Clanning Scenario

[Uzamaki]

This is a hypothetical situation.

Suppose their is a player who plays with 5-6 of his friends, all of them just putting in a character or two in a realm. These guys are a little band of players, and apparently influence each other enough that they all just joined a realm at the same time and perhaps influence each other more than that.

In that situation would they be a multi-player clan and therefore be in violation of Battlemaster rules?

[Bael]

You would have to see how they interact ingame. Do they always support each other, and if they do support each other, are there ingame reasons for their association? How much influence have they gained in the realm?

It is possible for people who know each other to play in the same realm and not support each other unless there is an ingame connection that they have validly built.

[Uzamaki]

You would have to see how they interact ingame. Do they always support each other, and if they do support each other, are there ingame reasons for their association? How much influence have they gained in the realm?

It is possible for people who know each other to play in the same realm and not support each other unless there is an ingame connection that they have validly built.

Hypothetically speaking, they just joined.

And yes, I understand that people can know each other and not support each other.

Adding on to this scenario, the hypothetical group skypes together and the player would like for one of his friend that he knows OOC to install his own form of a religion.

[Eithad]

That depends, are they playing for fun, or playing to win.

[Uzamaki]

That depends, are they playing for fun, or playing to win.

For fun at the moment.

[Bedwyr]

In that situation would they be a multi-player clan and therefore be in violation of Battlemaster rules?

Unless the rules changed and I missed it (sadly possible given my lack of activity of late) there is no ban on clans.  There is a ban on clans that are exclusionary and make things not fun for everyone else.  Specifically, "Don't use your clan to ruin other people's fun".

For instance, by your definition, and substituting IRC for Skype, a whole group of people I know were a clan.  Originally played together in various ways, all of us ended up with characters in Arcaea, chatted in the #Arcaea channel, and quite a number sent people to Pian en Luries when Koli became active/powerful there.  However, others were included in the power discussions, and while most of the Arcaea bunch started supporting Koli and he them, various divisions arose (best example is probably De-Legro's and Solari's characters at the end), and I don't think anyone would argue that there was undue amounts of working together, given that everything was dissolving into civil war even before Koli's assassination.

[De-Legro]

Unless the rules changed and I missed it (sadly possible given my lack of activity of late) there is no ban on clans.  There is a ban on clans that are exclusionary and make things not fun for everyone else.  Specifically, "Don't use your clan to ruin other people's fun".

For instance, by your definition, and substituting IRC for Skype, a whole group of people I know were a clan.  Originally played together in various ways, all of us ended up with characters in Arcaea, chatted in the #Arcaea channel, and quite a number sent people to Pian en Luries when Koli became active/powerful there.  However, others were included in the power discussions, and while most of the Arcaea bunch started supporting Koli and he them, various divisions arose (best example is probably De-Legro's and Solari's characters at the end), and I don't think anyone would argue that there was undue amounts of working together, given that everything was dissolving into civil war even before Koli's assassination.

What do you mean, I was helping Koli the entire time, he just didn't really know what was best for him. Solari and Juan ALWAYS knew what was best for Koli :)

[Vellos]

This is a hypothetical situation.

Suppose their is a player who plays with 5-6 of his friends, all of them just putting in a character or two in a realm. These guys are a little band of players, and apparently influence each other enough that they all just joined a realm at the same time and perhaps influence each other more than that.

In that situation would they be a multi-player clan and therefore be in violation of Battlemaster rules?

Clans are not prohibited. Behavior by any player or group of players which is OOCly exclusive and violates the social contract is prohibited.

[Bedwyr]

What do you mean, I was helping Koli the entire time, he just didn't really know what was best for him. Solari and Juan ALWAYS knew what was best for Koli :)

Just like we knew what was best for Alanna, right?

[De-Legro]

Just like we knew what was best for Alanna, right?

Very similar yes. Mind you things were less about Koli and more about several other members of PeL.

[Foundation]

* Foundation loves Alanna and Koli. :)

_{edit: as characters, of course.  ;D}

[Sacha]

Just like we knew what was best for Alanna, right?

She's still alive, isn't she? had we not removed her from the throne, the stress would have killed her long ago!

[Indirik]

Sounds to me like the OP is not so much putting forth a hypothetical, as a "I .. err ..  umm.... my "friend" ... has this problem..."

If you think it's a clan, and they are demonstrated exclusionary behavior, head over to the Magistrates and report it.

[egamma]

Sounds to me like the OP is not so much putting forth a hypothetical, as a "I .. err ..  umm.... my "friend" ... has this problem..."

If you think it's a clan, and they are demonstrated exclusionary behavior, head over to the Magistrates and report it.

He's worried that someone is going to report HIM, hypothetically speaking of course.

[Uzamaki]

He's worried that someone is going to report HIM, hypothetically speaking of course.

Actually, I am not involved. But yes, it is about a group in Battlemaster.

EDIT: Always makes me feel good when the messenger get's accused though.  ;)