The Crusade against SA

[Anaris]

This kinda thing happens all the time on all the continents and I believe I've seen far too much information to not go to war. We all saw the first Brotherhood of Astrocracies which clearly allied against the "pagans" aka the free realms.

Except that the intent was never anything of the kind. In fact, it was more or less to have SA band together to defend against a direct threat to the faith—which is exactly what you have given them.

This is unbiased OOC knowledge, by the way.

Madina is a "free-realm" and I love how everyone underestimates them.

Yeeeaaahhh....I don't think it's so much underestimating as seeing exactly how pathetic they've become.  They can't hold onto their own regions, and they're going to send an army what, a week and a half's travel to the north?

If Madina even manages to fight in any important battles, I'll be surprised.

[Geronus]

Yes, it should be interesting alright, and if we do come out with the upper hand, I suppose we'll have no choice but to conquer half the world. I mean, half the world did just go to war with us... 

I would chalk up their need to use fabricated justifications to the fact that Rowan was very careful to avoid giving them any that weren't fabricated. As Indirik said, Astrum bent over backward to reassure Caerwyn when Baal started making trouble over the war with Averoth. We did everything they asked, basically. Caerwyn really went darkside on this one. I mean, a month ago they were offering troops to help us fight monsters. If they were planning this the whole time, it was a pretty cold move.

[DoctorHarte]

We had reason to believe that Astrum was planning something colder, as shown in Baal's letter. . Perhaps it was planted but someone did a good job. As I replied to you in the other topic, you can't blame everyone in Caerwyn.. and some of had a good IC reason anyways.

[Zakilevo]

Durn it. I have to deal with Caerywn directly. I feel pressured already . One thing cool about Dwilight is the insane travel time. It will play a huge role in this war. Do not underestimate equipment damage.

[songqu88@gmail.com]

Ha, travel times still that bad? They were even reduced a long time ago.

Then again, it takes me about 20+ hours to travel anywhere even when it's not winter. Winter travel can go up to 60 hours on extremely bad roads. !!!

Still, as long as you have allies to provide for some repairs, you've got convenient checkpoints. I wonder if that means Madina will try to sail up.

[Telrunya]

Not sure how happy D'Hara will be with that.

[Geronus]

I don't see what choice they have. Marching north from Candiels would take weeks, even in the Summer:

Taking this route, it would take you 236 hours, or 34 turns, to cover the total distance of 2382 miles, assuming no travel delays.



And that's going THROUGH Paisly and Port Raviel to do it, though granted I am presently north of Eidulb. Good luck Madina!

As for planted information, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that someone is doing that. There are many people out there who hate SA. I know for a fact that an ex-priest of SA emigrated to Caerwyn after he was deported from LE as a consequence of his failed rebellion there, and I'm certain he's doing everything he can to get revenge on SA. There may members of the OOC clan that ran Thulsoma in various realms spreading lies and misinformation as well. I hear the same lies being repeated often by our enemies, so I am willing to bet that someone out there is running a concerted campaign.

[songqu88@gmail.com]

I find it interesting that the one and only heretic of SA has had no ill-intent against the religion all through this. I am still the only heretic, right? Checking the wiki, only Allison went through some Magistratum thing but then she like bent backwards to be readmitted or something. So...Garret can still claim "Heretic" as a title? Not that I care for titles on Dwilight.

[Indirik]

Sure. We'll let you keep the heretic title. 

[songqu88@gmail.com]

Awesome. It reminds me of the Arbiter from Halo, but human, and in a fantasy setting. But I am rather amazed that no one else has managed to draw enough controversy and/or dislike to become pronounced a heretic. Ah well, guess it really is up to me to be the sorta-lone dude.  Watching the sun rise and fall over Dwilight...Wistful.

[Mystic]

SA has too much power - its about time they crumble or at least be damaged. With Astrum by herself and against a two front war, there are definitely some drastic changes to be made to Dwilights map. Averoth has some 42 nobles, they will expand fast if left alone, which may just happen with Caerwyn invading from the south and causing trouble.

[Zakilevo]

Well to be honest, if SA is left alone, it will cover the entire north. However, if they win this war, it might spread southward. I never seen Caerwyn in action so I cannot really judge how strong it is. Hope it can provide some challenges.

[Glaumring the Fox]

Hey I was proclaimed heretic before and even had a trial and everything....Oh Artemesia we are quite the pair.

[DoctorHarte]

Bet you didn't get exiled before you got banned 

[songqu88@gmail.com]

Eh, I never got exiled. I got banned losing a rebellion against a multi-cheater. I believe that was my one and only rebellion.