New War Predictions

[m2rt]

DEATH TO CALIGUS!

Death to Doombringer! Or whatever his name is now! Death to Menethil family with Caligus! ATTACK!

[Uzamaki]

Nobody wants to fight Caligus. And I don't blame them. They pretty much never lose.

[Draco Tanos]

Except when they were almost wiped out but protected by Perdan before that could happen.

[Lorgan]

Except when they were almost wiped out but protected by Perdan before that could happen.

They were actually wiped out, Perdan had to give them Partora so they could survive.

[Indirik]

If they were wiped out, they wouldn't exist. Caligus and Perdan were defeated, not destroyed.

[Draco Tanos]

They forget who their true friends are either way.  And yes, Indirik's correct in the semantics of your wording.  They'd have had to have been re-founded if they were wiped out and that doesn't seem to be the case.

Honestly though?  I would ideally see (OOC at least, IC I'd only like to see Sirion shattered and broken) EC with Perdan, Caligus, and Sirion broken up a bit.  A bunch of medium sized realms rather than three or four monsters could make it a bit more fun.

[Lorgan]

If they were wiped out, they wouldn't exist. Caligus and Perdan were defeated, not destroyed.

Yes but they had to give up their last city and pretty much all of their lands and move into a city of their allies. Caligus as we knew it back then was wiped from the map.

But yeah... you guys are right that they were not literally wiped out.

[Gabanus family]

Nobody wants to fight Caligus. And I don't blame them. They pretty much never lose.

As said that's wrong, it surprises me that they are still alive though after all they've done. Think they pretty much betrayed everyone at least once by now, or maybe not Sirion?

Ps, why hasn't anyone (Church of humanity?) started a frenzy against Sirion because many of them are not human? It was my plan once with Aeneas..but then Ibladesh got destroyed

[Dishman]

Honestly though?  I would ideally see (OOC at least, IC I'd only like to see Sirion shattered and broken) EC with Perdan, Caligus, and Sirion broken up a bit.  A bunch of medium sized realms rather than three or four monsters could make it a bit more fun.

Can you imagine the scramble if one duke from each of the big realms all seceded at the same time?

Far more reasonable would be if planned independent realms were established by the bigger ones...but where's the chaos in that?

[Draco Tanos]

It would be interesting, for sure.  But unless it was many mass secessions, it wouldn't be so.kuch chaotic but annoying.

As for the CoH the vast majority of our members are already anti-Sirion.  We actually have one who is a member of Sirion, so if it becomes a religious war it will be interesting to see that dynamic.  Because it is generally discouraged to deseat CoH lords.  Maybe if he builds a temple...  Hrm...

[Uzamaki]

In the grand scheme of things, what I said was wrong. But look at their recent successes: Won against Perdan, won against Ibladesh, won against Dunnera. Caligus is on a roll. They are much bigger and much stronger than when they were clubbed by Perdan back in the day.

[Uzamaki]

And I didn't say they never lose... I said they 'pretty much' never lose. Which, as of late, is true.

[Ketchum]

It pretty much make it interesting if somehow former Dunnera nobles rise up through Sirion, Nivemus and Westmoor. Somebody need shake the spider webs and start the war machine again.

Also all the Dukes of Caligus, Perdan and Sirion are not seceding anytime soon it seems. Ask them secede at same time and watch the magic unfold! :P

[Eduardo Almighty]

I'm back to the Forum after a long time. I saw some messages about Krimml and the region is going very well within Avamar, now one of the greatest duchies of East Continent. I think that's why people avoided to give Duke's power to Erik ;)

In recent days Sirion is very busy with its internal affairs and it has always been good in foreign policy. I don't believe that we will stay without war in East Continent. Someone will have to make the first move.

In Sirion we don't believe in secessions. We always want more, no less.

[Galvez]

Ps, why hasn't anyone (Church of humanity?) started a frenzy against Sirion because many of them are not human? It was my plan once with Aeneas..but then Ibladesh got destroyed

I guess most of Sirion is human. I believe there aren't many of the old elves left.