Author Topic: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict  (Read 236994 times)

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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #165: April 13, 2012, 02:06:28 PM »
Man, I really hate that code. Barca finally gets its first war, and the game tells it "Oh, maybe you shouldn't do that". It goes against everything we've been pushing for for as long as I can remember.

If it's random. With the ambassadors roaming around, it is not necessarily so.

(Disclaimer: I have never even set foot in Barca, not my fault!)
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #166: April 13, 2012, 02:17:58 PM »
If it's random. With the ambassadors roaming around, it is not necessarily so.

(Disclaimer: I have never even set foot in Barca, not my fault!)

It's not random, but it defaults to it way too easily.

If it weren't for my actions, Fheuv'n's peasants would love all of our traditional enemies, especially Sint and Rio... Which is dumb.
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #167: April 13, 2012, 03:21:41 PM »
ask?

funny thing about food. tons around waiting to be sold and no one buying them

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the war thing, i would think is based on the stat... what's it called.. equivalent to loyalty.. (or rather... loyalty is simply that stat for your own regions applied to your own realm)
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #168: April 13, 2012, 03:30:45 PM »
the war thing, i would think is based on the stat... what's it called.. equivalent to loyalty.. (or rather... loyalty is simply that stat for your own regions applied to your own realm)

Sympathy.
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #169: April 13, 2012, 04:36:40 PM »
Sympathy.

Once they kill some Kabrinskians in battle it should decline again, right?
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #170: April 13, 2012, 04:52:37 PM »
Perhaps if we badmouth Kabrinskia?
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #171: April 13, 2012, 05:00:11 PM »
Perhaps if we badmouth Kabrinskia?

Yes.

Once they kill some Kabrinskians in battle it should decline again, right?

Good question actually. If Kabrinskians loot you, then yes for sure. If you win a battle in that region the flavor text ("The locals are grateful for defending their homes" or something like that) hints that sympathy towards you rise, but not necessarily that it is lowered towards the enemy. Is just fighting Kabrinskians generally sufficient? I'm not sure at all.
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #172: April 13, 2012, 05:27:25 PM »
I'm pretty sure that "grateful for defending" only works if you defeat monster/undead hordes in the region. The locals won't be happy if you defeat their own soldiers in the region.
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #173: April 14, 2012, 04:40:38 AM »
Looting in a region only lowers sympathy to your realm in that region, not the rest of the realm.

So if you own W, X, Y, and Z, and they loot W, X, and Y, Z is still gonna love them. Even if you declare hatred and "whip your peasants in a hatred frenzy against them".

Sure, you can go do diplo work to reduce sympathy, but it's a painful process, especially if you have a large realm or many regions.

I would get this feature if it was the result of diplo work to increase sympathy significantly, but as it is, it just seems to appear from default values. Even if the effects are tiny, the text that is presented sends a really bad message.
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #174: April 14, 2012, 11:56:52 AM »
I could be wrong, but I think there is some "bleed" when you loot regions. Sympathy for your realm in adjacent regions (that belongs to the same realm that you're looting) decreases as well, although not nearly as quickly.
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #175: April 14, 2012, 02:25:18 PM »
I could be wrong, but I think there is some "bleed" when you loot regions. Sympathy for your realm in adjacent regions (that belongs to the same realm that you're looting) decreases as well, although not nearly as quickly.

The mythical bleed.

I seem to remember devs saying it didn't exist. Besides, even if it does, it certainly doesn't have any impacts more than 1 region away, because Rio looted Enweil quite a few times over the years and yet the western regions still loved them.
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #176: April 14, 2012, 04:29:34 PM »


64,000.

And how big will Golden Farrow get if you keep feeding it?

Much bigger.

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As far as food is concerned, Terran has the leg up, though of course Kabrinskia can trade with Morek and whatnot.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but 64,000 is almost GFs max population these days ;)

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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #177: April 14, 2012, 05:19:32 PM »
Really?

Interesting.
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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #178: April 14, 2012, 05:29:07 PM »
Two rebalances did a number on the biggest cities' populations. Giask's max population was cut almost in half, from 198,500 to I think about 104,500.

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Re: The Terran-Kabrinskian Conflict
« Reply #179: April 14, 2012, 06:01:39 PM »
66,700  is GF's max population.  We still have 1900 gold production though!  so that is really good.  Combine that with a good tax rate and GF kicked out 3296 gold last week.
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