Caelum

[Geronus]

The Golden Feather hates the bloodspeakers since they are nasty people worshipping blood and commiting sacrifices (and most likely dancing with the blood in all horrid shapes and forms!).

Er, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you perhaps confusing the Bloodspeakers with the Blood Cult? Of course, you might be doing that on purpose...

[Eduardo Almighty]

On purpose? Obviously.

But I also never made any effort to demystify this view. They hate us, then we just "hate" then as well.

[Noldorin]

Interesting, after all you are very peaceful with Sint, a realm known for his attempts to not just make peace with the creatures, but also push them to destroy another realms. But who cares since you can hold strong allies!?  ;)

It's funny to see a biased view about the Bloodspeakers. Mostly everything is fruit of the common ignorance, but very funny. Then I will not try to change it. Instead, let's dance covered in blood!!! After all, the word "sacrifice" have just one meaning!

Sint was indeed a very strategic alliance rather than anything else, though we have become political and "personal" friends (or something like that)... obviously there is however no friendliness on the theological level.

As for ignorance, it is certainly needed to keep this going... OGF and Thalmarkin (or well, at least Fingolfin) has no plans at all to "get to know" or understand the bloodspeakers, simply because they are already considered evil and thats that. If we wanted to we could try to improve the relations, but that wouldnt be fun at all :p

Er, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you perhaps confusing the Bloodspeakers with the Blood Cult? Of course, you might be doing that on purpose...

Well, we dont confuse them per say, but lets say we bunch them up together and treat them more or less the same. It could be solved, but only if someone acctually wanted it, but again... wheres the fun in that!

[Eduardo Almighty]

I must say it was not intentional. When I created the religion I didn't knew the religious history of Beluaterra. I knew nothing about the Blood Cult and yet the names can be associated. I also knew nothing about the Old Gods, and yet we call our gods such way.

The collective spirit came into my head and did everything by itself, it seems. But we are unique. And the antagonism with the Golden Feather is fun enough to not think about immediate changes. They see us as bloody worshipers dancing with the dead skin of fresh corpses. We see them as... unh ... sissies!? No offense ;)

[Lorgan]

I've definitely never really bothered to find out what the Bloodspeakers are really about. Askarn at some point declared them evil - I think after some study but I could be wrong - a little propaganda did the rest and since then there's been quite some conflicts between Melhed and Thalmarkin that either involve the OGF and the Bloodspeakers directly or through the underlying animosity of characters. It's been really fun from where I'm sitting.

I also enjoy the varied stance that the OGF has with the Daishi. It may be sort of a leftover of a less doctrinal based religious game but pretty much the exact opposite has happened than what happened with the Bloodcult.
Daishi nobles are generally held in high regard by OGF's nobles I think. The fact that when Hetland fell, they swarmed to the OGF realms of OG and Thal, integrated very well and built good personal relationships helped as well of course. It's hard to hate a guy you like so much. :)
We're actually planning a near to complete overhaul of the Order of the Golden Feather at the moment...It'd be nice to get the two religions a little more in sync at the same time. Both can definitely use some fixin' up anyway. :)

[Chenier]

Sacrifices are fine, as long as it's followers of the Golden Feather or of Daishi that are on the altar.

[Eduardo Almighty]

We make no distinction in our sacrifices.  ;D

The Bloodspeakers have to grow, but I'm too much lazy to work on it how it deserve. Yeux never was my favorite char and it's hard to work in every continent with the same energy I work on the East Continent with my favorite char since I joined the game. Something I need to learn...

[Nosferatus]

We make no distinction in our sacrifices.  ;D

The Bloodspeakers have to grow, but I'm too much lazy to work on it how it deserve. Yeux never was my favorite char and it's hard to work in every continent with the same energy I work on the East Continent with my favorite char since I joined the game. Something I need to learn...

I noticed, Pierre seems to be the only one motivated to spread and also enhance the faith(it still lacks alot, even though the basic concepts are cool).

[Eduardo Almighty]

But Pierre is also responsible for much of our bad reputation. Every coin have two sides. :)
I need to find more time to work. A fact.

[Nosferatus]

But Pierre is also responsible for much of our bad reputation. Every coin have two sides. :)
I need to find more time to work. A fact.

What do you think i am trying to do?
Melhed has been very boring.
Beluaterra as a whole seems to freeze up a bit.
Time to shake things up starting at home, dont you think?

[Eduardo Almighty]

Yes, I agree. And that was not a complaint ;)

[Vellos]

Back on topic about Caelum:

Onamont and Edmundus have dueled. Onamont's won but failed to kill Edmundus. Even so, he considers the point of honor settled.

Do we have an ETA on getting a new ruler in place?

[Geronus]

The election should resolve tonight at the turn change. Quaestor Tsumiki Tenla seems to have the most public support (which is to say that she has public support), but it isn't easy to predict who will actually attract votes.

[Indirik]

Sounds like the next duel will be between Edmundus and Ralina, then. :)

I tend to agree that Tsumiki will win.

Also, Old Grehk is pushing strongly for Victus to be put back on the throne. Sint and Nothoi disagree.

* Indirik hopes that war will commence soon.

[Geronus]

There's a hell of a lot of variables dancing around when it comes to war. I don't know nearly enough about where most of them stand to have any predictions, but if I'm Old Grehk my first question is, "what would Thalmarkin do."