home.

[De-Legro]

Against a fledgling colony, it would probably only take one trip. Kill off some soldiers, do a little looting, and drive the region rogue, then go home.

Especially with the lack of resources that location would provide.

[egamma]

Especially with the lack of resources that location would provide.

...or people keep saying that to keep others from investigating further. There's probably another group of Zuma hiding out there that nobody knows about. 

[De-Legro]

...or people keep saying that to keep others from investigating further. There's probably another group of Zuma hiding out there that nobody knows about. 

Not really, Solaria have already remapped the area. It did get a decent gold boost, would still be a rather poor realm but no where near the extreme it was before the redistribution. You might even be able to hold the area as a realm now without a sponsor realm constantly handing you gold.

[Solari]

There's something about that area that makes people lose their capacity for rational thought.  I cannot stress enough how useless Balance's Retreat is.  You'd have to import food for the entire area: the Retreat, the mountains, all of it.  There isn't enough gold to build a realm or maintain an army.  I routinely beat back cries from other players in Solaria to annex the area.  Because it's so useless, it's actually much more useful as a kind of perpetual monster preserve, where realms can go hunting and advies can always have work.  IC, that's exactly what it is: the hunting range of House Solari, shared with his good friend Busto.

[De-Legro]

I cannot stress how useless Balance's Retreat is.  You'd have to import food for the entire area: the Retreat, the mountains, all of it.  There isn't enough gold to build a realm or maintain an army.  Because it's so useless, it's actually much more useful as a kind of perpetual monster preserve, where realms can go hunting and advies can always have work.  IC, that's exactly what it is: the hunting range of House Solari, shared with his good friend Busto.

Well there is that too, but maybe someone could set up a hunting lodge in BR

[Solari]

Well there is that too, but maybe someone could set up a hunting lodge in BR

See?  And De-Legro should know better.

[Dante Silverfire]

See?  And De-Legro should know better.

But just think how much fun it would be if it was REALLY the hunting lodge of house Solari, because Brom puts up a realm there....

Granted, I think it'd be more fun if he didn't just destroy it but decided to work with it there. (I guess I'm dreaming though...because that's never going to happen)

[Solari]

But just think how much fun it would be if it was REALLY the hunting lodge of house Solari, because Brom puts up a realm there....

Granted, I think it'd be more fun if he didn't just destroy it but decided to work with it there. (I guess I'm dreaming though...because that's never going to happen)

Show me how you plan to keep a realm afloat that will consume 300% of the food it produces and generate maybe 600 gold—total—per week, and I'll be happy to listen!

[egamma]

Show me how you plan to keep a realm afloat that will consume 300% of the food it produces and generate maybe 600 gold—total—per week, and I'll be happy to listen!

You might recall that Tom deposited 500 bushels in every rogue region. Also ,that there's hundreds of gold in taxes waiting for first takeover.

Long term? Maybe not. But short term, the whole region is an excellent looting target.

[De-Legro]

You might recall that Tom deposited 500 bushels in every rogue region. Also ,that there's hundreds of gold in taxes waiting for first takeover.

Long term? Maybe not. But short term, the whole region is an excellent looting target.

And that impacts on establishing a realm how? I surely don't need a colony in Balance Retreat to loot the local regions, assuming that Morek, Pian and Solaria haven't already been doing so. You generally need to send a good force in to loot mind you, those monsters spawns in the area can be annoying.

The end result is still the same in the end the realm can't feed itself and has very little income to cover military and food imports.