The Marrocidenian war

[Glaumring the Fox]

With friends like the Astroist coalition... Who needs Frenemies?

[Perth]

Here's a better question: what reason does SA have to declare war on Prvencia di florenza? it is even nuetral with Aurvandil. you could just go around

Seriously?

Umm.. several reasons:

1) The Véinsørmoot regards the Duchy of Paisly as rightfully D'Haran and therefore Little Italy there is an enemy (the fact that it was put there by Aurvandil only compounds the issue).

2) It is clearly nothing more than an attempt to slow down the Coalition's campaign whose secession came only to try to cause pause or disruption to the campaign.

3) It is an insulting offensive colonization of Véinsørmoot territory by Aurvandil; trying to implant their culture directly into the Maroccidens Proper.

4) It is made up of a bunch of Aurvandil nobility.

[Glaumring the Fox]

Why in the world would Asylon come out supporting the Paisly colony? It doesn't even make sense.

We fight for the underdog and we do not sell out just to win. You have enough armies, why add more to the pile? Asylon dances to a different drummer and as long as it exists we will strive to be individuals. We are not slaves to faith, we are free men and nobles, we are brighter than the stars.

[Vellos]

Seriously?

Umm.. several reasons:

1) The Véinsørmoot regards the Duchy of Paisly as rightfully D'Haran and therefore Little Italy there is an enemy (the fact that it was put there by Aurvandil only compounds the issue).

2) It is clearly nothing more than an attempt to slow down the Coalition's campaign whose secession came only to try to cause pause or disruption to the campaign.

3) It is an insulting offensive colonization of Véinsørmoot territory by Aurvandil; trying to implant their culture directly into the Maroccidens Proper.

4) It is made up of a bunch of Aurvandil nobility.

5. Because it's really boring to have a gigantic allied army sit in Chesney and do nothing. So why not kill a realm or two?

[Perth]

We fight for the underdog and we do not sell out just to win. You have enough armies, why add more to the pile? Asylon dances to a different drummer and as long as it exists we will strive to be individuals. We are not slaves to faith, we are free men and nobles, we are brighter than the stars.

This makes no sense.

Oh, that actually explains it. Thank you.

[Lefanis]

Here's a better question: what reason does SA have to declare war on Prvencia di florenza? it is even nuetral with Aurvandil. you could just go around

Heh. That's pretty funny 

[Glaumring the Fox]

This makes no sense.

Oh, that actually explains it. Thank you.

It doesnt have to make complete sense, its a game. We sometimes make decisions for fun. If we wanted to play the game to win we wouldnt be playing BM. Some of us play to create stories. Thats how we win.

[Zakilevo]

Why not just wipe out Asylon before fighting Aurvandil? That way you don't have to worry about Asylon siding with Aurvandil

[Feylonis]

They already have, afaik. Asylon is obliged by the alliance with Fiorenza to invade after the coalition broke through Paisland.

[Penchant]

Well, not all of us are happy to be compliant with using so many allies it almost makes the war pointless. The Veinsormoot tried to take on Aurvandil alone, got badly defeated, refused unconditional peace and now they've brought all of S.A. lets see if the Church will fair any better. If Aurvandil loses then God forbid the south will become like the north and Dwilight will become unplayable for anyone who doesn't want to sit in relative silence counting piles of gold waiting for the next dog pile war, which is all S.A. seems to ever do.

But the answer to your statement is no, Asylon is just one facet, and I shall give you a tit for tat exchange of "As if D'Hara could ever stop anyone anyway". Really, you don't have the right to mock Asylon for their military.

two things, first the Asylon comment I believe is more of with all of SA and moot against the new colony, Asylon is kinda irrelevant. Also though SA can take your regions with the new system it isn't a way to have your realm in two different areas due to the distance to capital penalties causing the region to revolt almost instantly after the army leaves the region so realms aren't overstepping their bounds.

[Bjarnson]

They already have, afaik. Asylon is obliged by the alliance with Fiorenza to invade after the coalition broke through Paisland.

Oh, are we allied with Fiorenza? As far as I know we have only signed a peace treaty with them. Making us as much allies with them as with any other realm on Dwilight.

[Nosferatus]

If Aurvandil loses then God forbid the south will become like the north and Dwilight will become unplayable for anyone who doesn't want to sit in relative silence counting piles of gold waiting for the next dog pile war, which is all S.A. seems to ever do.

I sure hope not man, i sure hope not.
I personally think they can't pull this off.
Besides, what do ye think Abbots been doing all this time?

[Chenier]

Here's a better question: what reason does SA have to declare war on Prvencia di florenza? it is even nuetral with Aurvandil. you could just go around

How can people SERIOUSLY believe this crap? Aurvandil created a 3-man colony from stolen D'Haran lands, for the SPECIFIC reason of creating a buffer between Aurvandil and others (Mendicant said so many times), and Aurvandilians wonder why people (including D'Harans) don't like this new realm!?

There is no neutrality. It has been made painfully clear since the first day that the idea was mentioned that the colony wouldn't be tolerated.

How about we go form a colony in Candiels, and claim it's a neutral new polity with no instructions on whose side to be on? I'm sure Aurvandil would be delighted by this, right?

[Feylonis]

Oh, are we allied with Fiorenza? As far as I know we have only signed a peace treaty with them. Making us as much allies with them as with any other realm on Dwilight.

"Letter from Florence Endellion (3 hours, 55 minutes ago) Message sent to the Rulers of Dwilight (16 recipients) The notion of Provincia di Fiorenza being used as an extension of Aurvandil was already considered,such is why I have drawn up agreements with third parties such as Asylon where they have already sworn to defend our neutrality by force of arms,which includes invading the Provincia should we break the neutrality.

If such treaties are insufficient to dissuade you from war,then it is clear you do not care either way,whether or not Provincia di Fiorenza is truly neutral.

Florence Endellion Gonfaloniere of Provincia di Fiorenza Duchess of Florentine City-State of Paisly Margravine of Paisly"

?

[Chenier]

Asylon backstabbing us doesn't make the bunch any more neutral.