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Family Gold update effects
« Topic Start: August 10, 2012, 01:10:00 PM »
Darka suddenly loses its ability to produce extra large armies on an instant as all of its dukes and most of its lords jump from 10k family gold to 20k family gold overnight.

Hammarsett and Carelia watch as the average family gold grows and theirs stays constant or drops.

The Dukes across the continent decide to build less fancy palaces and more stored away.

The Dictators build more shiny palaces just because they can.

CE uses the increased family gold in other realms to convince other realms to not fight CE.

Suville is declared the next Abington even though their lords continue to put their gold into the war effort.

The knights of Atamara watch as the rich get richer and their lords have another reason to increase the taxes...
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Re: Family Gold update effects
« Reply #1: August 10, 2012, 01:32:23 PM »
I don't really understand this change. What's the point of increasing the cap to 20,000?

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« Reply #2: August 10, 2012, 03:05:34 PM »
It's all part of a three step plan:

1. Increase family gold to 20,000
2. Get rid of family gold
3. Laugh at greedy players

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Re: Family Gold update effects
« Reply #3: August 10, 2012, 03:12:27 PM »
It's all part of a three step plan:

1. Increase family gold to 20,000
2. Get rid of family gold
3. Laugh at greedy players

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Re: Family Gold update effects
« Reply #4: August 10, 2012, 03:49:28 PM »
I don't really understand this change. What's the point of increasing the cap to 20,000?

It turned out that I was wrong in my estimate that 10k would be really, really a lot that almost nobody would save up.

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« Reply #5: August 10, 2012, 03:53:48 PM »
It turned out that I was wrong in my estimate that 10k would be really, really a lot that almost nobody would save up.

I suggest a new cap at 640k pieces of gold. It ought to be enough for anyone!
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« Reply #6: August 10, 2012, 04:51:14 PM »
It turned out that I was wrong in my estimate that 10k would be really, really a lot that almost nobody would save up.

Then what makes you think adding an extra 10k will make any difference? If people made it a goal to hit the current cap (as they clearly did), I'm sure they'll simply view the increased cap as a renewed challenge.

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Re: Family Gold update effects
« Reply #7: August 10, 2012, 04:51:54 PM »
What else is there to do with all my goldz? Must hoard!
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Re: Family Gold update effects
« Reply #8: August 10, 2012, 05:06:38 PM »
Then what makes you think adding an extra 10k will make any difference? If people made it a goal to hit the current cap (as they clearly did), I'm sure they'll simply view the increased cap as a renewed challenge.

Yes, but not all will be able or willing to do so. It should thin out a little. Right now, half of the top 20 have the max. If in the future half as many do, the top list will finally have a meaning again.

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Re: Family Gold update effects
« Reply #9: August 10, 2012, 05:15:35 PM »
True enough, though I suspect that given enough time it will return to the current state.

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Re: Family Gold update effects
« Reply #10: August 10, 2012, 05:17:57 PM »
Apart from investments, is there any point to family wealth?

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Re: Family Gold update effects
« Reply #11: August 10, 2012, 05:19:37 PM »
Apart from investments, is there any point to family wealth?

Buying regions.
Posting bounties from family wealth.
Ransoming yourself out of prison when your character is broke.
Family influence to repair and entertain in any city.

Should I go on?
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Re: Family Gold update effects
« Reply #12: August 10, 2012, 05:37:45 PM »
True enough, though I suspect that given enough time it will return to the current state.

It has taken 8+ years to get to the current state. Even if it takes half of that to get to the same state with 20k family wealth I'd say it has been a pretty successful change.
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« Reply #13: August 10, 2012, 05:40:25 PM »
It has taken 8+ years to get to the current state. Even if it takes half of that to get to the same state with 20k family wealth I'd say it has been a pretty successful change.
Meh... the only thing that has changed on the richest families list in the past 5 or 6 years is the names. Other than that, it doesn't look much different than it did back in 2007.
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« Reply #14: August 10, 2012, 05:42:31 PM »
Buying regions.
Posting bounties from family wealth.
Ransoming yourself out of prison when your character is broke.
Family influence to repair and entertain in any city.

Should I go on?

Buying regions was removed as a feature, wasn't it? That was far and away the most interesting and powerful application of family wealth, though investments are also a very powerful and useful option.