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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #45: January 19, 2013, 02:44:02 PM »
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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #46: January 19, 2013, 03:13:43 PM »
Things would have been much different if Caspius hadn't suddenly, spontaneously melted down, and then his replacement started a war and then ignored everything.
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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #47: January 19, 2013, 07:54:13 PM »
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I, for one, am sick and tired of being in realms that are boring, do nothing, and just wither away. Screw that crap. Even if we lose, then at least we tried.

That certainly does seem to be the Sartanian circle of life in a nutshell. Rise, make some bizarre decision, collapse in on yourselves, repeat cycle.

It does make things interesting even if it leaves a checkered history behind. You guys should stop picking on Ohnar West and try and stir up something else though.

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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #48: January 19, 2013, 10:26:12 PM »
You obviously don't understand your own God.

Wanna duel over it?

Sartanism's willingness to shake things up is what makes it fun, however it needs to be done intelligently. Caspius' apparent policy of "attack first, think later" may have been fun for bored Sorrainian veterans, it wasn't for Sartanians outside the theocracy who desired some kind of political career. What makes a religion fun is successful conflict, and part of that is being a good diplomat to allow you to get away with religious wars on a continent where secularism is the ruling ideology.

You're assuming Caspius was going to lose his conflicts, and that he was a poor diplomat. To every man his opinions, but Caspius did manage to keep Sorraine in a good position whilst being alive.
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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #49: January 20, 2013, 05:30:55 AM »
You guys should stop picking on Ohnar West and try and stir up something else though.

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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #50: January 20, 2013, 04:10:13 PM »
You're assuming Caspius was going to lose his conflicts, and that he was a poor diplomat. To every man his opinions, but Caspius did manage to keep Sorraine in a good position whilst being alive.

You're assuming an awful lot about Aeneas as well. He does believe in war etc, but not for bloodlust and that seemed the apparent difference between Caspius and Aeneas. He's also seen the CoI fall before and is hellbend to ensure it doesn't happen again. The political atmosphere which was left to Aeneas is difficult and needs to be handled first before the CoS wishes to accomplish greatness again.
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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #51: January 20, 2013, 10:12:08 PM »
You're assuming an awful lot about Aeneas as well. He does believe in war etc, but not for bloodlust and that seemed the apparent difference between Caspius and Aeneas. He's also seen the CoI fall before and is hellbend to ensure it doesn't happen again. The political atmosphere which was left to Aeneas is difficult and needs to be handled first before the CoS wishes to accomplish greatness again.

I knew Aeneas, so that's hardly assuming anything: it's more or less anecdotal evidence.

Greatness is accomplished through war and triumph in the name of Sartan. It is no accomplished by standing idly by and letting the Adghar faith be reborn in one's own lands :P
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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #52: January 21, 2013, 01:48:23 PM »
Wanna duel over it?
Sure, a dead corpse against a priest. Two reason why that won't work out. But me char has served the Church twice as long as Caspius has lived, and I see you make the same mistake all non-believers make. That makes me think you do not know your own God.

Greatness is accomplished through war and triumph in the name of Sartan. It is no accomplished by standing idly by and letting the Adghar faith be reborn in one's own lands :P
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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #53: January 21, 2013, 03:38:42 PM »
Agreed. The Adgharin Way must never be reborn.

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Re: Church of Sartan electing a new leader
« Reply #54: January 21, 2013, 03:50:11 PM »
In other news, after one day of preaching in the Cagilan Empire Selene has been ordered to leave upon pain of death. Her winning way just keeps on making her friends ;)