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Appointing a Lord

Started by Shizzle, March 15, 2012, 07:38:22 PM

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Shizzle

Being the Ruler of Fissoa, I am currently unable to have my character appoint a Lord to the region of Kamade.

I know this would normally fall to the Duke, but the Duke and the Lord of Kamade were the same person until both titles were lost because of imprisonment.

Extra: Kamade is not the 'capital' of the Duchy, so perhaps there's a mixup?

Anaris

Quote from: Shizzle on March 15, 2012, 07:38:22 PM
Being the Ruler of Fissoa, I am currently unable to have my character appoint a Lord to the region of Kamade.

I know this would normally fall to the Duke, but the Duke and the Lord of Kamade were the same person until both titles were lost because of imprisonment.

So you need to appoint a Duke.

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Extra: Kamade is not the 'capital' of the Duchy, so perhaps there's a mixup?

No such thing. Duchies are decentralized. They have no specific "capital" region.
Timothy Collett

"The only thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart." "You are what you do.  Choose again, and change." "One of these days, someone's gonna plug you, and you're going to die saying, 'What did I say? What did I say?'"  ~ Miles Naismith Vorkosigan

Shizzle

Quote from: Anaris on March 15, 2012, 07:41:16 PM
So you need to appoint a Duke.

He's not in the list of people I can appoint. Why? Only Lords of the Duchy of Drowenton seem to be available.

QuoteNo such thing. Duchies are decentralized. They have no specific "capital" region.

"You can also create new duchies at will. A new duchy needs to have a somewhat strong base, meaning it needs to have at least one region and that region needs to be a city, stronghold or a townsland."

Somewhat Strong Base and Capital are interchangeable for me, at least if I use quotation marks :)

Anaris

Quote from: Shizzle on March 15, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
He's not in the list of people I can appoint. Why? Only Lords of the Duchy of Drowenton seem to be available.

I presume Drowenton is the duchy that lacks a Duke?

Only Lords of that duchy and nobles without any estate will appear as valid options, because you cannot have any holes in your own feudal hierarchy (that is, you can be Duke and Lord and have an estate, but not Duke and have estate, but not Lord).

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"You can also create new duchies at will. A new duchy needs to have a somewhat strong base, meaning it needs to have at least one region and that region needs to be a city, stronghold or a townsland."

Somewhat Strong Base and Capital are interchangeable for me, at least if I use quotation marks :)

That's the requirement for creating a Duchy. Doesn't mean it's required to keep the Duchy. Duchies can be completely regionless, and no region of a Duchy is any more special than any other.
Timothy Collett

"The only thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart." "You are what you do.  Choose again, and change." "One of these days, someone's gonna plug you, and you're going to die saying, 'What did I say? What did I say?'"  ~ Miles Naismith Vorkosigan

Shizzle

We were planning to work around the problem. Another is appointed Duke who will appoint the Lord. The Duke steps down, after which I reappoint the Lord as Duke.

This is not considered circumvention of mechanics, is it?

But maybe it's a better idea to have the Duke-to-be leave his knightly estate (that he kept after losing his Lordship), and appointing him Duke Would this work?

Thanks for the help :)

Anaris

Quote from: Shizzle on March 15, 2012, 07:58:44 PM
We were planning to work around the problem. Another is appointed Duke who will appoint the Lord. The Duke steps down, after which I reappoint the Lord as Duke.

This is not considered circumvention of mechanics, is it?

Absolutely, 100%.

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But maybe it's a better idea to have the Duke-to-be leave his knightly estate (that he kept after losing his Lordship), and appointing him Duke Would this work?

Thanks for the help :)

Yes, and that is what is expected and intended.
Timothy Collett

"The only thing you can't trade for your heart's desire...is your heart." "You are what you do.  Choose again, and change." "One of these days, someone's gonna plug you, and you're going to die saying, 'What did I say? What did I say?'"  ~ Miles Naismith Vorkosigan

Shizzle

Aha. I'll have him abandon the estate then, and appoint him Duke afterwards.

De-Legro

Quote from: Shizzle on March 15, 2012, 07:58:44 PM
We were planning to work around the problem. Another is appointed Duke who will appoint the Lord. The Duke steps down, after which I reappoint the Lord as Duke.

This is not considered circumvention of mechanics, is it?


Its called a place holder title. Please don't do it, especially on Dwilight.
Previously of the De-Legro Family
Now of representation unknown.

fodder

any particular reason why the ruler isn't also duke (and keeping the title)?
firefox

Shizzle

Quote from: fodder on March 16, 2012, 07:57:38 AM
any particular reason why the ruler isn't also duke (and keeping the title)?

I prefer like to spread around responsability/fun. My character is meddling with every level as it is :P and I'm satisfied with my income already

fodder

well, in which case, then you just have to find someone else you want as "permanent" duke

installing a lord isn't your responsibility as ruler

as for income, as duke, you only get an extra 5% of all regions in duchy (unless you stick more % on)
firefox