Luria

[Feylonis]

Hey, interesting project idea. Let's trace the ancestry of all the Dwilight realms (from the First Four).

[Penchant]

I agree with that statement though.

I find it hard to make any argument that counters hers.

So how does you and your lands not equal D'hara and D'harans?

[Dante Silverfire]

So how does you and your lands not equal D'hara and D'harans?

D'Hara was founded as an offshoot of Luria. The current Luria Nova was created as part of the core of Luria. Luria Nova was the whos monarch's were granted the claims of Luria by the Lurian Empire and Pian en Luries before them. D'Hara has no such claim to those.

D'Hara in addition was created specifically by those seeking to oppose Luria and its goals. It was built from traitors to the Lurian crown. Why would they retain claim to the lands of Luria?

[Penchant]

D'Hara was founded as an offshoot of Luria. The current Luria Nova was created as part of the core of Luria. Luria Nova was the whos monarch's were granted the claims of Luria by the Lurian Empire and Pian en Luries before them. D'Hara has no such claim to those.

D'Hara in addition was created specifically by those seeking to oppose Luria and its goals. It was built from traitors to the Lurian crown. Why would they retain claim to the lands of Luria?

So what your saying is that D'hara has no claim to the lands it owns? I am a bit confused tbh.

[Dante Silverfire]

So what your saying is that D'hara has no claim to the lands it owns? I am a bit confused tbh.

Not at all. D'Hara certainly has claim to the lands it owns. Luria just has a prior and stronger claim.

[Stabbity]

And I believe were renounced as part of the present peace.

That was apart of the ridiculous terms Rynn offered for peace and the messenger vearing them rode the riars of laughter all the way back to Port Raviel.

"Our biggest military accomplishment was retaking the Desert while Luria Nova pressed our ally and gave zero !@#$s about us taking the region. Give us Girich and renounce your claims or face our wrath!"

[Tandaros]

A lot of time has passed since the time of Lurian dominance in the Dragon Isles. I think the claim weakens the longer it's merely a claim and not a manifest reality.

[D`Este]

A claims are as strong as the force that supports it.

[Sacha]

Judging from their recent performance that doesn't do much to strengthen Luria's claims

[Stabbity]

Judging from their recent performance that doesn't do much to strengthen Luria's claims

If we're going strictly on Performance, D'hara should have claim to the Desert, and that's about it.

[Penchant]

If we're going strictly on Performance, D'hara should have claim to the Desert, and that's about it.

I disagree.

[Lorgan]

If we're going strictly on Performance, D'hara should have claim to the Desert, and that's about it.

Not that it'd be much of a difference. They'd still have no food, no gold and a terrible tactical position. 

[Samboji]

But they would be safe from our advys hunting their precious monsters and undead to extinction. Which would be their only substantial form of income if they only had the desert.

I hate that desert. It costs me 8-10 gold every time I want to spy on D'hara just to go around it. They could have the decency to put some roads in or something.

The next peace-treaty, ceasefire or random bit of diplomacy we do with D'hara, can we demand that they put in some sodding transport infrastructure through the desert? I've had to pay for ships 3 times now. It's damn inconvenient to spy on them, I'll tell you that.

[Woelfy]

But they would be safe from our advys hunting their precious monsters and undead to extinction. Which would be their only substantial form of income if they only had the desert.

I hate that desert. It costs me 8-10 gold every time I want to spy on D'hara just to go around it. They could have the decency to put some roads in or something.

The next peace-treaty, ceasefire or random bit of diplomacy we do with D'hara, can we demand that they put in some sodding transport infrastructure through the desert? I've had to pay for ships 3 times now. It's damn inconvenient to spy on them, I'll tell you that.

That's why you get a spy in D'Hara. Geez.

[JeVondair]

That's why you get a spy in D'Hara. Geez.

Seriously, its not even that hard. :-p