Author Topic: Fontan's Surprising Strength  (Read 45399 times)

The Arch Saxon

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Re: Fontan's Surprising Strength
« Reply #75: April 05, 2012, 06:53:40 PM »
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Well, as you've discarded the illusion entirely I'll make the effort to speak up, instead of lurking and reading the forum threads.

I've never known anyone to be so caustic on an Out of Character level, never, and it's because of ridiculous things like this that I barely even play Battlemaster any more, Tom can quite easily confirm that I rarely log in, and that when I do, I rarely do anything at all, from messaging to basic actions. Since I've joined Fontan, the most I've done is send a long roleplay after my arrival, and other than that I've talked in the realm maybe twice, discounting asking for gold to recruit. I hold no power in Fontan, I don't even have any friends, let alone political allies, I certainly don't have a clan, flattering as it is to be accused of being behind every war, rebellion, secession and happening on just about every continent (I'm just waiting to be blamed for the Paisly blight as well) I never knew my Saxon thing would gain me such infamy, and fame, and likewise earn it for all the players who played with me or even interacted with me, but then I owe that to people like you who make it their business to assail others on an Out of Character level whenever you feel like it, to ruin the gaming experience for everyone involved whilst claiming it is other people ruining the experience.

So what do you accuse me of doing in Fontan?

Running a Clan? That has already been satisfactorily disproved, and I can tell you, if I had a Clan I wouldn't be using it in Fontan, and if I had a Clan, and had been outed for having one for the past two years, I wouldn't "Clan it up" in every realm I go to, as you accuse, the success of a Clan relies upon its subterfuge and covert operations after all.

As for ruining the game experience do elaborate, I am after all, fairly inactive and you know this well enough since it took you ages to get a reply from me on the Far East every time you sent me a letter. How am I ruining the gaming experience? I log on maybe once or twice a turn, do what needs to be done, make a rare comment.

Use Out of Character friends? Well no, all of my  Out of Character friends quit because of people like you, discounting the ruler of Fontan of course, but then we rarely interact I.C. and I didn't join Fontan because he ruled in Fontan, I joined Fontan because I served in Fontan during 2007 and again in 2008, Fontan is a realm I like, and I came to Fontan to bolster it during a realm, Fontan has always been a good realm for players to join, friendly players, good atmosphere, easy to get to grips, and rewarding to play in, which coincidently is why it has such player loyalty and why people always return during war time, realms like Fontan are the ones people want to preserve, and have the In Character reasoning to do so.

I also find it hilarious you accuse me of running  a clan in  Arcachon, when it was the Lefanis Clan of about five nobles, who fought five rebellions, banned all the nobles, some even for just going to a tournament, who took control of Arcachon in the most blatant display of cliquing I have ever seen (I speak IC'ly, not accusing them of an OOC Clan or clique)  By comparison, what did I do in Arcachon? I banned Melehan, and that set the most obvious example of a Clan in motion to remove me, and in the process, they isolated, offended and pissed off most of the realm. I even remarked in Arcachon, the biggest cause of my support was the fact they flew in the face of everyone, and clearly would do anything to get power, and to keep it at all costs, which has been quite succinctly proved. I also like how most of your grievance with Arcachon seems to be that you couldn't beat us, and that we had a strong army, when we could have made one much stronger. Really, you're just pissed off that you couldn't beat Arcachon, when you thought you should have been able to. Arcachon only ever raised an army out of its own gold, its own recruits, and even then our army was smaller than our actual capability due to the fact we didn't get enough drafts. Arcachon never had a ridiculously powerful army, and I was never responsible for it either, though I suppose it is a compliment that apparently I am the best military commander around apparently, I can turn backwater realms into superpowers, though maybe I should have done that to save Thulsoma or Averoth? Arcachon also never had 100% movement rates, which is a fallacy you keep touting as proof, if we had such great movement rates, would we have lost such massive battles in places like Unotosa, Tuhpos and Nbasah which were caused due to such poor movement rates?

Arcachon never had an overly powerful army, we just had a good one, we never had 100% movement rates, we were just sensible and used a lot of forethought when moving the army. I never had a Clan, though my opponents clearly did, I never used Out of Character friends, as just about all of them bar maybe one, left the game months prior to this. Did I ever abuse the game mechanics in Arcachon? No. Did I ever abuse the Out of Character in Arcachon? No, everything was done in character.

