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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #105: April 05, 2012, 11:31:20 PM »
What irks me is that it appears to be their goal in the game to frustrate others. And that I can not abide.

If they want a challenge and demonstrate how efficient they are, why not go to BT? I'm sure many realms there would've welcomed them with open arms.

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« Reply #106: April 06, 2012, 12:02:25 AM »
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Indeed. If there was ever a place where ridiculous, limit-breaking military and economic efficiency were needed, it would be BT, right now.

I actively avoid them. If I see certain family names someplace, I stay away. I would be perfectly happy to never have to deal with them again.

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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #107: April 06, 2012, 12:11:31 AM »
If they want a challenge and demonstrate how efficient they are, why not go to BT? I'm sure many realms there would've welcomed them with open arms.

Maybe don't destroy it then? ;)

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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #108: April 06, 2012, 01:12:29 AM »
Maybe don't destroy it then? ;)

I'm sure if they were there, destruction would likely not be on the cards. You could always invite them over to Thalmarkin if you want? ;)

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« Reply #109: April 06, 2012, 03:54:57 AM »
I'm sure if they were there, destruction would likely not be on the cards. You could always invite them over to Thalmarkin if you want? ;)

Thalmarkin already has a pretty efficient and ruthless war machine. They should all go join Nothoi. If it survives.

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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #110: April 06, 2012, 04:36:31 AM »
I had to explain this to a couple of well-intentioned players in Minas Thalion who wanted to use IRC for planning as a way of team-building. It just isn't necessary for a realm to work that way and I think players who believe otherwise are missing much of the fun to be had from interacting via the lens of their characters.
This happened on Colonies Island.

You will be much surprised that my character Ash, and other players of Spearhead, Pyran did know about this MT IRC Utopia clannie planning sort of stuff. We were invited to IRC and found out they originated from Utopia game. When their work in Oritolon(the previous realm they joined before they came to Minas Thalion) threaten to ruin everyone game especially those who not hook up with them in IRC, many of us who were invited to IRC quitted. That is when Khain and his Utopia clannies put up a rebellion, protested all Oritolon government members from their posts, their rogue army embarrassing defeated all our Oritolon army many times at our border regions. At that time, all Alowca duchy regions are rogue due to Hvrek Pysche and his multi characters rebellions crusades. So Khain and his ilk able to strike us, while basing themselves in Alowca city. As they are all banned, they cannot recruit anymore men. So we able to put a stop to that, or is it they running off to MT who welcome them with open arms.
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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #111: April 06, 2012, 04:39:19 AM »
Ok, so before the Sirion interception, who do you think would have won the war? Westmoor was in control of both Commonyr and Oberndorf. Until Sirion stepped in and wanted peace for a future Nivemus to be created... So I'm sure King Jor had a reason on why to not except Fontan's rediculous "peace offers", when so clearly Fontan would be down to Krimml by now.
Hmm, I think this statement is flawed. Do you know we had moved our capital from Krimml city to Ashforth city for sometime, at that point. And we recruit from the many good Recruitment Centers(RC), then sent our armies to counter attack Westmoor lands. Anyway that is your perspective speaking, here's my perspective.

We still have Ashforth city, I hope you do not forget that Nivemus not created at that time 8)
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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #112: April 06, 2012, 04:45:02 AM »
I don't think it's fair to characterise the election that way. Lord Justin has been in Fontan for years, as has Chancellor Aulus. It's true Minister Lyzekiel is rubbing a number of established characters up the wrong way, and I suspect there'll be trouble from that, but he's only just won his second term as a wartime General and his majority was nothing out of the ordinary.
Hey hey. My character Brock does not want Lyzekiel due to his own personal reason. Oh, well. Have to be patient for 1 more month until next election.

Fontan is attempting to retake their realm from those that have taken it over. But it is hard.  The Chancellor of Fontan is their leader and they have the position of General as well. we just took back the position of judge in our latest election.

They seem to be running Fontan like a dictatorship under the guise of a democracy. they do not use the assembly and no one votes for anything now.  the chancellor made it so regions are  not voted upon but appointed by him. 

It has gotten to the point that I am seriously considering leaving Fontan, Though I am not sure where to go. They are destroying the fun and democratic atmosphere of the realm.
If this is true, then they not interested in Banker at all. My character Brock must be super uber popular or did he bribe all his Fontan realmmates during Banker election runup? Either way, it seems nobody want contest against Brock. Until our latest election that concluded recently.

Hey, nobody in Fontan even remember anymore how Brock your current beloved Fontan Banker, who in his past as Adventurer had broken many of his Fontanese realmmates Unique Items? What is going on with all your memory? I created Brock in order to play him against his sister May Ketchum from Sirion before May got deported.

