I also think that some clarification is needed w/r/t Thomas, Enri, and Carelia, which we can talk about elsewhere in more detail if you'd like, Yangfan. I'm not sure if the explanation given is IC or OOC, but I pulled Thomas out of Carelia because the dukes and duchesses were either criminally incompetent or outright treasonous. Carelia could have stomped CE early on and gained a precious advantage were it not for those anchors around the realm's neck. The realm stopped being fun, because nobody in a position of authority seemed to care enough, or risk enough, to do anything about it.