Author Topic: The Demise of Fontan  (Read 15476 times)

Peri

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Re: The Demise of Fontan
« Reply #30: May 30, 2012, 03:44:26 PM »
You people have some really weird, revisionist views of history.

Sirion's proposal to have Westmoor betray Fontan was not made up, or propaganda, or anything of the sort. The ruler that took over after Doc Primus left (I forget his name, some long-time Sirionites probably remember) made a proposal to Westmoor that they betray their peace treaty with Fontan and take some Fontan lands. This is not made up. It is well-known fact.

That is one reason Perdan joined the war against Sirion. We were also impressed at Fontan's honorable dealings with us during the war, their willingness to let the Westmoor duchy go without endless bitterness and squabbling, and their friendship with Westmoor. Add all that on to the fact that we *still* owed Sirion a few black eyes, and wanted to bust them up, and you have all the reasons you need for war.

Perdan was not suffering from TMP penalties at the time. (Was there even TMP in the game back then?) We wanted a war to fight, and we had every legitimate reason you can ask for to want to fight Sirion.

Wait, there is one point which is not completely correct. At a certain time Sirion Perdan Caligus Westmoor and OR were at war against Fontan/SoA. Discussions for a peace were becoming increasingly lengthy mostly because of Sirion's stubborness due to two points: 1) Perdan Caligus and Westmoor didn't care about the fate of OR and did not want to include them in the treaty, where Sirion pushed for it. 2) Sirion requests for itself, but mostly for OR, were quite unreasonable given the performances in the war and the current geopolitical scenario, but were motivated mostly by the bitterness for having lost a lot.

It was at that moment that Sirion tried to "sell" his "ally" (where really quotes means we allied just to fight together more than else) Westmoor to Fontan, trying to somehow come out with a proposal which would allow SoA to remain large but without shrinking OR (mainly, redeploy SoA and Fontan within Westmoor or something like that).

This proposal was forwarded by Zadek to Westmoor Caligus and Perdan, which led them rightfully to super anger and convinced them to dump Sirion and OR entirely and make their own separate peace. 

After a considerable amount of time (real life months at least), Westmoor suddenly decided they wanted to join the war against Sirion but, instead of trying to base such a decision on the old attempt by Sirion to sell them, they went all the way through crazy and super artificial claims (like the fact Sirion kidnapped their old king. wtf?) which basically revealed the fact they were being hit by TMP and were looking for some kind of war - possibly one which would not put them at stake. Only after a bit of time - and some changes in rulership - Westmoor more or less cohesively aligned behind the more reasonable claim of kicking Sirion's nuts because of their past behaviour while helping Fontan with which they had built an alliance over time. Perdan then backed them up as Indirik said. During all this time it was indeed Handow the ruler of Sirion, as Uzamaki said.

Some people in Sirion really never forgive Westmoor for what they did, since from what transpired publicly, they went to war without any reason and opened up the 5v1 war against Sirion.