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Re: Caelum
« Reply #15: January 08, 2013, 07:33:29 PM »
See, Sint was attempting to force their daimon-worshiping religion on the realm, its nobles demanding priests from other faiths be executed if they preach in our regions (and as we are a multi-religion realm, that wouldn't go over too well), they were attempting to force their laws on us, etc.  Indirik was one of those attempting to push for all of that, btw.
Oh baloney. You'll never find any message from Ralina even implying that such should be the case, let alone pushing for it to happen. Ralina was merely asserting the right for Hemaist priests to preach in regions belonging to a theocracy of Hemaism. Victus was freely preaching the Church of Humanity throughout all the lands that would be part of the new colony, and threatened Sint with diplomatic consequences if a priest of Hemaism preached in those same regions.

Only one fanatic said that foreign priests should be beheaded, and no one listened to him.

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When I said we would instead realign to Nothoi until we were ready, their leader threw a fit ("SINT IS THE FOUNDING FATHER!!!"  Misconstruing the entire treaty involved), as did Indirik who removed her region from the Duchy of Heen because "The treaty says nothing about joining Nothoi!"
If you are going to use quotes, please make sure you accurately, and completely quote what was said:
"I do not desire to join the realm of Nothoi. Such was never the plan for the new colony, or the regions that would be part of the new colony. I, and Watersdown, will stay in Sint until the new realm is formed. At that time, I will join the new realm as is my duty." And, as promised, Watersdown joined the realm as soon as it was founded.

I will admit that Cyprian knows little about the treaty, or what it says. As a new Pontifex who was largely uninvolved in pretty much anything to do with the realm, he is ignorant of quite a few things that previous rulers already knew.

Edit: Also, here is what Cyprian really said:
"Let's be frank. Whatever you will try to remove Sint infruence in south this is impossible, Lord Victus. We are the founding fathers of the new realm.
Let's calm ourself and speak."


Note the complete lack of ALLCAPS, and the absence of any exclamation points.

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...and yet the treaty specifically mentions the religious freedoms of our nobles.
Of course. And no one has yet attempted to force any specific religion on any noble.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2013, 07:48:08 PM by Indirik »
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #16: January 08, 2013, 10:49:45 PM »
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #17: January 08, 2013, 11:24:01 PM »
Apparently Nothoi has pledged some forces to help defend Caelum (anyone know how to pronounce that, by the way?) so we shouldn't be *too* bad off for now. Still, we're off to a wonderfully rocky start. Maybe within the next few weeks, we'll even have to spare gold to found our first army!
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #18: January 08, 2013, 11:42:12 PM »
Apparently Nothoi has pledged some forces to help defend Caelum (anyone know how to pronounce that, by the way?) so we shouldn't be *too* bad off for now. Still, we're off to a wonderfully rocky start. Maybe within the next few weeks, we'll even have to spare gold to found our first army!

Like one would pronounce Gaelic?
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #19: January 08, 2013, 11:59:15 PM »
That's what I figured. But you never know.
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #20: January 09, 2013, 12:16:57 AM »
[k'aɪlˌəm] or [k'aɪˌlʌm] would be my phonetically written guess.
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #21: January 09, 2013, 09:37:28 AM »
Apparently Nothoi has pledged some forces to help defend Caelum (anyone know how to pronounce that, by the way?) so we shouldn't be *too* bad off for now. Still, we're off to a wonderfully rocky start. Maybe within the next few weeks, we'll even have to spare gold to found our first army!

Nothoi?

They cant even take care of them selves!
A bit weird for them to go help Cealum if they depend on foreign military aid them selves...
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #22: January 09, 2013, 09:41:37 AM »

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Re: Caelum
« Reply #23: January 09, 2013, 10:14:24 AM »
Our very first RC:  Special Forces.  95 Training, 65 Weapons, 90 Armor, Range 2

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Re: Caelum
« Reply #24: January 09, 2013, 11:01:37 AM »
Such heavy SF.. With range.. But with lack population, no function now.
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #25: January 09, 2013, 11:02:49 AM »
True, but if our luck keeps up, we'll have RCs that no one can beat.  >.>

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Re: Caelum
« Reply #26: January 09, 2013, 11:05:59 AM »
Anyway, what diplomatic relation between fronen and caelum? Neutral ?
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #27: January 09, 2013, 11:23:03 AM »
That's what it is currently.  They've not contacted my character about anything.

If they want to, send Richard so the lazy bugger has to respond to Victus!

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Re: Caelum
« Reply #28: January 09, 2013, 12:53:40 PM »
Such poor range, though...
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Re: Caelum
« Reply #29: January 09, 2013, 01:35:28 PM »
Not to mention that high armour is detrimental for a ranged unit, since it increases the unit's price without adding much to it's effectiveness.