It seems we all are a forgiving lot  ;) Heh, if I bring this up IC, I am sure player of Prandur going ban Brock as soon as he elected as Judge. Or fine Brock for that matter. After all, there are some Fontan realmmates questioning Brock nobility as he rise up from lowly peasant life :P
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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #113: April 06, 2012, 06:31:14 AM »
What irks me is that it appears to be their goal in the game to frustrate others. And that I can not abide.

If they want a challenge and demonstrate how efficient they are, why not go to BT? I'm sure many realms there would've welcomed them with open arms.

I actually tried to set that up.  I particularly wanted to see what would happen if they got put in charge of the BT war effort with the full backing of a continent and a half.  Still would, at that.
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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #116: April 06, 2012, 10:22:32 AM »
Oh, forgot I appointed Mathros as Duke of... Kazakh?  I forget the old SoA capital's name.  Then again, that was more due to his conversion to the Church from the Flow, his competence and the general respect many feel towards him, and the fact that, well, Jor trusts him.  Even if he didn't vote for Jor.

* Draco Tanos eyes Mathros!

(would have edited it in, but it keeps locking up when I do!)

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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #117: April 06, 2012, 11:50:23 AM »
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Couple that with a ruling government and council of lords mostly comprised of players from Old Grehk with similar positions shared between them and then and then alone do you see a clan.

Excuse me, my characters started off in Westmoor first before immigrating to Beluaterra. There are only a couple of players in Westmoor that also have characters in Old Grehk as well. Most of those serving in the Council of Lords do not have characters in Old Grehk. Why don't you get your facts straight first before you go around making baseless accusations, especially when they are not even true.
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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #118: April 06, 2012, 03:27:02 PM »
Well thanks to you Tanos I've had to face a storm in Nivemus. You spreading lies all over the ruler's channel OOC to try to pettily gain as much support as you can for Westmoor. You basically said everyone with any association to a list of realms are saxons. Averoth, Thulsoma, now anyone who has ever had any of those names on their family pages to you are some massive clique. Point out what you like about how you're not some powermongerer in Westmoor but even in Nivemus we're suspicious of your Old Grehk linkage. Hey, if circumstantial realm association is enough for you to make accusations its enough for us, right? I mean that would be fair. Oh no wait, you have a cute phrase you can tag on to anything. "The Saxons", and with that little signature everyone jumps. Well honestly I'm sick of it, as a player, having had a character in Averoth for barely two months who then got killed off. I joined because of an OOC discussion in Fontan how there was a massive war going down with two horribly mismatched realms and I took the underdog, like any decent player should if they're interested in game balance and "the experience". Ha-de-ha. Three or four other Fontanese did too, since it seemed a lot more fun than anything else going on. Oh the audacity for wanting to do what you want with your own characters. Now you can pull that "But you were in ..." line every time you want to.

You are exactly the worst kind of player. You've made a point of using OOC to try to win through your IC objectives.

One thing you and everyone else needs to get their head around is that Averothians are certainly not saxons. The Saxons joined Averoth. There are no "Saxon Realms" that I've ever been in. That is a distinction you should do your hardest to realise. But no, you look down a family career page and just note realm names. Well guess what, thats all anyone has done with Westmoor and Old Grehk and that looks sweetily like equally conclusive evidence. The difference being your little gang are still together and still trading titles.

Like the gang in Arcachon and subsequently Madina, the same player spouting off saxon crap to make up for his own failings. I tell you what the TO of Arcachon by the Melehan Clique was the best done thing I've ever seen. Expendable characters, a load of private communication, new nobles taking up sides, bans issued to new accounts and players who attended a tournament knowing nothing could be done to reverse it. Even the OOC appeals to that were ignored. Better yet the stooge-player who did all the banning heroically suicides his character at the end to clean up the whole shop and everyone gave him a pat on the back for good roleplay. Oddly self-sacrificing that Ironhorse family.

And as for you katyanna, one of the main people in the family clan who used to run Fontan and is now upset they lost it, you need to get your facts straight. Ignore my IG attempts to get you to justify yourself but I like loads of players in Fontan have got sick to the back teeth of your family trying to win Fontan. So you targetted Justin in these elections to see him removed from the Judgeship? While at the same time you stand yours, the Draguls and the Hyde's chaarcters for every single position they can get? Even Prandur is now confused since he doesn't know if people think he is in a clan or he's in your anti-clan, which is more like The Fontan Clan out of anyone. Your Royal Family Of Fontan has fallen, don't try to cheat your way back. You've made half a dozen players leave Fontan in the time I've been there, well it won't work with me.


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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #119: April 06, 2012, 03:28:45 PM »
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