Exile should not block banishment

[fifo]

Currently, when a king decides to exile a character that character will be removed from the judge list of people he is able to ban (kick out/ask to leave).

Since exiling a player has a smaller effect than banishment it should still be possible for to ban an exiled character.

[Anaris]

I believe that this is an intended part of exile.  I'm not 100% certain, though, and it's at least worth discussing.

[Foundation]

I thought that exile would only be used on characters who cannot normally be banned, like royals, and that's why they're mutually exclusive.

[Peri]

Does Exiling work immediately or needs some time like a banishment?

In the first case, one would like to block the to-be-banned person from recruiting before bans goes into effect maybe.

[Foundation]

I do not believe Exiling is instant, in fact, it probably gives more time than banning, although this is just my speculation, I haven't looked at the code for this.  Not many things are instant, and for a reason too, since though we communicate through instant letters, things were most definitely not instant back then.

[Peri]

Makes sense.

Perhaps in addition to what the exiled noble won't be able to do, under the exile page, it could be useful to mention also what can't be done to the exiled noble in return. It is said it's a good remedy against nobles that can't be banished, but judge and ruler are often 2 different characters and it may very well happen that they think independently.

[fifo]

And in my case the king didn't know about this side effect.

[Anaris]

Exile is instant.

It prevents the exiled person from recruiting or using banks.

It is intended to be used against people who cannot be banned.

It is intended to be a battle of wills between the ruler and the exiled noble.

I don't know why you would use exile on someone you could ban in the first place.

[Foundation]

If your banker steals your monies, then you can exile him/her immediately and disallow bonds -> gold, right?

[Geronus]

Could happen if the judge is uncooperative, yet not the target. Though in that case, I don't imagine this would be an issue since the ban would not be forthcoming anyway.

[fifo]

I don't know why you would use exile on someone you could ban in the first place.

Maybe to not give him too much time taking money or recruiting, because you don't know when the judge will be in BM.

[Peri]

Maybe to not give him too much time taking money or recruiting, because you don't know when the judge will be in BM.

Or without going ooc, in order to prevent him from cashing his bonds and run for it before the ban goes into effect, since it needs a couple days.

[Anaris]

Um...the ban goes into effect immediately. That prevents banking and recruiting.

The ban does not make the noble a rogue until three turns have passed.

[Peri]

Um...the ban goes into effect immediately. That prevents banking and recruiting.

The ban does not make the noble a rogue until three turns have passed.

Uh. How many things one can learn on the forums!

[Bedwyr]

Uh. How many things one can learn on the forums!

Heh, yeah.  I didn't learn that bans took effect immediately for years...