Velax, you can't tell the difference between a Saxon and an Elf, and you can't even separate the In Character from the Out of Character, and you can't tell what is acceptable to say, from what isn't, the forum isn't hear for you to insult players and accuse them of cheating, and you make that clear when you lambaste, insult and openly attack other players, some for being Saxons when they aren't even Saxons, and have never had any substantial connection to Saxons. At best, this is a clear Out of character prejudice by one particularly spiteful and  embittered player. Do you want to know who a Saxon is? Maybe half a dozen players at best, the rest in Thulsoma were converts from other realms who were never Saxons, never knew about the Saxons, and didn't join because of it, and never assumed the identity of Saxons. The Knights of Holy Iron Chains was a clear collective of nobles from all over the continent joined together by mutual ideology, goals and religion, the Saxons, ironically, were only ever a group of players joined together by In character roleplay and friendship or In  Character Reason never anything Out of Character, and this is proven quite strongly by the fact we had nobles try to assassinate each other, or kill each other in duels, and that we had to execute our own nobles and ban others to just keep the peace, Feylonis can attest to this, a player you rather unfairly attacked when she was at best, inactive in Thulsoma, and was an Astroist priest turned Hredmonath priest. She was never a Saxon, and she was never responsible for anything that happened, and she quite obviously isn't involved in a Clan and she doesn't deserve to be treated like she was, and especially not like this. Don't accuse me of ruining the game experience, people in glass houses shouldn't throw the first stone, you've successfully managed to turn me away from a game I've played for nearly a decade, you've become the school yard bully, every time I go to do anything, or go to any new realm, or try to start new things, I know you'll be there, ready to fling the Out of Character accusations, ruining the entire in game experience, letting your Out of Character prejudice and bias turn you against anything I do In Character before I even have the chance, and this goes for other players as well on both sides. Battlemaster has become the equivalent of school - a daily chore I wish I didn't have to do, where any enjoyment I take out of it is ruined by other people just out to spoil it for the rest of us. If you don't want the gaming experience to be ruined, by all means delete your account and spare everyone this constant Out of Character war that you have even admitted you wage against certain players for In character actions.  Hell, if I ran a Clan, or Powergamed, I would have given up a long time ago, it just isn't worth the trouble and it removes all the parts of the game I love, and replaces it with the bits I despise, not that whether or not I am actually guilty will reflect on how much grief I get simply for having existed in the game.

For the sake of clarity, the Saxons don't run Fontan, the Saxons aren't even in Fontan, not a single Saxon character, the Saxons also don't run Aurvandil, Aurvandil has one master and he makes that damn clear and he's a good ruler at that, he rules with the "Orveandeaux" the original Aurvandilan's, no In Character ethnic group is even allowed representation, or religious temples, Aurvandil enforces complete monoculture on every letter and it does not tolerate any noble who would like it otherwise. The Saxons also do not run Barca, or Aslyon, or D'Hara for that matter. Likewise, the Saxons never ran Caerwyn, or Averoth, or Arcachon, or Thalmarkin, and hell, why not throw Nothoi into that bunch? I was Polemarchos there after a while, and by what you say, I clearly Clan and powergame in ever realm I go into. The Saxons are a dead people, deal with it, I did for a time play an epic resurgence in Dwilight, I even had a lot of roleplay and religious back story prepared (which the wiki indicates and hints to) but it just isn't worth it, I've spent the past year trying to distance myself from the Saxons, and even then, I'm still dealing with the backlash of a few nescient and prejudiced players who don't have the slightest clue of what they are on about, or who they accuse. The Saxons are gone, the In character legacy has been tarnished beyond repair by Out of Character aspersions, and because of it many genuinely innocent players who had the misfortune to join Thulsoma, or even Averoth, or Aurvandil now carry a stigma forced on them unfairly, and this is now reaching into the hundreds of players you are branding with the same brush.

Get your !@#$ together Velax, learn to separate the In Character from the Out of Character, learn what a Saxon is, and next time you find yourself losing a war due to sheer incompetence, don't cast accusations of OOC abuses.