Fontan VS Westmoor/Perdan/caligus war

[Indirik]

Well, we had:

Fontan, Sultanate

vs

Sirion, Old Rancagua, Obsidian Islands, Perdan, and Confederacy of Fontan


And wasn't Caligus also helping CoF (although "help" is debatable at at that point, I think.)

Perdan left the war after Westmoor duchy was captured and seceded to form Westmoor.

[Draco Tanos]

And how many years ago was that?  lol

[Sonya]

Why are we copy pasting threads now?


Are we that bored?




peace!

[Draco Tanos]

WTF are you talking about?

[Indirik]

And how many years ago was that?  lol

That was the war that founded Westmoor. I'm a bit surprised you don't even know the history of the realm you've ruled for so long... 

It was around the middle of 2008.

[Draco Tanos]

Psst.  I know the history.  I'm implying that if that particular war is what katayanna is talking about, it's irrelevant to recent in-game memory.

[Indirik]

In the overall scheme of things, that *is* relevant. The last battles of that war were fought less than a year ago. And you can bet that the rulers of the realms around you know that history. ][osferatu of Perdan remembers wars much, much older than that, and those wars shape his outlook and goals in the current wars. So does Dobby.

[Draco Tanos]

The last battles of which were for a long time four/five on one, the one being Sirion?

You can't really complain about getting taken down by multiple realms when you plot to do the exact same things for others.

Wonder why this forum didn't show your post as "new"...

[Indirik]

The sides in that war did change a lot. But even at its worst, it wasn't really a gang-bang. It really took all those realms to take on Fontan. They really were that good. And then when things changed, it really took all those realms to take on Sirion, and they still won.

[Draco Tanos]

Sirion definitely has geography more on its side, at least compared to Fontan.  That helped tip the balance in Sirion's favor during that war.  If Fontan was in a truly defensible position?  I doubt they'd have really needed to get people to swap sides to attack Sirion.

[Ketchum]

Fontan is bad at Diplomacy I guess. We need better Ambassadors and better Rulers obviously

It would be interesting to hear Perdan/Caligus take on this war. Perdan being motherland of Westmoor, it doesnt surprise much. Caligus? Not a sound of wolves coming, that what my character Brock in Fontan see IC

[Draco Tanos]

You realize that Caligus founded Westmoor along with Perdan, yes?

[Zakilevo]

Caligus will probably found a new colony.

[Ketchum]

You realize that Caligus founded Westmoor along with Perdan, yes?

Oh, but my character Brock does not know that IC. So I just play him along

Caligus will probably found a new colony.

Yeah, this I agree. Caligus already hold Fontan city. Being the nearest neighbor with big stick, Caligus sure will found a new colony next door to the mighty sleeping World War II U.S.A a.k.a. Sirion

[Indirik]

If Fontan was in a truly defensible position?  I doubt they'd have really needed to get people to swap sides to attack Sirion.

Fontan did not get people to switch sides. They had nothing to do with it. Here's how it went down:

When Westmoor was founded, they declared neutrality and an intent to stay out of the war. Fontan, smartly, accepted and signed peace treaties and declared friendship with Westmoor. Perdan declared that their objective in the war was achieved, and stepped back. (Although we did smash the crap out of the Sultanate a time or two, due to insults delivered by the Sultanate toward Perdan. It is a tribute to the incompetence of OR and OI that the Sultanate survived. We smashed them down until they had only their capital, with no recruiting centers, then left. SoA came right back and crushed OR and OI both. Kudos to SoA for kicking ass.)

What turned Westmoor and Perdan against Sirion was Sirion's stupidly clumsy attempt to get Westmoor to backstab Fontan.