Caelum

[Solari]

There's a hell of a lot of variables dancing around when it comes to war. I don't know nearly enough about where most of them stand to have any predictions, but if I'm Old Grehk my first question is, "what would Thalmarkin do."

And the question that the Kin of Thalmar would first ask themselves is "how will Melhed use this opportunity to come after us?". That's pretty much the calculus for us. Nobody believes they're willing to abide by the present terms.

[Chaotrance13]

So I guess the next question (bar the possibility of a war to restore Victus) is who will be standing for Justicarius? Alaron certainly will.

[Vellos]

Whoever it is damn well better remove Onamont's ban.

Or else he will find you and kill you with his honor. Not because of his honor... no... he will kill you with his honor.

[Chaotrance13]

Whoever it is damn well better remove Onamont's ban.

Or else he will find you and kill you with his honor. Not because of his honor... no... he will kill you with his honor.

Keep your honour in your sheath, good sir. Or your pants. Or both. ;D

[Indirik]

Tsumiki comes from Riombara, as well. If Old Grehk tries to force her to step down, could Riombara become involved?

[Fleugs]

We advised Tsumiki to run. Well, I did. In case she were to be elected I'm sure Old Grehk would not think to impose their ruler on Caelum. After all, you know, Tsumiki is the Republic's Explorer!

[Naidraug]

We advised Tsumiki to run. Well, I did. In case she were to be elected I'm sure Old Grehk would not think to impose their ruler on Caelum. After all, you know, Tsumiki is the Republic's Explorer!

Yeah, you were not the only one...

Tsumiki might be a good ruler...I think OG would accept them on the position.

We now just need Thalmarkin to accept her, then OG would be alone on the "put Victus back" decision.

[Indirik]

If Sint and Nothoi accept her, I would imagine Thalmarkin won't care. They couldn't even find anyone willing to come and be a lord. And weren't they supposed to appoint the banker? (I don't remember.)

At that point, it will be Sint/Nothoi on one side against OG on the other. Then what will OG do? Attack and fight a war against Sint and Nothoi?

[Zakilevo]

If Sint and Nothoi accept her, I would imagine Thalmarkin won't care. They couldn't even find anyone willing to come and be a lord. And weren't they supposed to appoint the banker? (I don't remember.)

At that point, it will be Sint/Nothoi on one side against OG on the other. Then what will OG do? Attack and fight a war against Sint and Nothoi?

I think OG should fight them. I mean Sint has a miserable military and Nothoi isn't any better. Why not crush them both and build Caelum II and Caelum III as well?

[Indirik]

Sounds like fun to me. I think they should go for it.

[Vellos]

As long as they are polite, it does not matter to Onamont.

[Noldorin]

Thalmarkin was to appoint the General, as we did in Traemlin. The lords was indeed more tricky, especially since OG already stole the 2 ones who wanted to go.

It seems also that the rulers are coming to some agreement of how to accept Caelum. Indeed Thalmarkin does not really care all that much, but I have (in perhaps a bit too veiled words) shown that I did not wish OG to attack or anything similar. I thought myself quite explicit in my wording, but it doesnt seem to have gone all the way through.

As well, kinda funny for Fingolfin, elder of the OGF and uncle to the leader of the OGF, to be asked by Sint ruler if we have any problems with the herectics of the OGF... let the fun begin!

[Indirik]

Booyah! Caelum officially wins its freedom, and right of self-rule!

[Vellos]

Booyah! Caelum officially wins its freedom, and right of self-rule!

Onamont wants back in.

Let him in.

Or he will consider himself dishonored, and kill you all.

[Naidraug]

He´s going back in, just need to wait for the new judge.